'Liberation Day' tariff announcements

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Republican party doesn't know what an American car looks like. Or are they saying America is Russia now?

I like that car. Thing is probably a little beast. Maybe even a 4cyl diesel?  I wish they made actual cars like that, made out of real metal, and not choked up with a bunch of shit electronics here in America 

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Appeals court might make this entire thread moot. At least i hope so.

This is assuming Donfather will play by the rules, not bend them.

@soggy Great clip haha. Weak dollar is a great time to invest! The problem is the majority of Americans couldn't come up with $500 right now if they had an emergency come up, let alone cash to invest somewhere.The Meidastouch 'Alien Super Show' did a great interview with my sister. She's been on major networks a bunch but the one with these guys was my favorite thus far. 

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Appeals court might make this entire thread moot. At least i hope so.

Don't bet on it, he can always find another law to justify the tariffs.

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Clearly English is not your first language.

Well,  I'll explain it so even you can understand it.

Luke

Yes, please explain how an agreement for a framework, is a trade agreement?

I can explain that.

Here's the final paragraph on the 5th and final page of the (so called) US/UK trade 'agreement'.

 

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early wrote:

Republican party doesn't know what an American car looks like. Or are they saying America is Russia now?

I like that car. Thing is probably a little beast. Maybe even a 4cyl diesel?  I wish they made actual cars like that, made out of...

I like that car. Thing is probably a little beast. Maybe even a 4cyl diesel?  I wish they made actual cars like that, made out of real metal, and not choked up with a bunch of shit electronics here in America 

It wasn’t…

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early wrote:

Republican party doesn't know what an American car looks like. Or are they saying America is Russia now?

I like that car. Thing is probably a little beast. Maybe even a 4cyl diesel?  I wish they made actual cars like that, made out of...

I like that car. Thing is probably a little beast. Maybe even a 4cyl diesel?  I wish they made actual cars like that, made out of real metal, and not choked up with a bunch of shit electronics here in America 

ahahahaha. wow. 

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early wrote:

Republican party doesn't know what an American car looks like. Or are they saying America is Russia now?

I like that car. Thing is probably a little beast. Maybe even a 4cyl diesel?  I wish they made actual cars like that, made out of...

I like that car. Thing is probably a little beast. Maybe even a 4cyl diesel?  I wish they made actual cars like that, made out of real metal, and not choked up with a bunch of shit electronics here in America 

It wasn’t…

They made a shitty Fiat-knock-off 🤣

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early wrote:

Republican party doesn't know what an American car looks like. Or are they saying America is Russia now?

I like that car. Thing is probably a little beast. Maybe even a 4cyl diesel?  I wish they made actual cars like that, made out of...

I like that car. Thing is probably a little beast. Maybe even a 4cyl diesel?  I wish they made actual cars like that, made out of real metal, and not choked up with a bunch of shit electronics here in America 

It wasn’t…

Enjoyed that! Thanks!😂😂😂

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8/3/2025 8:49pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2025 8:51pm

@burn1986 Don't be a pot filling this thread with kettles. There are plenty of dumb folks on both sides of this divide - America is trying to remove the well functioning brain from the individual, as someone that questions the system and has intelligence is a threat. Just shut up and work hard! Ironically, it takes hard work (and experiences) to become intelligent.

We are patiently waiting for Cool Luke to lay it out for us like we're 7th graders so we can see what we're missing. He's the only Trump fan that posts intellectually stimulating content here that I've seen thus far. He provides information and links that suggest Trump's strategies are effective.

Memes are fun, and there is a thread for that. We can start another thread with interviews from folks on both sides of the Divided States of America that make you question the state of our country and the folks that call it home.

A few pages back you were asking some good questions. But it appears your mind isn't as open as I originally thought. All good though, I still respect you and your opinion.

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8/3/2025 8:53pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2025 9:00pm
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@burn1986 Don't be a pot filling this thread with kettles. There are plenty of dumb folks on both sides of this divide - America is trying...

@burn1986 Don't be a pot filling this thread with kettles. There are plenty of dumb folks on both sides of this divide - America is trying to remove the well functioning brain from the individual, as someone that questions the system and has intelligence is a threat. Just shut up and work hard! Ironically, it takes hard work (and experiences) to become intelligent.

