2025 Lorretta Lynn MX Bench Racing/Discussion

7/29/2025 1:33pm

This live chat is just a bunch of teenagers calling everything gay.  Pretty pointless to have that on screen.

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7/29/2025 1:39pm

This live chat is just a bunch of teenagers calling everything gay.  Pretty pointless to have that on screen.

First thing I do when I pull up the stream is close the chat box. 

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7/29/2025 1:56pm

This live chat is just a bunch of teenagers calling everything gay.  Pretty pointless to have that on screen.

Deadric wrote:

First thing I do when I pull up the stream is close the chat box. 

Had no idea that I could turn it off! Thanks for the info haha 👍🏽 

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7/29/2025 2:14pm

Wow these girls are ripping!!

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7/29/2025 2:51pm

Shout out to Davi Collins getting 14th in Supermini. He is on a 105, leaders on 112 I believe, doesn't train full time, just races, and top student in public school. Last year him and his 2 brothers (3 total) all made it to Lorettas! 

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7/29/2025 3:05pm Edited Date/Time 7/29/2025 4:57pm

Short is 18 seconds faster a lap than a 10 th racer, ridiculous. 

crusher773 wrote:

That's because every Vet class at LL is an open pro class. There literally isn't a single amateur class for vets there.

tuttle425 wrote:

30+ and 45+.  If you earned a national point you can't ride those classes.

Still filled with guys that have rode pro through their teens and 20s.  Guys that have made money doing it and still do, guys that have made night shows and been on the gate at pro nationals and held pro licenses.  There is not a single actual amateur vet class there.  

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7/29/2025 3:14pm
crusher773 wrote:
Still filled with guys that have rode pro through their teens and 20s.  Guys that have made money doing it and still do, guys that have...

Still filled with guys that have rode pro through their teens and 20s.  Guys that have made money doing it and still do, guys that have made night shows and been on the gate at pro nationals and held pro licenses.  There is not a single actual amateur vet class there.  

It’s going to be ok.

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7/29/2025 3:14pm
crusher773 wrote:

That's because every Vet class at LL is an open pro class. There literally isn't a single amateur class for vets there.

tuttle425 wrote:

30+ and 45+.  If you earned a national point you can't ride those classes.

crusher773 wrote:
Still filled with guys that have rode pro through their teens and 20s.  Guys that have made money doing it and still do, guys that have...

Still filled with guys that have rode pro through their teens and 20s.  Guys that have made money doing it and still do, guys that have made night shows and been on the gate at pro nationals and held pro licenses.  There is not a single actual amateur vet class there.  

Maybe next year they will add a new class:

'30+ fast but not too fast or Meister and crusher773 on Vital will complain' 

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7/29/2025 3:15pm

Cool Logan got 6th from Wi.  He races the 125 class in Wi.  I can’t wait to race with him this yr .  Or more like try not get lapped haha .  100% go for it on the start tho a 1/4 inch lead on the start is still a lead . 

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7/29/2025 3:17pm
crusher773 wrote:

That's because every Vet class at LL is an open pro class. There literally isn't a single amateur class for vets there.

tuttle425 wrote:

30+ and 45+.  If you earned a national point you can't ride those classes.

crusher773 wrote:
Still filled with guys that have rode pro through their teens and 20s.  Guys that have made money doing it and still do, guys that have...

Still filled with guys that have rode pro through their teens and 20s.  Guys that have made money doing it and still do, guys that have made night shows and been on the gate at pro nationals and held pro licenses.  There is not a single actual amateur vet class there.  

I have no interest in going there so I'm not mad but you're right and everyone keeps giving you down votes. I understand they can't police who qualified for what and who had a pro license but it still doesn't change its an ex pro class. With that said I don't mind watching some of the ex pros. 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Cool Logan got 6th from Wi.  He races the 125 class in Wi.  I can’t wait to race with him this yr .  Or more like...

Cool Logan got 6th from Wi.  He races the 125 class in Wi.  I can’t wait to race with him this yr .  Or more like try not get lapped haha .  100% go for it on the start tho a 1/4 inch lead on the start is still a lead . 

He sometimes rides with us on Wednesdays also

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7/29/2025 3:36pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Cool Logan got 6th from Wi.  He races the 125 class in Wi.  I can’t wait to race with him this yr .  Or more like...

Cool Logan got 6th from Wi.  He races the 125 class in Wi.  I can’t wait to race with him this yr .  Or more like try not get lapped haha .  100% go for it on the start tho a 1/4 inch lead on the start is still a lead . 

yak651 wrote:

He sometimes rides with us on Wednesdays also

I figured he did that’s cool. I glimpsed at 125 c too riders from Wi, iL, 2nd from Mn. He does the Millville series.  A chance the IL. Riders race  Aztalan this yr yet . Or they will be racing at the pro am event in iL.    I know they can beat me but excited to race them .  I hv a good chance at a good start tho. 

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7/29/2025 3:39pm Edited Date/Time 7/29/2025 3:39pm
Cool Logan got 6th from Wi.  He races the 125 class in Wi.  I can’t wait to race with him this yr .  Or more like...

