Amateur Motocross Pricing Itself Out?

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defeatist45 wrote:
You don’t HAVE to have multiple brand new bikes. You don’t HAVE to get the newest most expensive pant/jersey combo. You don’t HAVE to run VP...

You don’t HAVE to have multiple brand new bikes. You don’t HAVE to get the newest most expensive pant/jersey combo. You don’t HAVE to run VP at $20 dollars a gallon(or whatever it is). You don’t HAVE to have the ultimate camper/ toy hauler/ trailer set up, and you damn sure don’t HAVE to chase a Loretta’s ticket. A used truck and two stroke is your friend. I have seen guys running all of the latest and greatest and Junior still gets smoked by a ten year old bike running pump gas pitting out of an old ford ranger. Is it still expensive? Yes, but it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than keeping up with the Jones’s. You can go either way, but it’s ultimately your choice.

One 250sx and a used base model former Fastenal truck have made me a lot of money over the last few years. 

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RealityCheck 6/4/2025 12:38pm
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Cademx14 wrote:
Everything taken into consideration, I’m beginning to worry that Amateur Motocross is simply getting too expensive for any and everyone to have a legitimate chance. Motocross...

Everything taken into consideration, I’m beginning to worry that Amateur Motocross is simply getting too expensive for any and everyone to have a legitimate chance. Motocross is a great sport and has forged many friendships, memories, and a relationship between my son and I that few will ever have outside of this sport. New bikes are 8k to 13k, which you really need at least 2 to make a real run at Loretta’s, Qualifiers are $1000 to $3000 weekends, maintenance on the bikes, gear and all the other expenses! This is rapidly becoming a sport for the wealthy and their kids. Dealers aren’t selling many bikes, manufacturers are struggling…. I guess what I’m asking is how can it be fixed? 

Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator to determine comparable 2025 dollars. 

My first new motocross bike was a 1975 Suzuki RM125. I paid $700 for it. That's $4,200 in 2025 dollars and much cheaper than new 125s. 

I purchased a new 1996 CR250 for $5,000.  That's $10,250 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2007 CRF450 for $7000. That's $10,800 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2019 KX450 for $8,600. That's $10,200 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

In 2000, my local track charged $25 for a practice day.  That's $46 in 2025 dollars and the same track now charges $45. 

I could go on, but I haven't really observed anything beyond normal inflation (beyond the outlier 1975 RM) in the world of motocross. 

Things like Loretta Lynn's doesn't really impact 99.99999% of riders, so it's statistically insignificant in the context of a discussion about the costs associated with motocross in general. 

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profeshenal125 6/4/2025 1:37pm
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Cademx14 wrote:
Everything taken into consideration, I’m beginning to worry that Amateur Motocross is simply getting too expensive for any and everyone to have a legitimate chance. Motocross...

Everything taken into consideration, I’m beginning to worry that Amateur Motocross is simply getting too expensive for any and everyone to have a legitimate chance. Motocross is a great sport and has forged many friendships, memories, and a relationship between my son and I that few will ever have outside of this sport. New bikes are 8k to 13k, which you really need at least 2 to make a real run at Loretta’s, Qualifiers are $1000 to $3000 weekends, maintenance on the bikes, gear and all the other expenses! This is rapidly becoming a sport for the wealthy and their kids. Dealers aren’t selling many bikes, manufacturers are struggling…. I guess what I’m asking is how can it be fixed? 

RealityCheck wrote:
Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator...

Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator to determine comparable 2025 dollars. 

My first new motocross bike was a 1975 Suzuki RM125. I paid $700 for it. That's $4,200 in 2025 dollars and much cheaper than new 125s. 

I purchased a new 1996 CR250 for $5,000.  That's $10,250 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2007 CRF450 for $7000. That's $10,800 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2019 KX450 for $8,600. That's $10,200 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

In 2000, my local track charged $25 for a practice day.  That's $46 in 2025 dollars and the same track now charges $45. 

I could go on, but I haven't really observed anything beyond normal inflation (beyond the outlier 1975 RM) in the world of motocross. 

Things like Loretta Lynn's doesn't really impact 99.99999% of riders, so it's statistically insignificant in the context of a discussion about the costs associated with motocross in general. 