We are patiently waiting for Cool Luke to lay it out for us like we're 7th graders so we can see what we're missing. He's the only Trump fan that posts intellectually stimulating content here that I've seen thus far. He provides information and links that suggest Trump's strategies are effective.

Memes are fun, and there is a thread for that. We can start another thread with interviews from folks on both sides of the Divided States of America that make you question the state of our country and the folks that call it home.

A few pages back you were asking some good questions. But it appears your mind isn't as open as I originally thought. All good though, I still respect you and your opinion.

Thanks Dad. Btw I’ll post whatever I want. 

Well constructed reply btw 👍

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The LA Protestor clip you posted is from Denver, Colorado.

You can post whatever you want. Unless it's philosophical religious shit, that seems to get purged here for some reason. I found the back and forth quite interesting on that.

 

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8/3/2025 9:03pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2025 9:03pm

The IG post isn't wrong though. Life is gonna get harder for folks here, stupid ones included. It already has been getting harder, and we are all becoming more stupid.

Who wins?

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8/3/2025 9:07pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2025 9:31pm
T-MAC wrote:
The LA Protestor clip you posted is from Denver, Colorado.You can post whatever you want. Unless it's philosophical religious shit, that seems to get purged here...

The LA Protestor clip you posted is from Denver, Colorado.

You can post whatever you want. Unless it's philosophical religious shit, that seems to get purged here for some reason. I found the back and forth quite interesting on that.

 

So what? Is there anything new going on other than “Trump’s ruining the wonderful country that Biden and Dems gave him! That F-in Trump F-in Trump F-in Trump!” 

They don’t have any other ideas or comments about policy, and everyone knows the dumb-ss Dems (and some Reps) don’t have a f-ckin clue about sh-t. You’ve got all stupid posters who go to nth degree with charts and analysis just to say “Well, this chart shows that Trump used a semicolon on this one Presidential Order. OMG he’s slipping. See See! He’s a liar!!”

The point of that Instagram post is Trump haters don’t have a clue why they hate him. They just do. And yet, everyone says, “Oh don’t be a sour puss burn, let’s explore how much we hate Trump. Be nice now or we’ll gripe at you.”

Post up some f-ckin alternatives then, all you super smart know-it-alls, if he’s doin such a f-ckin bad job. 

 

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T-MAC wrote:
The LA Protestor clip you posted is from Denver, Colorado.You can post whatever you want. Unless it's philosophical religious shit, that seems to get purged here...

The LA Protestor clip you posted is from Denver, Colorado.

You can post whatever you want. Unless it's philosophical religious shit, that seems to get purged here for some reason. I found the back and forth quite interesting on that.

 

burn1986 wrote:
So what? Is there anything new going on other than “Trump’s ruining the wonderful country that Biden and Dems gave him! That F-in Trump F-in Trump...

So what? Is there anything new going on other than “Trump’s ruining the wonderful country that Biden and Dems gave him! That F-in Trump F-in Trump F-in Trump!” 

They don’t have any other ideas or comments about policy, and everyone knows the dumb-ss Dems (and some Reps) don’t have a f-ckin clue about sh-t. You’ve got all stupid posters who go to nth degree with charts and analysis just to say “Well, this chart shows that Trump used a semicolon on this one Presidential Order. OMG he’s slipping. See See! He’s a liar!!”

The point of that Instagram post is Trump haters don’t have a clue why they hate him. They just do. And yet, everyone says, “Oh don’t be a sour puss burn, let’s explore how much we hate Trump. Be nice now or we’ll gripe at you.”

Post up some f-ckin alternatives then, all you super smart know-it-alls, if he’s doin such a f-ckin bad job. 

 

It sounds like you are having a bad day, do you need a hug?

PS: Sorry I can't do it, you're not my type.

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I kind of agree with you though. Dems should focus more on policy than finger pointing. The Donfather doesn't really like bipartisan governmental activities though, that is incredibly clear. So to that point, I understand why the Democrats are just trying to educate people on the gravity of some of the things we're dealing with. Taking a page out of Donny's book, stoke emotion to promote action.

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8/3/2025 9:25pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2025 9:28pm
T-MAC wrote:
I kind of agree with you though. Dems should focus more on policy than finger pointing. The Donfather doesn't really like bipartisan governmental activities though, that...