Cool Logan got 6th from Wi.  He races the 125 class in Wi.  I can’t wait to race with him this yr .  Or more like try not get lapped haha .  100% go for it on the start tho a 1/4 inch lead on the start is still a lead . 

yak651 wrote:

He sometimes rides with us on Wednesdays also

I figured he did that’s cool. I glimpsed at 125 c too riders from Wi, iL, 2nd from Mn. He does the Millville series.  A chance...

I figured he did that’s cool. I glimpsed at 125 c too riders from Wi, iL, 2nd from Mn. He does the Millville series.  A chance the IL. Riders race  Aztalan this yr yet . Or they will be racing at the pro am event in iL.    I know they can beat me but excited to race them .  I hv a good chance at a good start tho. 

I should try the Wisconsin scene out, what good tracks and races going on in late August?  Closer to  Chicago…. So the south side of WI

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7/29/2025 3:48pm
tuttle425 wrote:

30+ and 45+.  If you earned a national point you can't ride those classes.

crusher773 wrote:
Still filled with guys that have rode pro through their teens and 20s.  Guys that have made money doing it and still do, guys that have...

Still filled with guys that have rode pro through their teens and 20s.  Guys that have made money doing it and still do, guys that have made night shows and been on the gate at pro nationals and held pro licenses.  There is not a single actual amateur vet class there.  

USA wrote:

Maybe next year they will add a new class:

'30+ fast but not too fast or Meister and crusher773 on Vital will complain' 

I wouldn't be mad about it 🤣

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7/29/2025 4:33pm

I'd give my left nut to line up against any of these former national  level pros and to send it deep into the first turn to try and best them.

I just don't get you guys who complain about the opportunity to line up next to Andrew Short or Brown ,Emig etc.

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7/29/2025 4:36pm

Hell, I might even donate some plasma to line up against professional125 😁🙃

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7/29/2025 4:39pm

Does this mean his week is done?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

His chance at the title in that class is done, but he can still line up if they can manage to fix it. 

No he’s done. They let an alternate ride that moto. Alternate’s in for the week. I guess what you have to do is line up even if the bike is broke & then let the guys go & pull off the gate. But who knows maybe keefer said yeah I’m finished go ahead? 

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7/29/2025 4:44pm
I'd give my left nut to line up against any of these former national  level pros and to send it deep into the first turn to...

I'd give my left nut to line up against any of these former national  level pros and to send it deep into the first turn to try and best them.

I just don't get you guys who complain about the opportunity to line up next to Andrew Short or Brown ,Emig etc.

Then do it. Regionals aren't hard to make. You just have to sign up. Put your money where your nut is. 

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7/29/2025 4:48pm
NicNak wrote:
No he’s done. They let an alternate ride that moto. Alternate’s in for the week. I guess what you have to do is line up even...

No he’s done. They let an alternate ride that moto. Alternate’s in for the week. I guess what you have to do is line up even if the bike is broke & then let the guys go & pull off the gate. But who knows maybe keefer said yeah I’m finished go ahead? 

I didn't see the moto, so I don't know if he did it not, but if Keefer lined up and crossed the starting gate and DNF, he can line up for moto two. If he didn't line up and an alternate took his spot, he's SOL. 

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7/29/2025 4:51pm
I'd give my left nut to line up against any of these former national  level pros and to send it deep into the first turn to...

I'd give my left nut to line up against any of these former national  level pros and to send it deep into the first turn to try and best them.

I just don't get you guys who complain about the opportunity to line up next to Andrew Short or Brown ,Emig etc.

mwilcox349 wrote:

Then do it. Regionals aren't hard to make. You just have to sign up. Put your money where your nut is. 

I guess it was a comment if I was still actively racing /riding which I am not.

It would not make any difference if I was. What glory is ther  to be had racing an age division class if they will not let people of your age race?

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7/29/2025 4:54pm

Went to the entry list at the Supermini's, that is now all KTM Group bikes. Nobody who took the "gamble" to race the highly competitive TM Corse bike.

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7/29/2025 4:55pm
crt32 wrote:
Shout out to Davi Collins getting 14th in Supermini. He is on a 105, leaders on 112 I believe, doesn't train full time, just races, and...

Shout out to Davi Collins getting 14th in Supermini. He is on a 105, leaders on 112 I believe, doesn't train full time, just races, and top student in public school. Last year him and his 2 brothers (3 total) all made it to Lorettas! 

There are a few families this year with 3 riders.

Bobby Fitch, McKayden Fitch, Ryker Fitch

Boone Lloyd, Wade Lloyd, Codie Lloyd

Might have missed some

7/29/2025 5:00pm
yak651 wrote:

He sometimes rides with us on Wednesdays also

I figured he did that’s cool. I glimpsed at 125 c too riders from Wi, iL, 2nd from Mn. He does the Millville series.  A chance...

