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Have opportunity to snag one, have a 25 regular R with about 6 hours on it, love the bike, no issues, could only imagine the RWE is even better, I know all the shootouts say the price is but for a weekend warrior who hits the easy stuff (Dad with responsibilities) is it worth the upgrade (can afford no problem, bikes are paid off / for).
It really comes down to is staring at those coatings and truck parts worth it to you?
Ya I doubt I'd notice much difference on the track at my skill level and use. Probably not worth the $4k extra if I sold my bike tomorrow.
Even if you do notice a difference does it matter?, you sound like similar to me. It’s not the bike holding you back. It’s your own risk tolerance and skills.
Maybe snag one on the next purchase so you don’t take a bath twice price wise.
I would say hell no. If you got your current ECU mapped for ~$250 it would make it better than the WE alone. The WE has a better map that stock but still a bit conservative with porting to meet regulations. A re-mapped stock ecu would ble better than a WE map still. Also getting valving for your speed and springs for your weight on the stock suspension with let say all the bells and whistles (like spring perches or w/e) would be way better than investing in the WE.
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I bought one for my son and justified it by getting the wider rear wheel/tire and the hydraulic clutch. The power delivery might suit you well with no additional mods necessary. I was comfortable on the bike immediately and I am over 200#.
I would say mostly risk, just 8 years ago I was sending the massive blind doubles and step ups, just get out and spin wheels to keep sane and cause this hobby is addicting. But I agree.
Fair and my bike is basically new and suits my needs just fine.
I mean my R suits me just fine power wise and zero mods, just was curious if it was worth the extra dough for the old vet.
At 6 hours on your current bike, that you like, I don't think it makes sense to sell your bike at a loss to pick up a WE.
I believe Mr.usafwx that you have already decided to purchase the RWE, and I say more power to you. Pull the trigger, and have the bike you truly want ! Good luck either way, and enjoy .
The WE is for kids chasing the limited class. They built those bikes to legally bend the rules. For a vet guy, just mod your R the way you want it. Wouldnt make sense to sell and buy a WE
New bikes or added goodies don’t have to make sense from a logical standpoint. If affordability isn’t an issue and you want it for the extra goodies, go for it.
I dont really care about the goodies, always left my bikes stock besides grips and graphics when I would do the occasional C class race. But curious if I would enjoy the hydro clutch, ecu reprogram, suspension and tire/wheel upgrade.
Nah, the old new girl still sitting in the garage lol.
You can throw a 110/90-19 tire on your current wheel. If you really want the wider wheel find a 450 take off wheel. The hydro clutch is a bigger deal for off-road racing than mx.
I could be off base but I was under the impression that the narrower rear wheel wasn't a big deal? Thinking the narrower tire would do better in ruts?
Keefer says the narrow wheel is fine with a 110/90. Most reviews will tell you the 110 tire is better for 250s. The 100 is a hold over from the 125. It also cuts the weight some which shows up on the spec sheet.
There’s quite a few test on it. They all Loved the bike it’s peppy quick to get going low end to mid. They all said it’s worth it. It sounds better too for a 4-st. GT ax 150 per class 2 classes 2 nights 10 rounds= 6 k . I think it would be a Great AX bike due to the quickness . Do AX then sell it
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I had a 2019 kx450 that I put 135hrs on. Sold that and purchased a brand new WE that currently has 30hrs on it. It's an amazing bike that handles great. I do not regret paying the extra money for the WE. Just my 2 cents.
At my level I don’t notice, all the reviewers do and make point in videos. Idk
The reviewers are paid to sell products. They make a big deal about 1mm different sized linkage bolts. Like that does any single thing to anyone.
Do you think a really good test rider could possibly feel the linkage free up a bit with that 1mm larger bolt, it would have a little more surface area for grease?
The “best” test riders in the industry couldn’t feel 4 seconds per lap difference between 250,350 and 450 back to back on their home track. I’m POSITIVE they can’t feel a 1mm difference on a linkage bolt.
There are people that notice a difference from a change that from an engineering standpoint, should make zero difference. Whether that’s placebo or not, who knows.
Similar to how a change in power curve on a dyno may not actually be different/beneficial on the track
4 seconds per lap is MASSIVE and they couldn’t feel it, but yeah sure, “trust me bro the washer on the linkage bolt with white grease totally frees up the rear end bro.”
Did that actually happen? This is different since I’m on the same bike during a race, but when lap times are 9-12minutes long, I have a good idea which of my laps was the fastest and slowest before looking at timing, and the variance between times is something like 5-10 seconds typically
Mxa 250 v 350 v 450 test. Mosiman swore before and after he was best on 450. He was slowest on the 450. Fastest on 350 then 250 then 450.
He said he’s a 450 rider. Prefers 450s. Spends most of his time on 450s going to be fastest on the 450. Hopes to be close to his speed on the others curious how far off he’ll be.
And then hes slowest on it.
But yeah trust me bro, the smaller hardware makes a HUGE difference, spend the $400 on the race cups it’s TOTALLY worth it. Lmao.
Ahh i vaguely remember that.
Btw you are literally pulling the “trust me bro” whether you realize it or not lol. Either way it doesn’t matter to me. If a bike manufacturer wants to spend the money in labor, materials, and R&D to make something 1mm smaller, I can live with that.
By pointing out that the Mx testing media isn’t the best judge on products because they have a monetary incentive to promote products and maybe aren’t the most trust worthy based on not even being able to tell a 4 second per lap difference let alone TINY changes like a rear rim width let alone 100-200cc different engines…?
Trust me I get it, but I still read/watch their testing content. When a known Yamaha biased person says another bike does something better, I believe it lol
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