Way off on the 96 prices. In 95 I bought a  92 etc cab chev pu with a 1 ton trans,  like new from Tx. For 10,500 .  Today that’s 45-50k.   Anyone with a full time job could easily buy a new 125 threw the 90,s  living on there own.  Today extremely rare a young guy can buy a new 250f.  There is 5-10 hr 125,s out there for 3,200-3,800 .   That’s why the 125 class is so big.  

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WestoftheElwha 6/4/2025 4:40pm
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Cademx14 wrote:
Everything taken into consideration, I’m beginning to worry that Amateur Motocross is simply getting too expensive for any and everyone to have a legitimate chance. Motocross...

Everything taken into consideration, I’m beginning to worry that Amateur Motocross is simply getting too expensive for any and everyone to have a legitimate chance. Motocross is a great sport and has forged many friendships, memories, and a relationship between my son and I that few will ever have outside of this sport. New bikes are 8k to 13k, which you really need at least 2 to make a real run at Loretta’s, Qualifiers are $1000 to $3000 weekends, maintenance on the bikes, gear and all the other expenses! This is rapidly becoming a sport for the wealthy and their kids. Dealers aren’t selling many bikes, manufacturers are struggling…. I guess what I’m asking is how can it be fixed? 

RealityCheck wrote:
Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator...

Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator to determine comparable 2025 dollars. 

My first new motocross bike was a 1975 Suzuki RM125. I paid $700 for it. That's $4,200 in 2025 dollars and much cheaper than new 125s. 

I purchased a new 1996 CR250 for $5,000.  That's $10,250 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2007 CRF450 for $7000. That's $10,800 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2019 KX450 for $8,600. That's $10,200 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

In 2000, my local track charged $25 for a practice day.  That's $46 in 2025 dollars and the same track now charges $45. 

I could go on, but I haven't really observed anything beyond normal inflation (beyond the outlier 1975 RM) in the world of motocross. 

Things like Loretta Lynn's doesn't really impact 99.99999% of riders, so it's statistically insignificant in the context of a discussion about the costs associated with motocross in general. 

What if you apply these conversions to food , rent , and gas …. I’d be interested to see how that comes out . 

I like the way you applied simple math rather than subjective heaping on , 

Could you explain your math a bit ? 

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It’s too expensive.

We can compare what a bike cost from year to year but wages is another story.

In my opinion, it’s cheaper and very satisfying to race smaller local races.

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Imagine if you could go down to the bike shop, lay out around 3 to 4 thousand for an air cooled drum brake 125 or 250.  Then once you go a bit familiar with it round up 25 buddies, find an empty field, throw up some ribbon and have fun.  I think sometimes we've all forgotten what made this sport so appealing.  It wasn't constantly groomed tracks, 60 horsepower bikes, 12" of travel, or 40' doubles.  Here's to hoping we (and some manufacturer(s) figure it out before our sport becomes a memory.

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Richard Tease II 6/4/2025 5:35pm
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joekarter wrote:
Imagine if you could go down to the bike shop, lay out around 3 to 4 thousand for an air cooled drum brake 125 or 250...

Imagine if you could go down to the bike shop, lay out around 3 to 4 thousand for an air cooled drum brake 125 or 250.  Then once you go a bit familiar with it round up 25 buddies, find an empty field, throw up some ribbon and have fun.  I think sometimes we've all forgotten what made this sport so appealing.  It wasn't constantly groomed tracks, 60 horsepower bikes, 12" of travel, or 40' doubles.  Here's to hoping we (and some manufacturer(s) figure it out before our sport becomes a memory.

Yeh but back in those days free space was in abundance.

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Cademx14 wrote:
Everything taken into consideration, I’m beginning to worry that Amateur Motocross is simply getting too expensive for any and everyone to have a legitimate chance. Motocross...

Everything taken into consideration, I’m beginning to worry that Amateur Motocross is simply getting too expensive for any and everyone to have a legitimate chance. Motocross is a great sport and has forged many friendships, memories, and a relationship between my son and I that few will ever have outside of this sport. New bikes are 8k to 13k, which you really need at least 2 to make a real run at Loretta’s, Qualifiers are $1000 to $3000 weekends, maintenance on the bikes, gear and all the other expenses! This is rapidly becoming a sport for the wealthy and their kids. Dealers aren’t selling many bikes, manufacturers are struggling…. I guess what I’m asking is how can it be fixed? 