I kind of agree with you though. Dems should focus more on policy than finger pointing. The Donfather doesn't really like bipartisan governmental activities though, that is incredibly clear. So to that point, I understand why the Democrats are just trying to educate people on the gravity of some of the things we're dealing with. Taking a page out of Donny's book, stoke emotion to promote action.

Because they don’t have an f-in clue about anything other than new and better Trump hate. There is no one who can do what Trump is doing. The media (controlled by super wealthy libs) push nothing but stupid lies. And it’s all 100% anti Trump. Name me one person, who has come on that has said “This is what Trump should’ve done instead of tariffs.” Or “this is what Trump should have done with Russia and Ukraine.” On and on and on - nothing but “Let’s put all our money, resources, criminal minds, smartest schemes for one goal - undermine, discredit, and do everything within our power to Destroy Trump!”

And you got these bozos that follow that crap like gospel. 
 

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8/3/2025 9:35pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2025 9:36pm

Well, as much as many here hate Joe Biden, he did generally leave the house better than he found it (cognitive decline be damned), and there is a lot of data to back that up. Perhaps we had too many people crossing the border illegally, but that is not, and was not our biggest issue. Far from it, but it got people all riled up.

Donnys tarriff strategy has proven ineffective thus far, it has cost Americans and American companies a lot of money, while a lot of the world is focusing on de-risking from America as best they can (understandably so). For the record I liked some of his tariff approach from his previous term, he's just a lot more unhinged this time around.

Many of his tarrif talks have been with other leaders tip toeing around Donny to appease him and make him feel like he's gotten a win. As we're learning with China, it isn't that easy to break up with another country when your inner-workings are so intertwined.

Ultimately he's brought on unnecessary pain, but our Southern border has been cleaned up at least.

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T-MAC wrote:
Well, as much as many here hate Joe Biden, he did generally leave the house better than he found it (cognitive decline be damned)...

Well, as much as many here hate Joe Biden, he did generally leave the house better than he found it (cognitive decline be damned), and there is a lot of data to back that up. Perhaps we had too many people crossing the border illegally, but that is not, and was not our biggest issue. Far from it, but it got people all riled up.

Donnys tarriff strategy has proven ineffective thus far, it has cost Americans and American companies a lot of money, while a lot of the world is focusing on de-risking from America as best they can (understandably so). For the record I liked some of his tariff approach from his previous term, he's just a lot more unhinged this time around.

Many of his tarrif talks have been with other leaders tip toeing around Donny to appease him and make him feel like he's gotten a win. As we're learning with China, it isn't that easy to break up with another country when your inner-workings are so intertwined.

Ultimately he's brought on unnecessary pain, but our Southern border has been cleaned up at least.

Are you with me in boycotting Chinese food? We can show China "what's up!"

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8/3/2025 9:45pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2025 9:50pm
T-MAC wrote:
Well, as much as many here hate Joe Biden, he did generally leave the house better than he found it (cognitive decline be damned)...

Well, as much as many here hate Joe Biden, he did generally leave the house better than he found it (cognitive decline be damned), and there is a lot of data to back that up. Perhaps we had too many people crossing the border illegally, but that is not, and was not our biggest issue. Far from it, but it got people all riled up.

Donnys tarriff strategy has proven ineffective thus far, it has cost Americans and American companies a lot of money, while a lot of the world is focusing on de-risking from America as best they can (understandably so). For the record I liked some of his tariff approach from his previous term, he's just a lot more unhinged this time around.

Many of his tarrif talks have been with other leaders tip toeing around Donny to appease him and make him feel like he's gotten a win. As we're learning with China, it isn't that easy to break up with another country when your inner-workings are so intertwined.

Ultimately he's brought on unnecessary pain, but our Southern border has been cleaned up at least.

You don’t have a clue about what you’re talking the about. Tell me what impact 8 million illegals coming across is doing or will do to our economy 4-6 years down the road.

So we should’ve done nothing and just cruise huh? “Biden gave us everything. Why are we so rilled up?” Haha, oh man. 
 