I figured he did that’s cool. I glimpsed at 125 c too riders from Wi, iL, 2nd from Mn. He does the Millville series.  A chance the IL. Riders race  Aztalan this yr yet . Or they will be racing at the pro am event in iL.    I know they can beat me but excited to race them .  I hv a good chance at a good start tho. 

El_Rayo wrote:

I should try the Wisconsin scene out, what good tracks and races going on in late August?  Closer to  Chicago…. So the south side of WI

8-16,17 is Tigerton w on gb. Combine points both days for Battle of Wi. Sat was usually sx it was under the lights. Then moved to a day race.  Talks this yr is a smx type of track.  Sun is Mx , I hear it has a hard base but it’s sand.  You get a pretend 30 /30 gun , a pistol , cowboy hat , etc. kinda of cool . Late August Crystall Falls in the UP barely has a special 2-st race but all classes r raced . Awesome sand track AMart did his 1st pa there.  Pineridge will be big as usual sat, sun alot of double headers usually they hv practice fri 10-3.   Aztalan is the closest for you every race is big . Racer X vet race practice Fri, sat race , sun race a pro am also.  That’s 2 weeks of back to back PA,s.  Sunset Ridge PA is the following week.  Aztalan brought in 100k of dirt .   Xmas , Mi. Last Fri practice race sat, sun races from 4 states & Canada. We hit Lake Superior sat, sun to clean up 70 degree water .  2 or 3 tracks hv  been on Wi. Public tv promoting tourism . A lot of these tracks hv lakes near by split then come back .  Camping & water stuff is big hear it’s a cool free feeling IMG 3939.png?VersionId=wHfV8EspLoTnlXf3b8fSlwTV

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7/29/2025 5:00pm
crt32 wrote:
Shout out to Davi Collins getting 14th in Supermini. He is on a 105, leaders on 112 I believe, doesn't train full time, just races, and...

Shout out to Davi Collins getting 14th in Supermini. He is on a 105, leaders on 112 I believe, doesn't train full time, just races, and top student in public school. Last year him and his 2 brothers (3 total) all made it to Lorettas! 

Lowbidder wrote:

There are a few families this year with 3 riders.

Bobby Fitch, McKayden Fitch, Ryker Fitch

Boone Lloyd, Wade Lloyd, Codie Lloyd

Might have missed some

Damn how do you do that? Big respect for those families!

7/29/2025 5:01pm
I'd give my left nut to line up against any of these former national  level pros and to send it deep into the first turn to...

I'd give my left nut to line up against any of these former national  level pros and to send it deep into the first turn to try and best them.

I just don't get you guys who complain about the opportunity to line up next to Andrew Short or Brown ,Emig etc.

mwilcox349 wrote:

Then do it. Regionals aren't hard to make. You just have to sign up. Put your money where your nut is. 

I guess it was a comment if I was still actively racing /riding which I am not.It would not make any difference if I was. What...

I guess it was a comment if I was still actively racing /riding which I am not.

It would not make any difference if I was. What glory is ther  to be had racing an age division class if they will not let people of your age race?

Not going down this rabbit hole but don't make comments like that if your able to sign up and line up next to those former pros. 

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7/29/2025 5:04pm
I'd give my left nut to line up against any of these former national  level pros and to send it deep into the first turn to...

I'd give my left nut to line up against any of these former national  level pros and to send it deep into the first turn to try and best them.

I just don't get you guys who complain about the opportunity to line up next to Andrew Short or Brown ,Emig etc.

I want to line up against guys like me with real jobs not professionals who made a living at this.  The issue is not that these guys want to race that's cool but they need a separate class.  These guys take up gate spots for guys that this race was really intended for.  I know tons of vet guys that used to try every single year that don't even bother anymore with how the rules are same as me.  I'd just like a fair shake at getting to go once.  When I see who qualifies out of the regions every year though it is quite clear there is no point because it's all ex pros.  I know a lot of people think it's cool downvote me but I don't care.  The fact is every single vet class is open to A class riders whether it be the big show or at a local level.  They are all technically pro classes.  There is no class for B/C vet riders.  

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7/29/2025 5:09pm
I'd give my left nut to line up against any of these former national  level pros and to send it deep into the first turn to...

I'd give my left nut to line up against any of these former national  level pros and to send it deep into the first turn to try and best them.

I just don't get you guys who complain about the opportunity to line up next to Andrew Short or Brown ,Emig etc.

crusher773 wrote:
I want to line up against guys like me with real jobs not professionals who made a living at this.  The issue is not that these...

I want to line up against guys like me with real jobs not professionals who made a living at this.  The issue is not that these guys want to race that's cool but they need a separate class.  These guys take up gate spots for guys that this race was really intended for.  I know tons of vet guys that used to try every single year that don't even bother anymore with how the rules are same as me.  I'd just like a fair shake at getting to go once.  When I see who qualifies out of the regions every year though it is quite clear there is no point because it's all ex pros.  I know a lot of people think it's cool downvote me but I don't care.  The fact is every single vet class is open to A class riders whether it be the big show or at a local level.  They are all technically pro classes.  There is no class for B/C vet riders.  

Why are you still chasing at this age, what is fake glory?

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