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I wonder if it would have been smart to only race selected SX rounds and get Prado absolutely comfortable for outdoors first. Getting straight into the full US schedule is brutal. I hope this doesn't kill all the confidence he had. I really thought even with limited prep he would hang with the top 3 in outdoors, guess I'm dumb.

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vdrsnk04 wrote:

It is wild isn’t it. It’s all over the place.

Yeah, all the media talk about Tomac being the one to beat Jett and fight for the championship but half of the motos so far he struggle to beat AP, Hunter and Jcoop. So either they over hyping ET or under selling the other three guys. 

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Easy work for Deegs. The team let him down last week. They did not have that bike ready for the altitude.

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You must have missed moto 2 when he was beat straight up with a healthy bike…

Deegs crashed in Moto 2. That’s not straight up.

He crashed while trying to reel Hymas back in, definitely went for the moto win and made a mistake trying to run Hymas pace. That's as straight up as it gets lol.

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Easy work for Deegs. The team let him down last week. They did not have that bike ready for the altitude.

vdrsnk04 wrote:

You must have missed moto 2 when he was beat straight up with a healthy bike…

Deegs crashed in Moto 2. That’s not straight up.

That is what happens when you are forced to ride over your head.

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xxxFRIOxxx wrote:

Quick rant: His name is James or Bubba. I think Stew is so dang annoying. 

AVL28 wrote:
Bro if my comment annoyed you at least quote me when you complain 😂What a weird thing to get annoyed by anyway. James, bubba, stew, JS7...

Bro if my comment annoyed you at least quote me when you complain 😂

What a weird thing to get annoyed by anyway. James, bubba, stew, JS7, who cares?

Hey brother didn’t see your post, I was just complaining that she keeps calling him Stew. No issue with you or your post my friend.

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vdrsnk04 wrote:

It is wild isn’t it. It’s all over the place.

Tumic wrote:
Yeah, all the media talk about Tomac being the one to beat Jett and fight for the championship but half of the motos so far he...

Yeah, all the media talk about Tomac being the one to beat Jett and fight for the championship but half of the motos so far he struggle to beat AP, Hunter and Jcoop. So either they over hyping ET or under selling the other three guys. 

It's the starts. He starts behind those guys just about every time. He has to put more risk and exert more energy to catch and pass way more riders. It's not sustainable in this field. He still had a laptime that was 1.5-2 seconds faster than all 3 of those guys, and over half a second faster than Jett's fastest while he was trying to catch AP. Don't think it's likely he can do it week in and week out, but he's still the best bet for challenging Jett in any given moto. 

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Hey they showed Dianna Dahlgren or however it is spelled in those highlights. She was still by far the best Monster girl, she actually brought something to being in that position for the sport imo.

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6/14/2025 12:06pm
vdrsnk04 wrote:

You must have missed moto 2 when he was beat straight up with a healthy bike…

Deegs crashed in Moto 2. That’s not straight up.

Mavetism wrote:
He crashed while trying to reel Hymas back in, definitely went for the moto win and made a mistake trying to run Hymas pace. That's as...

He crashed while trying to reel Hymas back in, definitely went for the moto win and made a mistake trying to run Hymas pace. That's as straight up as it gets lol.

Yeah. Right. Because Deegs struggles to run Hymas’s pace. Do you have eyes? Do they work? The cope is depressing.

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6/14/2025 12:06pm

I don't care how bad Prado thinks his bike is, it isn't this bad.

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Has Eli ever had a season with this many poor starts? What the hell is he doing? So bad.

Yeah, kinda reminds me of his last outdoor season on Kawasaki when he knew he was leaving and done with that bike.

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6/14/2025 12:07pm

The emotion from AP there was real. Yes he's always smiling and good spirited but the guy is hungry

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6/14/2025 12:08pm
vdrsnk04 wrote:

It is wild isn’t it. It’s all over the place.

Tumic wrote:
Yeah, all the media talk about Tomac being the one to beat Jett and fight for the championship but half of the motos so far he...

Yeah, all the media talk about Tomac being the one to beat Jett and fight for the championship but half of the motos so far he struggle to beat AP, Hunter and Jcoop. So either they over hyping ET or under selling the other three guys. 