What will be the impact of the tariffs 4-6 years down the road? Show me the charts, graphs, and schematics. Oh wait, we only have the here and now. This should be immediate change right? Instant! 😳
 

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burn1986 wrote:
You don’t have a clue about what you’re talking the about. Tell me what impact 8 million illegals coming across is doing or will do to...

You don’t have a clue about what you’re talking the about. Tell me what impact 8 million illegals coming across is doing or will do to our economy 4-6 years down the road.

So we should’ve done nothing and just cruise huh? “Biden gave us everything. Why are we so rilled up?” Haha, oh man. 
 

What will be the impact of the tariffs 4-6 years down the road? Show me the charts, graphs, and schematics. Oh wait, we only have the here and now. This should be immediate change right? Instant! 😳
 

This is not what I am saying. I said we had an issue at the border. I don't necessarily agree with how Trump tackled it. Obama was actually a lot more effective at removing people that entered illegally, without the theatrics.

At a quick glance, in 2022 for example, illegal workers contributed $97B to federal, state, and local taxes ($60B going to the Fed).

They aren't even here legally and choose to pay taxes. I wish billionaires here had the same integrity...

DOGE didn't find all that much, and will probably cost us in the long run.

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You don’t have a clue about what you’re talking the about. Tell me what impact 8 million illegals coming across is doing or will do to...

You don’t have a clue about what you’re talking the about. Tell me what impact 8 million illegals coming across is doing or will do to our economy 4-6 years down the road.

So we should’ve done nothing and just cruise huh? “Biden gave us everything. Why are we so rilled up?” Haha, oh man. 
 

What will be the impact of the tariffs 4-6 years down the road? Show me the charts, graphs, and schematics. Oh wait, we only have the here and now. This should be immediate change right? Instant! 😳
 

T-MAC wrote:
This is not what I am saying. I said we had an issue at the border. I don't necessarily agree with how Trump tackled it. Obama...

This is not what I am saying. I said we had an issue at the border. I don't necessarily agree with how Trump tackled it. Obama was actually a lot more effective at removing people that entered illegally, without the theatrics.

At a quick glance, in 2022 for example, illegal workers contributed $97B to federal, state, and local taxes ($60B going to the Fed).

They aren't even here legally and choose to pay taxes. I wish billionaires here had the same integrity...

DOGE didn't find all that much, and will probably cost us in the long run.

DOGE was political theater, it chose to focus on removing WOKE, not on improving government efficiency, defunding the IRS doesn't not help government revenue.

Government expenditure will no be reduced without compromise from both sides of politics in Congress and the Senate.

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8/3/2025 11:00pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2025 11:05pm
DOGE was political theater, it chose to focus on removing WOKE, not on improving government efficiency, defunding the IRS doesn't not help government revenue.Government expenditure will...

DOGE was political theater, it chose to focus on removing WOKE, not on improving government efficiency, defunding the IRS doesn't not help government revenue.

Government expenditure will no be reduced without compromise from both sides of politics in Congress and the Senate.

You’re right DOGE created more anger than any other action Trump could have taken, since he took money directly out of (95% Dems) politicians pockets. How do you justify paying 200 yo people? 

So how do you think would been a better way for Trump/DOGE to handle those fraudulent accounts? Or should he have been concerned about sex changes in Guatemala? What would have been your advice to him about these DOGE accounts? 

Also, what would be your advice now to Americans moving forward in regard to tariffs? You are 100% anti-Trump and anti-America, so what should average Americans do? Refund all the bogus DOGE accounts? Go get all the illegals and ship them to AU? Begin paying back all the 150yo people?

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8/3/2025 11:09pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2025 11:24pm
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This is not what I am saying. I said we had an issue at the border. I don't necessarily agree with how Trump tackled it. Obama...

This is not what I am saying. I said we had an issue at the border. I don't necessarily agree with how Trump tackled it. Obama was actually a lot more effective at removing people that entered illegally, without the theatrics.

At a quick glance, in 2022 for example, illegal workers contributed $97B to federal, state, and local taxes ($60B going to the Fed).

They aren't even here legally and choose to pay taxes. I wish billionaires here had the same integrity...

DOGE didn't find all that much, and will probably cost us in the long run.