RealityCheck wrote:
Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator...

Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator to determine comparable 2025 dollars. 

My first new motocross bike was a 1975 Suzuki RM125. I paid $700 for it. That's $4,200 in 2025 dollars and much cheaper than new 125s. 

I purchased a new 1996 CR250 for $5,000.  That's $10,250 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2007 CRF450 for $7000. That's $10,800 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2019 KX450 for $8,600. That's $10,200 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

In 2000, my local track charged $25 for a practice day.  That's $46 in 2025 dollars and the same track now charges $45. 

I could go on, but I haven't really observed anything beyond normal inflation (beyond the outlier 1975 RM) in the world of motocross. 

Things like Loretta Lynn's doesn't really impact 99.99999% of riders, so it's statistically insignificant in the context of a discussion about the costs associated with motocross in general. 

That’s great data! I’d say that 1975 RM isn’t an outlier at all, I’d think that a 2025 air cooled, carbureted two stroke with drum brakes and primitive suspension would be right in line with the rest of your examples. Especially if that primitive 2025 bike sold in huge quantities like 125s did in the mid 70s. It’s a bummer that nobody builds a bike like that today..

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Cademx14 wrote:
Everything taken into consideration, I’m beginning to worry that Amateur Motocross is simply getting too expensive for any and everyone to have a legitimate chance. Motocross...

Everything taken into consideration, I’m beginning to worry that Amateur Motocross is simply getting too expensive for any and everyone to have a legitimate chance. Motocross is a great sport and has forged many friendships, memories, and a relationship between my son and I that few will ever have outside of this sport. New bikes are 8k to 13k, which you really need at least 2 to make a real run at Loretta’s, Qualifiers are $1000 to $3000 weekends, maintenance on the bikes, gear and all the other expenses! This is rapidly becoming a sport for the wealthy and their kids. Dealers aren’t selling many bikes, manufacturers are struggling…. I guess what I’m asking is how can it be fixed? 

RealityCheck wrote:
Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator...

Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator to determine comparable 2025 dollars. 

My first new motocross bike was a 1975 Suzuki RM125. I paid $700 for it. That's $4,200 in 2025 dollars and much cheaper than new 125s. 

I purchased a new 1996 CR250 for $5,000.  That's $10,250 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2007 CRF450 for $7000. That's $10,800 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2019 KX450 for $8,600. That's $10,200 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

In 2000, my local track charged $25 for a practice day.  That's $46 in 2025 dollars and the same track now charges $45. 

I could go on, but I haven't really observed anything beyond normal inflation (beyond the outlier 1975 RM) in the world of motocross. 

Things like Loretta Lynn's doesn't really impact 99.99999% of riders, so it's statistically insignificant in the context of a discussion about the costs associated with motocross in general. 

WestoftheElwha wrote:
What if you apply these conversions to food , rent , and gas …. I’d be interested to see how that comes out . I like the...

What if you apply these conversions to food , rent , and gas …. I’d be interested to see how that comes out . 

I like the way you applied simple math rather than subjective heaping on , 

Could you explain your math a bit ? 

I used the OTD prices I paid for the bikes listed.  I then used this calculator to convert those prices to 2025 dollars: https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

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Cademx14 wrote:
Everything taken into consideration, I’m beginning to worry that Amateur Motocross is simply getting too expensive for any and everyone to have a legitimate chance. Motocross...

Everything taken into consideration, I’m beginning to worry that Amateur Motocross is simply getting too expensive for any and everyone to have a legitimate chance. Motocross is a great sport and has forged many friendships, memories, and a relationship between my son and I that few will ever have outside of this sport. New bikes are 8k to 13k, which you really need at least 2 to make a real run at Loretta’s, Qualifiers are $1000 to $3000 weekends, maintenance on the bikes, gear and all the other expenses! This is rapidly becoming a sport for the wealthy and their kids. Dealers aren’t selling many bikes, manufacturers are struggling…. I guess what I’m asking is how can it be fixed? 

RealityCheck wrote:
Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator...

Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator to determine comparable 2025 dollars. 

