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Tell that to Tim Gajser,
He's ahead of them in the championship because they either aren't there or they are back markers to begin with. The fact that you think this is a rebuttal to someone saying Prado is massively underperforming is hilarious. Y'all are really grasping at straws
I'll say again, if you put Marchbanks on that other factory 450 he would be kicking Prado's ass. One of the podcasts mentioned that Broc Tickle is going 4 seconds a lap faster than Prado in practice on the same bike 😂
So Prado’s “massively underperforming” even though he’s 7th in the 450 championship, in his rookie AMA season, on tracks he’s never raced—against one of the deepest 450 fields in years?
And your rebuttal is… Marchbanks? A 250 rider who isn’t even racing the same class? That’s not a comparison, that’s fan fiction.
As for Broc Tickle being faster in practice—cool. Let’s see that translate into actual race results under pressure, heat, and traffic. Fast laps in a controlled setting aren’t the same as a 30-minute moto.
The man is 7th in his first go at a championship
No ,when prado moved to 450 mxgp it took him few years to get endurance up, to where he could battle with herling and gajser the whole moto.
Think him coming of injury in supercross has put his fitness base back.
Nothing to do with ama vs mxgp b.s .
I.e remember when coldenhoff smashed everybody in mxon on usa soil ,tomac ect
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Yes, he's massively underperforming and everyone in the industry agrees with that statement. 7th place is already disappointing without accounting for the fact that AP, Anderson, Webb, etc. are all out and guys like Barcia missed the start of the season.
No dude, fan fiction is you pretending that Prado isn't underperforming. Dude is getting his shit kicked in every week by RJ Hampshire, who is also a rookie and who never even won a 250 MX title
Broc Tickle is a retired test rider. I don't care if it's practice, he should not be 4 seconds a lap faster than a 2-time MXGP champion under any circumstances
Exactly. If he was giving max effort and getting top 10’s thats one thing. Hell if hes giving max effort but gets a 12th thats one thing. When he holeshots and then gets passed by a bunch of guys, then a bunch more guys, then completely gives up and gets 19th, thats another thing entirely. Everybody saw him throw in the towel, and theres been a few races now where he clearly gives up half way and the effort drops way off.
When hes throwing the team under the bus…guys who are staying late every day away from their families trying to get the bike right, and hes not even out there trying his hardest it looks real bad. He definitely deserves a lot of the blame here.
The biggest problem with American motocross is too many of you fans actually believe this.
I don’t believe so many of you can be this dumb, surely you’re just trolling?!
People keep bringing this up as if Prado was pushing to the absolute limit and was 9 seconds slower than Jett, he wasn’t trying, he was absolutely trail riding out there
Here are the answers to all your prado questions
1 should prado say with kawa.......no ....2 .will everything turn out allright at kawa....no 3... why would prado say with kawa....money......4 ..was it a wrong decision to go to america......probably ....5 will prado be successful in supercross ....no......6....could prado have won a national on a gasgas......yes....
so you think Prado has forgotten how to ride ?
He probably didn’t forget how to ride but he forgot how to suffer. As the kids say, “the boy does NOT have the dawg in him”
How many rider with the “Dawg” in them get hurt pushing when situation isn’t good ?
It takes a smart rider to win a long championship, how many had Prado won ?
Yeah, total failure. Prado’s only 7th in the 450 championship during his rookie AMA season, on tracks he’s never raced, in one of the deepest fields in years. What a disgrace.
Marchbanks would apparently crush him… if he were in the same class. Which he’s not. But hey, don’t let that stop the fantasy.
And Tickle going faster in practice? Incredible. Let’s start handing out points for test track lap times while we’re at it. Maybe throw in a trophy for fastest warm-up lap too?
Is Prado struggling to find his form? Sure. But if that performance is “trash,” then half the field should pack it up.
You’re correct about most all of what you stated and 7th in the standings is good no doubt about it. Still the expectations were much higher than 7th and not even a sniff at a moto win. Because of his resume everyone expected much more than what he’s shown. Not only that he seems to have gotten worse rather than better as the season has went on.
Prado literally said he expected to fight for the title so he's underperforming even by his own words. He and everyone else can see it but you can't
You keep bringing up points but he's been nowhere near the top guys and is regularly finishing a minute+ behind each moto. If you think that's what anyone expected coming into this season then you're delusional. Funny how you didn't respond to my point about the rookie RJ Hampshire beating his ass every weekend, lol
Half the field isn't being paid millions of dollars to ride factory equipment, dumbass. And the only one packing it up will be Prado when he runs back to MXGP with his tail between his legs
He hasn't won jackshit in America
So you’ve just erased his career up until america ?
