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Just something to go do with my family and to be able to have had the opportunity to go. I've pretty well given up try some of these big vet races instead. Still think it's a load of crap though just call them what they are vet pro classes because it's the reality.
Why are you chasing fake glory at our age?
If you win by exclusion is it a win?
At our age it is not so much winning as feeling blessed that we are still able to compete at such a high athletic level.
Hopefully they trim this tree this evening.
Well hell, i'm hooked. It's not chasing the glory racing the vet classes as an actual vet racer. But that can't be said for those pros that go back to the ranch in a vet class.
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Lol, Shorty won by what 30 seconds? Tell me who he was competing with while riding by himself. Now 2nd and 3rd was a great battle. 25+ was a great race.
As for entertainment i prefer watching good riders. Be intresting to have a vet pro series, put my money on AC 222, as he he puts every other vet to shame.
Look at you stirrin the pot!
I listened at work all day and didnt say nothin on here and seen i already got called out lol.. Haas on a pro build battling with wiemer in +25 but smoking +30 sPoRtSmAn.. too funny... Once a pro, always a pro when it comes to skills. Was happy to be watching and intend on giving it my best shot next year as i turn 40 soon.
My cousin Nolan Ford finished 4th today in Supermini 12-15. He’s a KTM Orange Brigade rider. He finished 1st the last 2 years in the 85 class. It’s his first year on Superminis
Does anyone know what happened to Logan Best? He was a great mini rider.
Would Tim consider this a safety concern?
He quit racing. Think he does like crypto currency stuff now.
Edit - He is a brand ambassador for Zero race wear
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When I went to Loretta’s as a kid in the late 90’s to watch a family friend race 40+, they had an ‘Industry Race’. All of the retired pros at the Ranch & even a few former pros turned industry reps raced a special class just for them. The fences were PACKED….
I’d love nothing more than to see a ‘Vet Pro’ class for the fast guys to duke it out. But even as a 40+ C rider who finished 19th at his Regional this year, it wasn’t bad lining up with Reed & getting lapped by him.
The reality is, even in a Sportsman class like 45+ where those guys aren’t allowed, I’m no more likely to qualify than when they ARE on the gate. Self reflection is a b*#%h…
No need to worry, The Cotter Administration has full time legal staff on hand to rectify any complaints........ I'd be worried though if I admitted to taking/posting that clip. You could be banned for life......
If Steve and Dark can give it a go and almost make it, many could try. Most of these pros aren’t going to be in your regional so don’t use it as an excuse. My excuse is I’m too cheap and can’t justify the expense, not that I thing the deck is too stacked.
lol, and the flagger waving away where no one can see him. Unacceptable for a national event.
Hey man, that guy is working hard for his $12 an hour...
I’m not sure that guy hit a branch. Looked more like he swiped the whole trunk of the tree.
He's probably not even being paid. His payment is to be blessed that he gets to stand on that hallowed piece of earth in the heat and not get charged an admission wrist band for the week.
12 bucks???? Damn...... I was wrong. They must have gotten a hell of a raise. Pathetically sad, considering the haul that outfit rakes in. Just about as bad as taking your family to a place like Six Flags, and seeing dudes on bail repairing the 150 ft tall roller coaster your entire family is strapped into...... just before take off.
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Hey now… he gets free camping & a bag lunch, too. But EVERYONE pays the per vehicle parking fee 😂
Since he IS camping..... I wonder if he is allowed in the electric lottery drawing? It IS for all camping folks involved in the event.....
I,m having fun with it . I,m 59 on Nov 18 racing 25 mod 125,s is a Blast . 4 states of riders & Canadians . After vet practice there is 85 & 50,s. I,m at the back of my van gussling water & my pal walks up & says 125 is on the gate . I said fill it up I get my helmet on & race down there . They had the rpm’s up I race into a gate & look for a board guy there is none. Then all bikes went wo so I put in 1st to get a jump . Then shifted hyper to get 4th a rt turn then a few ft we where bumping a lot into a Very tight left with a big tire on the left . I was 14-15th there the kids hv amazing bike control . It was a Blast . I shifted a little early the good stuff is a bit higher . I went there to hv fun the Xmas theme was fun , swim in Lake Superior to clean up & to race didn’t care about finish position 1 bit. Double gate drop women’s class got 1st pick .for 55+ . We had fun joking around b4 we raced . We hv fri practice sat,sun races thats quite a bit of organizing. I give the LL credit for being so organized for a week. I don’t think I could ever do it . I get up in my van & can’t find my gloves etc. haha
My regions are absolutely stacked with pro riders also. Every single year the same guys I've seen riding pro for the last 30 years. Am I fast enough probably not anymore but it's the same conversation with all the local vet guys every year. Why even try because it's literally us just trying to qualify and spending a crap ton of money when it's racing guys that are pros and have been since they were kids. We have no realistic chance at all because there isn't even a class that gives us any chance. That's all I'm saying. To me it's the same whether it's Shorty or the local pro that's been doing it forever. They are all A riders and the gate is filled with them there is no class for the regular guys. If that's what they want then fine but don't try and sell this BS that there are classes for everyone. There is a big hole in the structure here.
I understand your frustration but it’s not advertised as a skill level class. The age class isn’t a b-c class and those guys most likely have been fast since before they turned professional. You would be racing them at 15 or 50. Not to mention, you’re slightly exaggerating when you say the whole class made a living racing, that just isn’t true. You’re using the fact there’s a few known pros in there to not train and try to make it. If your goal is winning well that’s a tall mountain to climb and that’s for any class at LL.
Everyone accuses mxsports as greedy but why wouldn’t they just add a 40 B class if that was the case. There has to be more to it than that.
Why do you care? You have no idea what his personal motivations are, yet you want to question them? What a bizarre post.
Well you are wrong I do train I'm at the gym very regularly. I've never ever mentioned winning. I've only said a lot of guys just want a fair chance to go. Did you see the prices I think it's clear they have gotten greedy. My whole point is that every single vet class is actually a pro class because they are all open to pros of some level. I don't get why everyone wants to try and say that's not the case because it absolutely is. It would just be nice if regular dudes had a chance to even go and have the experience. As it has been for a long time that chance ends in about December every year when the class list is released.
While I understand the nostalgia, the “hallowed ground” thing gives me a chuckle everytime. Was headed for fuel yesterday morning with the window down along the announcers tower when they dropped that line yet again during the morning invocation. I’ve always thought that term was reserved for war battlefields, accident sites, places of tragedy where people lost their lives? They use it as a sales pitch.
You think it’s any different for an “average” mini rider or C/B rider in most areas? This race is the top 40 racers in the US(plus a couple foreigners) it’s a challenge and goal to get there. The people that do make it are future pros if they don’t break themselves, burn out or run out of money. I don’t see the fun in someone like Brownie winning +50 by multiple minutes in years past, so somewhat see your point, but there is always going to be that group slightly faster than you and you can either keep chasing them or race a local vet B/C class
Well in defense of Crusher they did try to change the +40 class rules and all the industry fast guys put up a stink so it got changed. I believe it was even after the season had already started. So MXSports definitely likes money but they also like keeping their bros happy
You’ve had the same shot at making it you always have. You’re using the top guys as the reason to say you can’t make it, because they are people that made a living at the pro level. My point is you’ve had the same chance you’ve always had to go, if the guy is in your age class well maybe there’s a chance you would have always been racing them. 250C winner had the same laptimes as 2nd place in 40+. 250C Jr 12-17 had faster lap times than 40+.
I hate that every year the Loretta’s thread gets railroaded by some 40-50 year old bitching about the same thing every single year.
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