You try to bash Tomac every chance you get. Doesn't change bad starts are hurting him. Talk as much shit as you want but you look stupid because Tomac beat him outdoors and indoors. Who else has?

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Deegs crashed in Moto 2. That’s not straight up.

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He crashed while trying to reel Hymas back in, definitely went for the moto win and made a mistake trying to run Hymas pace. That's as...

He crashed while trying to reel Hymas back in, definitely went for the moto win and made a mistake trying to run Hymas pace. That's as straight up as it gets lol.

Yeah. Right. Because Deegs struggles to run Hymas’s pace. Do you have eyes? Do they work? The cope is depressing.

Dude Hymas obviously has that one race per year, Deegan also struggled with Davies pace in SX here n there. Deegan is by far the most consistent in the 250 class and it's not even close out there but don't act like other riders don't have their weekends where they can match him or even go faster. You're coping even harder

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parkman wrote:
It's the starts. He starts behind those guys just about every time. He has to put more risk and exert more energy to catch and pass...

It's the starts. He starts behind those guys just about every time. He has to put more risk and exert more energy to catch and pass way more riders. It's not sustainable in this field. He still had a laptime that was 1.5-2 seconds faster than all 3 of those guys, and over half a second faster than Jett's fastest while he was trying to catch AP. Don't think it's likely he can do it week in and week out, but he's still the best bet for challenging Jett in any given moto. 

Starts are a part of the race to and you can’t hand pick what parts of the race you want to fit the narrative. 

When the gate drops the moto starts and when the checkered flag comes out it’s finished and so far this season, half of the motos the other guys I mentioned have done a better job than ET.

And IF he can go 1.5-2 seconds faster a lap, he should be able to pass them to.

I’m no buying ”if it was not for the (incert part of the race here)” he would win/be up there. If the other riders finish ahead, they have done a better job.

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Feel bad for Mookie. But his gear looks awesome!

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Damn Malcom with the bar to the chin. James saying he’s going to tell Malcom he got Knocked out lol

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You try to bash Tomac every chance you get. Doesn't change bad starts are hurting him. Talk as much shit as you want but you look...

You try to bash Tomac every chance you get. Doesn't change bad starts are hurting him. Talk as much shit as you want but you look stupid because Tomac beat him outdoors and indoors. Who else has?

Or credit the guys that beat him…

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6/14/2025 12:13pm
parkman wrote:
It's the starts. He starts behind those guys just about every time. He has to put more risk and exert more energy to catch and pass...

It's the starts. He starts behind those guys just about every time. He has to put more risk and exert more energy to catch and pass way more riders. It's not sustainable in this field. He still had a laptime that was 1.5-2 seconds faster than all 3 of those guys, and over half a second faster than Jett's fastest while he was trying to catch AP. Don't think it's likely he can do it week in and week out, but he's still the best bet for challenging Jett in any given moto. 

Tumic wrote:
Starts are a part of the race to and you can’t hand pick what parts of the race you want to fit the narrative. When the gate...

Starts are a part of the race to and you can’t hand pick what parts of the race you want to fit the narrative. 

When the gate drops the moto starts and when the checkered flag comes out it’s finished and so far this season, half of the motos the other guys I mentioned have done a better job than ET.

And IF he can go 1.5-2 seconds faster a lap, he should be able to pass them to.

I’m no buying ”if it was not for the (incert part of the race here)” he would win/be up there. If the other riders finish ahead, they have done a better job.

They have done better? Why is he 2nd in points?

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6/14/2025 12:15pm
You try to bash Tomac every chance you get. Doesn't change bad starts are hurting him. Talk as much shit as you want but you look...

You try to bash Tomac every chance you get. Doesn't change bad starts are hurting him. Talk as much shit as you want but you look stupid because Tomac beat him outdoors and indoors. Who else has?

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Or credit the guys that beat him…

You aren't trying to credit the other guys. If you were, you would say "man AP rode great". Not start every post with "Tomac". Goon.

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You aren't trying to credit the other guys. If you were, you would say "man AP rode great". Not start every post with "Tomac". Goon.