Interesting. Did you erase his performance at the 2018 nations aswell ?
Seems bizarre how wound up most Americans are over Prado’s first US season.
I'm not erasing anything, I said he hasn't won jackshit in America. Can you read?
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Prada’s not going back to MXGP, and this season hasn’t been as woefully bad as you entertain. Yes he’s getting beat by RJ, Hampshire is on a bike he’s on record liking and Prado is on a bike he’s on record hating, and up until this last week usually finished a position or two behind the 24 who’s been riding really well. Is your point Prado’s not good enough for AMA? It was just a one off but he beat Jett at Ernee so he definitely has elite, elite talent
Everyone seems to be on the band wagon that it is his fitness. I don't think it is that. A former champion just doesn't lose all that in a few months. From watching like everyone else, he just does not gel with that bike. Lets face it, he pretty much looks like a squid on it. Tip-toeing through corners like he is going to fall over. It is pretty bad.
Also, we are comparing him to Tickle who has been on that platform for how many years and developing the bike? And what do most of the manufacturers develope the bike for in the US market? Supercross. Prado most likely tested the bike for supercross without any consideration of the mx side. "Bike is fantastic." Ignorant in my mind and maybe a very large mistake on his part. Another comparison is Fevre. He has been on and developing that bike since 2020. Comparison goes out the window. Now look at Anderson. He has had a few flashes of brilliance since jumping off the Husky, but nothing like his championship years. I bet if Prado was on his GasaGas from last year everyone would be seeing a totally different racer.
Before he raced his first outdoor race, I figured he would run 4-7 during this year with an occasional 3rd in a moto.
Next year I figured he would be a 1-5 guy.
I was off.
Ah yes, the classic “he said he wanted to win, therefore he’s a failure” argument. By that logic, about 30 riders should apologize every weekend for not living up to press conference optimism.
No one’s denying Prado expected more — everyone did. But struggling in a debut season, while still sitting 7th overall, doesn’t suddenly erase his talent or turn him into some factory fraud.
RJ’s riding great — no one’s arguing that. But you keep bringing him up like it’s some mic-drop moment. Not every rookie takes the same path. Want to compare their full careers next?
And if you think only championship contenders deserve a factory ride, I’ve got some team rosters you should take a closer look at
If Prado goes back to MXGP, it won’t be with his “tail between his legs.” It’ll be with multiple world titles, AMA experience, and a whole lot more credibility than half the people throwing shade from their couches
What do you mean he wouldn’t be returning to Europe with his tail between his legs? He’s on record saying he’s going to come and win here so if he gets out of a 3 years deal and returns home, that’s going back with his tail between his legs. He gave up. He didn’t see it thru and put in maximum effort. If getting out of a 3 years deal deal and running back to Europe doesn’t include his tail between his legs, then I don’t know what does. Shit was too hard for him to overcome even tho guys like DV12, Tortelli, Langston, Albee, and more did it pre smart phone and pre internet which would’ve been wayyyyyyyyyyy harder to do IMO.
You’re confusing “wound up “ with baffled. Euros thought he was gonna show the Boys over here a thing or two about a thing or two.
He’s a decorated World Champ not Ronnie Wingnut from Chicken licks raceway. He shouldn’t be “trail riding” in 20th, when in his own words, “wants to win”. On the contrary he looked pretty beat for “trail riding”….
Yeah lots of riders “want to win” but very few have wan at the highest level so depending on who’s mouth it comes from has different meanings. Prado should have atleast battled for a podium this deep into the season.
I don’t believe you.
He’s not even completed a season yet & came off surgery.
Why you so butt hurt over Prado ?
He’s an interesting stat. Since the 2023 MX season until now only two riders have won a 450 MX overall. Jett and Chase. I had to laugh at the talk of Prado winning races and battling for the championship preseason. Steel to aluminum frame, format changes, learning new tracks. I thought top 10’s by the end of the season. It’s a bad look when multiple industry people who are at the races say the fitness isn’t there, he’s not trying, and my favorite he put his hand up to block roost. At some point he needs to admit it’s not all the bike.
That’s simple.
To ride at race pace the bike is to sketchy for him to try and give 100%.
I really think it’s that simple.
He’s not comfortable he’s not going to do much on race day.
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