You know Obama just rode on the policies Bush had in place. I think Obama did try to come up with a way for illegals to get work authorization while they waited for their hearing. But he allowed all Asylum seekers to just come in hearing or not. This created a huge backlog. But he did try to get them on the radar, but none of them accepted DACA, since they were making too much without it (working under the table). 

Illegals paying income tax? Show me one verified illegal alien who laid income tax.i guess we should have all of Mexico come to the US to shop so they can contribute to the sales tax?! WTF? How does that work? DOGE didn’t find that much? How many SS checks were being sent out to people above 150?! Not to mention how many stupid a-s Million or Billion dollar programs for sex change bullsh-t?! 

What was the military doing under Biden? Why did he just let Russia attack Ukraine? Were you living under a rock? Just because you don’t hear something on CNN or Fox doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. 

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Kennedy put a man on the moon, Obama put a man in the woman’s bathroom!

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DOGE was political theater, it chose to focus on removing WOKE, not on improving government efficiency, defunding the IRS doesn't not help government revenue.Government expenditure will...

DOGE was political theater, it chose to focus on removing WOKE, not on improving government efficiency, defunding the IRS doesn't not help government revenue.

Government expenditure will no be reduced without compromise from both sides of politics in Congress and the Senate.

burn1986 wrote:
You’re right DOGE created more anger than any other action Trump could have taken, since he took money directly out of (95% Dems) politicians pockets. How...

You’re right DOGE created more anger than any other action Trump could have taken, since he took money directly out of (95% Dems) politicians pockets. How do you justify paying 200 yo people? 

So how do you think would been a better way for Trump/DOGE to handle those fraudulent accounts? Or should he have been concerned about sex changes in Guatemala? What would have been your advice to him about these DOGE accounts? 

Also, what would be your advice now to Americans moving forward in regard to tariffs? You are 100% anti-Trump and anti-America, so what should average Americans do? Refund all the bogus DOGE accounts? Go get all the illegals and ship them to AU? Begin paying back all the 150yo people?

Who claimed 200 year old people were being paid?

Payments were sent to 266 beneficiaries above the age of 112...

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/02/18/musk-150-year-old-social-security/

that sounds like massive fraud, surely stopping those payments saved the promised $2 trillion dollars in government expenditure.

DOGE was ineffective, it didn't and couldn't address the government's expenditure issues, they need to be resolved by your elected officials, but both sides are too busy feathering their nests, self interest rules.

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8/4/2025 3:32am Edited Date/Time 8/4/2025 3:33am

Kennedy put a man on the moon, Obama put a man in the woman’s bathroom!

And we put a convicted rapist in the Whitehouse...See E. Jean Carroll case..

Also curious, what contribution do you actually think a President makes towards getting a man on the moon?

What amazing engineering/scientific feats are we crediting Donny with? Defunding this arena?

Donny is looking to rename the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts after himself... Way to respect Kennedy eh?  Additionally, he managed to release files related to his assassination, yet hasn't kept his word on the Epstein Files, which he vehemently ran on.

Guy is a class act for sure.

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The LA Protestor clip you posted is from Denver, Colorado.You can post whatever you want. Unless it's philosophical religious shit, that seems to get purged here...

The LA Protestor clip you posted is from Denver, Colorado.

You can post whatever you want. Unless it's philosophical religious shit, that seems to get purged here for some reason. I found the back and forth quite interesting on that.

 

Yea I’m still disappointed that happened. Maybe it was Coolhandluke since he is the resident tattletale? Even if it was I’m surprised a moderator considered the complaint legitimate as we were mostly talking about religion in a historical context. 

Either way it sucks, because after 60 pages of back and forth bullshit, name calling and finger pointing, we were having a thoughtful and productive discussion that was approaching the root causes of these issues we all complain about. 
If we can’t have a civilized conversation about morals and values in regards to our society, then we have no hope whatsoever. Whoever deleted those posts or complained about them is a fucking loser and I hope you’re reading this. 

If it was someone complaining to a moderator then you are a massive pussy and probably mentally deficient. If a moderator actually did go through those posts and deleted them, I think at the very least we should have been given an explanation and an opportunity to defend because they clearly misunderstood the context. 

Shameful behavior and exactly the type that has western civilization in the disgraceful position it is in now. 

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8/4/2025 6:48am Edited Date/Time 8/4/2025 7:42am

Kennedy put a man on the moon, Obama put a man in the woman’s bathroom!

