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100%. If Trump is so fucking great then do something about the coverup. It’s been going on forever. All this talk about draining swamp just seems like the swamp characters are being replaced with new ones.
About the “innocent people on the list” that he’s spoken about. Yeah man idk. At this point I don’t really care. How many people have been fucked over by rules on getting caught with controlled substances and “guilty by association” and other similar scenarios. I’m fed up with the laws for us citizens reaching to the fucking moon but these scum bag fuck politicians abide by nearly none and get off far easier than the average citizen.
It should be a privilege to serve in Congress/senate/etc. Not an opportunity to do whatever you please and insider trade like a MF.
Funny how the DOJ investigation on Pfizer went away after Bondi became AG. Previously I hear she was outside council to….. Pfizer.
Are we draining the swamp yet?
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Remember when the feds blasted that dudes squirrel in NY? Lol they went harder and faster on that investigation than they did both times JE was in custody. Absolutely unacceptable and pathetic as fuck. If they won’t release the unredacted evidence then they’re all guilty. Line the fucking gallows up. We need to stop paying taxes. I’m sick of it.
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A demand to prove that there’s nothing there or prosecute is really just collapses to a demand to prosecute, since “nothing” is a very difficult thing to prove. Generally, the burden of proof is on the person claiming something, which is as it should be (we don’t want to go back to witch trials - nobody was able to prove that they weren’t a witch - at least not in a way that was survivable)
I’m not saying that there is nothing there. To think that would miss my point entirely. To see my point, suppose for the sake of argument that there is nothing there: What would constitute proof of this? Nobody who thinks there is a list will believe that there is no proof, so reasoning from the absence of proof to the absence of a list would be futile. And if there is no list, what would be a smoking gun that definitively establishes that? Complete transparency is probably the answer. But if people aren’t seeing what they think is there, they will likely just dismiss what they are seeing as incomplete - that something is still being hidden. So if there is really nothing there, the administration is in a really uncomfortable position - largely of their own making.
If there is a list, the list itself would establish that there is a list, only if there is corroborating evidence (otherwise any Joe Blow could just write up a list). In fact, it’s not the list itself that’s important, it’s the evidence of guilt. A list would be helpful, but not necessary. Evidence needs to exist to show that something is, in fact, there to pursue.
The issue is, of course, that Bondi had previously said that something was there - on her desk. That’s pretty good reason to believe that something is going on. She is her country’s top prosecutor. Prosecutors shouldn’t go around making casual statements about evidence. So what the hell is happening?
A hopeful possibility is that they are building a case. If they accuse someone, they need to have reasonable confidence that the evidence can secure a conviction. I wonder if they are just keeping their cards close to their chest for the moment? That’s possible. I’m not optimistic though.
It’s also possible that she had been instructed to not pursue further, either due to insufficient evidence, or corruption. That’s where the demand for transparency comes into play. The government seems to be messing with the people by saying “we have the evidence” - then “nope, just kidding”. The AG doesn’t typically kid around so yes, there is probably something to pursue. There are, in all likelihood, more perverts to prosecute. If there aren’t, then I don’t think I can overstate just how incredibly stupid if was for her to have indicated otherwise. She owes the public some answers, either in the form of some prosecutions or - well, I really don’t know what else could possibly be acceptable, because hand waving and denials are simply not going to be good enough.
No, but you guys aren’t either. The only reason you are now is because of Trump. How long has Epstein been dead, and everyone is just now up in arms? If Elon Musk said, “I’ve checked the list and Trump isn’t on it” then all you guys would f-ckin care less. There’s so much more stuff that went on with Biden and the Clinton’s having everyone whacked and none of you haters said anything. Then all of a sudden “It’s horrible what Trump’s allowed to happen.”
Does the thought ever enter anyone’s mind that there is a reason Trump is the most hated person with the wealthiest and most powerful people in America?
Have any of you ever asked yourself, “Why is the media 100% against Trump?”
Or have any of you asked yourselves “Why do I hate one guy so much that I can’t help but seethe with fury and rage?”
Where does that come from? When a Pediatrician talks gleefully about children dying because of Trump, where does that type of hatred and callousness come from?
You are incredibly partisan. Nothing you stated above applies to the fact that most humans find pedophilia the most reprehensible of crimes. I don’t care who’s name is implicated, just want pedophiles to be prevented from being pedophiles.
Suggesting people only care about this because of who is in office is incredibly far off base.
Well written. Also, let’s not forget about this spectacle….
They say history repeats. The last 10 years have taught me more about world history than any book, documentary or movie ever could. I now understand the headspace that leads to disaster better than I ever thought I would.
Burn, maybe it’s because DJT has campaigned on unveiling the truth behind the Epstein shit. It’s pretty simple. He said he was gonna do it, they didn’t release jack shit, and now says there’s nothing else to show except child pornography. He was the president when JE was arrested the second time. He’s been briefed on alllll of the electronics they confiscated. Don knows what’s up and for some reason now claims there’s nothing to see and has a little temper tantrum when people bring it up. Yeah fuck Joe Biden and Obama and bush for not doing the right thing. I’ll be more than happy to tie their nooses too. Fuck Obama for operation fast and furious. Fuck Obama and the Clinton’s and whoever else for alll of the bad shit they’ve done if it’s true. I want accountability. I do not give a shit who it is. Justice. I’ve been bitching about the Epstein and other things for years. This ain’t anything new to me.