I said tho possible things and you hung up on one of them becuse you choose to.

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6/14/2025 12:17pm
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He crashed while trying to reel Hymas back in, definitely went for the moto win and made a mistake trying to run Hymas pace. That's as...

He crashed while trying to reel Hymas back in, definitely went for the moto win and made a mistake trying to run Hymas pace. That's as straight up as it gets lol.

Yeah. Right. Because Deegs struggles to run Hymas’s pace. Do you have eyes? Do they work? The cope is depressing.

Mavetism wrote:
Dude Hymas obviously has that one race per year, Deegan also struggled with Davies pace in SX here n there. Deegan is by far the most...

Dude Hymas obviously has that one race per year, Deegan also struggled with Davies pace in SX here n there. Deegan is by far the most consistent in the 250 class and it's not even close out there but don't act like other riders don't have their weekends where they can match him or even go faster. You're coping even harder

With a blown up bike and a crash I don’t think you can classify that as struggling to run pace and getting beat straight up. Good on Hymas for holding it down, he looked strong. But, agree to disagree.

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6/14/2025 12:18pm
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250 moto 1 results ?  Usually the members on here do a Excellent job calling the action . Not today though 

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They have done better? Why is he 2nd in points?

Do you struggle to understand the half of the motos part and that the other half of the motos can alter the points standing because of him winning one moto and finish second in two of them?. That’s why I said half of them and not all of them…

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Yeah. Right. Because Deegs struggles to run Hymas’s pace. Do you have eyes? Do they work? The cope is depressing.

Mavetism wrote:
Dude Hymas obviously has that one race per year, Deegan also struggled with Davies pace in SX here n there. Deegan is by far the most...

Dude Hymas obviously has that one race per year, Deegan also struggled with Davies pace in SX here n there. Deegan is by far the most consistent in the 250 class and it's not even close out there but don't act like other riders don't have their weekends where they can match him or even go faster. You're coping even harder

With a blown up bike and a crash I don’t think you can classify that as struggling to run pace and getting beat straight up. Good...

With a blown up bike and a crash I don’t think you can classify that as struggling to run pace and getting beat straight up. Good on Hymas for holding it down, he looked strong. But, agree to disagree.

So Chase never got beat when he crashed behind Jett? Tomac didn't get beat last weekend because he crashed behind Jett? That's a weird logic haha

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6/14/2025 12:21pm
Mavetism wrote:
He crashed while trying to reel Hymas back in, definitely went for the moto win and made a mistake trying to run Hymas pace. That's as...

He crashed while trying to reel Hymas back in, definitely went for the moto win and made a mistake trying to run Hymas pace. That's as straight up as it gets lol.

Yeah. Right. Because Deegs struggles to run Hymas’s pace. Do you have eyes? Do they work? The cope is depressing.

Mavetism wrote:
Dude Hymas obviously has that one race per year, Deegan also struggled with Davies pace in SX here n there. Deegan is by far the most...

Dude Hymas obviously has that one race per year, Deegan also struggled with Davies pace in SX here n there. Deegan is by far the most consistent in the 250 class and it's not even close out there but don't act like other riders don't have their weekends where they can match him or even go faster. You're coping even harder

Hymas is right behind Deegs. Let’s see who struggles to run who’s pace.

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Bubba quote of the day …  I saw a four year old with a mustache earlier! 😂

That’s was great! Just remember that 5 out of 4 people struggle with math too! 🤪 👍❗️

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Tumic wrote:

With the results so far this season, is Jcoop, AP and Hunter underrated or is Tomac overrated?.

 

Matthes has a take on Tomac that I agree with - he’ll have his moments during the season where he’s up front but it won’t be every race and probably not enough to win the title.

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6/14/2025 12:24pm
Tumic wrote:

With the results so far this season, is Jcoop, AP and Hunter underrated or is Tomac overrated?.

 

ando wrote:
Matthes has a take on Tomac that I agree with - he’ll have his moments during the season where he’s up front but it won’t be...

Matthes has a take on Tomac that I agree with - he’ll have his moments during the season where he’s up front but it won’t be every race and probably not enough to win the title.

The only rider that can beat Jett is Jett.

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