T-MAC wrote:
And we put a convicted rapist in the Whitehouse...See E. Jean Carroll case..Also curious, what contribution do you actually think a President makes towards...

And we put a convicted rapist in the Whitehouse...See E. Jean Carroll case..

Also curious, what contribution do you actually think a President makes towards getting a man on the moon?

What amazing engineering/scientific feats are we crediting Donny with? Defunding this arena?

Donny is looking to rename the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts after himself... Way to respect Kennedy eh?  Additionally, he managed to release files related to his assassination, yet hasn't kept his word on the Epstein Files, which he vehemently ran on.

Guy is a class act for sure.

To begin, obviously I was making a little funny against Obama, a guy that was on one of my crews several years back used to say it …. He hated Obama .It  used to make me laugh, that and he was always bitching  about his East Indian mother inlaw whose name was WeeDad. So every now and then I’d ask him “how’s  WeeeeeeeeeeDad do’n?” And he’d go off for 15 minutes about her. 😂 Anyway here’s what I found to answer your question about “what contribution I think a president makes to get a man on the moon?” This is what I found…….IMG 6077 4.jpeg?VersionId=8sqDIJ3urSdhcDiVzQRX3u3gX3yItcKIMG 6078 5.jpeg?VersionId=7yW1Y0AZdpoE6TgY88p

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To begin, obviously I was making a little funny against Obama, a guy that was on one of my crews several years back used to say...

To begin, obviously I was making a little funny against Obama, a guy that was on one of my crews several years back used to say it …. He hated Obama .It  used to make me laugh, that and he was always bitching  about his East Indian mother inlaw whose name was WeeDad. So every now and then I’d ask him “how’s  WeeeeeeeeeeDad do’n?” And he’d go off for 15 minutes about her. 😂 Anyway here’s what I found to answer your question about “what contribution I think a president makes to get a man on the moon?” This is what I found…….IMG 6077 4.jpeg?VersionId=8sqDIJ3urSdhcDiVzQRX3u3gX3yItcKIMG 6078 5.jpeg?VersionId=7yW1Y0AZdpoE6TgY88p

I hear ya, I use the phrase "Thanks Obama" a lot in my life haha.

Good summary of Kennedy's push for getting a man on the moon. And an excellent representation of true leadership at the top step. Investing in meaningful programs, rallying and uniting both congress and the American people around a powerful initiative. A stark contrast to what we see today, I reckon.

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To begin, obviously I was making a little funny against Obama, a guy that was on one of my crews several years back used to say...

To begin, obviously I was making a little funny against Obama, a guy that was on one of my crews several years back used to say it …. He hated Obama .It  used to make me laugh, that and he was always bitching  about his East Indian mother inlaw whose name was WeeDad. So every now and then I’d ask him “how’s  WeeeeeeeeeeDad do’n?” And he’d go off for 15 minutes about her. 😂 Anyway here’s what I found to answer your question about “what contribution I think a president makes to get a man on the moon?” This is what I found…….IMG 6077 4.jpeg?VersionId=8sqDIJ3urSdhcDiVzQRX3u3gX3yItcKIMG 6078 5.jpeg?VersionId=7yW1Y0AZdpoE6TgY88p

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I hear ya, I use the phrase "Thanks Obama" a lot in my life haha.Good summary of Kennedy's push for getting a man on the moon...

I hear ya, I use the phrase "Thanks Obama" a lot in my life haha.

Good summary of Kennedy's push for getting a man on the moon. And an excellent representation of true leadership at the top step. Investing in meaningful programs, rallying and uniting both congress and the American people around a powerful initiative. A stark contrast to what we see today, I reckon.

Yes , I have to agree that there is a stark contrast from JFK’s time and now . Back then the media used to somewhat coddle/protect/ shield the president and both parties worked together much better than we see today…. There was a respect for the office itself that we just don’t see these days. I believe all of that went out the window for the most part after Regans second term or maybe  Herbert Walker Bush’s one term. Seems like every since then things have been really ugly and all that respect for the office itself has gone out the window. We are definitely living in critical times where the disrespect has spilled out into the streets and people are being beaten and killed over their political beliefs. It’s actually shocking what America has become in this regard.

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