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i dont understand the penalty for jumping while flag is out .the ama rulebook says if no advantage gained its 5 points and 2 spots and if advantage gained its position gained plus 2 spots and 5 points ..I dont believe that was the case yesterday .but then again it is the AMA and they are good at not going by their own rule book at times .
AI?
Lol...I don't play.
Deegan jumped also....
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Go watch the Weege post race show the video clearly shows who jumped and who didn’t….it wasn’t the jump where you saw the flag it was the jump after the right turn.
Kitchen passed Austin with the Red Cross flag visibly out in the corner before the jump!! I’m not saying he wouldn’t have got him eventually anyway because he probably would have. But he did pass him with the Red Cross flag out.
I could clearly see and watched it from my pit side seat and they had almost 2 minutes to prepare before the riders came back to them. They weren’t throwing it when the leaders passed going the opposite direction but they waited till the riders were a few seconds from from jumping a blind jump with the flagger on it. I went back and watched the replay and didn't see anyone jump unless they were farther back than what the camera was following.
Flame away but IMO a NEW flag color needs to be introduced so the flaggers can wave it in several places before getting to the Red Cross flagger to warn the riders that a red cross flag coming.
Unlike amateur racing A yellow flag is useless to the pro’s as they are basically told to ignore it.
Speaking of yellow flag did they really have to be waving it through an entire section of 2 or 3 turns before the foam block that had tumbled on the track that they needed to move?
Please post the link to it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U8K2FqT_TwI
Starts about the 3:50 mark clearly shows Hammaker jumping and everyone else rolling including Deegan….not sure who the Kawi guy was that crashed at the end of the footage though.
I did not hear what the penalties were so did a quick search. Is the answer not accurate? Do the penalties not lne up with what the rule book says?
In the video The flagger was still waving the yellow flag when Hammaker was approaching him and just dropped it to switch to the Red Cross when Hammaker passed him. Right after that Davies in 2nd had to look back at the flagger to see it.
IMO the ruling should be overturned.
Couldn’t get a clear shot of the PC Kaw rider falling in a very strange place but he must have been running in the top 5-10
The screenshot you are showing is the wrong jump it was the next one after the right turn you can actually see the downed rider in the back ground that caused the flag.
Marchbanks. The downed rider was Marchbanks.
Go watch it again.
The flagger didn’t start waving the Red Cross flag till Hammaker was next to him. EVERY raider is looking at the turn they are rapidly approaching and braking for then not sideways to look at the flagger that was waving the yellow flag while he was airborne.
The 2nd red flagger hadn’t started waving it on the face of the jump yet.
The red lights were flashing
GTFO with your AI posting bullshit
So just incase the flaggers aren’t waving the flag yet (because they weren’t) they have some red lights out on the edge of the track. Who flips the switch and when did they do it? When did they start doing this?
Racers are all looking ahead at the next jump and beyond not at sides.
While adding Red lights is a really good thing maybe a few more like in the turn before the face of the jump would be a good idea.
Why? I use it as a search engine. Please explain why it’s bullshit? Is it not accurate information?
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It’s hard to tell when the flagger started waving the Red Cross but he was waving both that and the yellow and was setting down the yellow as Hammaker passed but the lights have been on the jump faces for a few years now and they were clearly visible for Hammaker.
In the weege show clip mike peletier (sp) stated the jumping while the red lights were flashing not red cross flag, so my understanding is that the penalties were not incurred by the jump to where the flagger is standing with the flag, there evidently were flashing red lights on the edge of the following jump that you can’t see in the video after the right turn and that is where the penalties occurred. So yes as the rider exits the corner and is looking up the track to the next obstacle the lights should be clearly in view and that’s why they were penalized and not baby deegs because he didn’t jump that jump with the lights.
edit: just happened to watch Deanos video from friday and im pretty sure the below picture captures the light towers that would have been flashing following the flagger … not defending the AMA or the ruling but after being confused by the broadcast i believe that is what happened.
It's Drew Adams #98 that crashes in the video.
This is so wrong. Please don't pos't AI
Did Weege have anything to say about Deegs riding at speed outside the track markers again?
The first answer on Search engines are A.I. The end is happening.
Not sure why some of you are so butthurt with Kyle. Nothing wrong about what he posted. From Racer X:
What you fail to realize is that he got the yellow flag as he landed from the jump before, then as he was already under acceleration the lights came on.
Second, why was there not a flagger on the take off of that jump, but one on the take off and the landing of the previous double. The penalty is under the guise of "Rider safety" but yet no flaggers where its most needed?!
The AMA needs to get their shit together, period.
Yeah, without rewatching I thought it was odd the Red Cross flag was after the jump, in the landing of the double. Yellow was before I thought. So not sure how you approach that, but I also forgot they have the lights too, but with the ruts riders may not even be looking at the side of take off.
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