The people that trust every single thing Trump says or does are diminishing, which is a good thing. He does good, he does bad, just like any other President. Some are more bad than good, some more good than bad. Policies that are great for some, are bad for others. No President is universally great on all things.
All politicians need to be scrutinized for their actions. Almost all of them have ulterior motives, as well.
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Any of that lead to convictions?
Or is it just more talk?
Did he campaign on that? He didn’t seem too interested in making it public from what I saw. He looked downright uncomfortable when asked about it. I don’t want to read too much into it but I’ve seen numerous references to Trump campaigning on this but I’ve not seen any evidence that he did.
None of us know sh-t. I think one of Trump's downfalls is obviously that he thrives on making people mad and doing everything out loud. He's been pretty straightforward on this stuff. Do we really know why he held back? He also hasn't really revealed any of the Kennedy or MLK files either.
I seriously doubt any of you guys had anything to say about any other president before Trump. But of course, its "Yeah, f-ckin Trump! ... and all the other bastards too, although I can't think of any others."
You need to read thru.......otherwise.
I'm not holding your hand.
Just read it. Saw zero convictions.
Sounds like a bunch of investigations and task forces and all that bullshit.
Isn’t this the same song and dance they went through with Epstein to now tell us it’s not a big deal?
Seriously bro, I fail to see what in that thread proves your point that Trump is draining the swamp.
Can you enlighten me?
Yep can’t deny, good points
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I’ve made several comments here about Biden being a kid sniffer and showering with his daughter.
https://substack.com/@letsgetintoit2025/note/c-135498568?r=5iusm9&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
No I’m not. How do you talk with objectively about Trump when you have bloodthirsty animals just waiting for some juicy morsel on Trump to literally go crazy over.
All of us hate pedophiles, just like I don’t think any of you liberal guys really like guys in girls bathrooms. Okay, who else are you talking about besides Trump?
Booo
Pretty sure that’s a meme for one of your libtards.
I’m not an American so I have some distance from your politics but I don’t think I’ve been overly critical of Trump. In fact, I often find myself commenting on some of the nonsense that people saddle him with (eg Liz Cheney should be shot, ingest bleach for Covid - not at all what he said).
Often it’s not so much that I like Trump, it’s more that when I see people unfairly insulting Trump supporters I sometimes feel the need to say something. Not that anyone needs my help. I do out of my own sense of fairness.
Regarding this Epstein issue, people who voted for him seem no less angry than those who didn’t in many cases which indicates that this goes beyond political parties or personal feelings about the man.
As far as nobody caring about other presidents, I just don’t see that at all. The Biden crime family? Obama and his birth certificate? FFS, I remember the uproar when Obama wore a tan suit. It’s absolutely unbelievable to me that anyone would suggest that mud slinging only goes one direction. Sure, it only goes one direction from most people, and both sides think they are entirely in the right (of course you think your side is right, or you wouldn’t be on that side).
By the way, WTF is this about Biden showering with his daughter? (mvd61’s post)? Good lord!
I find it interesting that you call making people mad one of Trump’s downfalls when as far as I can see, that’s something that a lot of people love about him - that he “owns the libs”.
I wonder if many politicians in the U.S. get the kind of hate that Justin Trudeau got in Western Canada. Where I live, you couldn’t drive 2 blocks without seeing a “Fuck Trudeau” bumper sticker. His dad wasn’t exactly loved in Western Canada either (just look up Canada national energy program).
That is a very well constructed reply 👍
Yes, somewhat rare in this joint...;o)
Absolutely right that plenty of people have been taken down by the company they keep and not their own actions. Trump himself joked about epstein liking them young..... Purely business relationships, sure, maybe you don't know much, but seems like he mixed business and pleasure quite often so it's probably not a stretch to assume that many of these politicians and celebrities had some idea what was going on and it didn't stop them from rubbing shoulders with the guy.
That is the mentality I cannot stand and it wouldn't bother me one bit if some passive bystanders get taken down as well even if they never nutted inside a child.
Jerry Sandusky, cosby, weinstein.... it's just an open secret that they're sexual predators and the people surrounding them can't even be bothered to stop inviting them to their parties. It's absolutely disgusting.
Sorry, I don't care who you are or how intertwined our friends or business interests are, if you're a creep to that level then I'm going to wreck you. None of these guys did any such thing with epstein, so they're all guilty. Bring them all down.
The fact that a smart guy like yourself doesn't know the shower reference tells you how corrupt the media is.
Biden's daughter's diary, Absolutely buried by mainstream media, ignored because they claimed it wasn't real..... it was, the daughter confirmed it in letter to a judge when the person who stole it was being sentenced. Still not reported on even after verified as real....
Agree with him or not ,MPJC never disappoints.
Never heard anything about this - kind of wishing it stayed that way. Now I need a shower.
I’m not an American so I really just get headlines and whatever makes it on to Canadian news. Plus what I see here. Thanks for keeping me informed!
As crazy as this sounds, we can’t share news on Facebook or Instagram. Yes, you read that right, it’s illegal. This limits what we see as well. Thanks Justin Trudeau - damn communist.
Edit: it doesn’t really limit what you can see - you can still access whatever you want. It limits what you see if you don’t look for it. I used to see a lot of news because friends shared it on Facebook. If an American friend shares something I get a stupid box saying it’s not available in Canada.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/online-news-act-meta-facebook-1.6885634
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