My first new motocross bike was a 1975 Suzuki RM125. I paid $700 for it. That's $4,200 in 2025 dollars and much cheaper than new 125s. 

I purchased a new 1996 CR250 for $5,000.  That's $10,250 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2007 CRF450 for $7000. That's $10,800 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2019 KX450 for $8,600. That's $10,200 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

In 2000, my local track charged $25 for a practice day.  That's $46 in 2025 dollars and the same track now charges $45. 

I could go on, but I haven't really observed anything beyond normal inflation (beyond the outlier 1975 RM) in the world of motocross. 

Things like Loretta Lynn's doesn't really impact 99.99999% of riders, so it's statistically insignificant in the context of a discussion about the costs associated with motocross in general. 

profeshenal125 wrote:
Way off on the 96 prices. In 95 I bought a  92 etc cab chev pu with a 1 ton trans,  like new from Tx. For...

Way off on the 96 prices. In 95 I bought a  92 etc cab chev pu with a 1 ton trans,  like new from Tx. For 10,500 .  Today that’s 45-50k.   Anyone with a full time job could easily buy a new 125 threw the 90,s  living on there own.  Today extremely rare a young guy can buy a new 250f.  There is 5-10 hr 125,s out there for 3,200-3,800 .   That’s why the 125 class is so big.  

I simply posted what I paid for a new 1996 CR250R and used the Bureau Of Labor Statistics CPI (Consumer Price Index) calculator to determine 2025 equivalent dollars.  That's my experience with a particular bike.  If you've had a different experience, that's great, but you're citing a used vs new vehicle - one of which isn't even a dirt bike - so I'm not sure what you're getting at. 

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joekarter wrote:
Imagine if you could go down to the bike shop, lay out around 3 to 4 thousand for an air cooled drum brake 125 or 250...

Imagine if you could go down to the bike shop, lay out around 3 to 4 thousand for an air cooled drum brake 125 or 250.  Then once you go a bit familiar with it round up 25 buddies, find an empty field, throw up some ribbon and have fun.  I think sometimes we've all forgotten what made this sport so appealing.  It wasn't constantly groomed tracks, 60 horsepower bikes, 12" of travel, or 40' doubles.  Here's to hoping we (and some manufacturer(s) figure it out before our sport becomes a memory.

In today’s scenario one of your 25 “buddies” has a tip over, files a lawsuit against the landowner, you, the manufacturer of the motorcycle, the company the made the ribbons, the guy that cut the grass, and the field mouse that ran out in front of him. 

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quadzrulebro 6/5/2025 4:24am
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Cademx14 wrote:
Everything taken into consideration, I’m beginning to worry that Amateur Motocross is simply getting too expensive for any and everyone to have a legitimate chance. Motocross...

Everything taken into consideration, I’m beginning to worry that Amateur Motocross is simply getting too expensive for any and everyone to have a legitimate chance. Motocross is a great sport and has forged many friendships, memories, and a relationship between my son and I that few will ever have outside of this sport. New bikes are 8k to 13k, which you really need at least 2 to make a real run at Loretta’s, Qualifiers are $1000 to $3000 weekends, maintenance on the bikes, gear and all the other expenses! This is rapidly becoming a sport for the wealthy and their kids. Dealers aren’t selling many bikes, manufacturers are struggling…. I guess what I’m asking is how can it be fixed? 

RealityCheck wrote:
Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator...

Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator to determine comparable 2025 dollars. 

My first new motocross bike was a 1975 Suzuki RM125. I paid $700 for it. That's $4,200 in 2025 dollars and much cheaper than new 125s. 

I purchased a new 1996 CR250 for $5,000.  That's $10,250 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2007 CRF450 for $7000. That's $10,800 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2019 KX450 for $8,600. That's $10,200 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

In 2000, my local track charged $25 for a practice day.  That's $46 in 2025 dollars and the same track now charges $45. 

I could go on, but I haven't really observed anything beyond normal inflation (beyond the outlier 1975 RM) in the world of motocross. 

Things like Loretta Lynn's doesn't really impact 99.99999% of riders, so it's statistically insignificant in the context of a discussion about the costs associated with motocross in general. 

profeshenal125 wrote:
Way off on the 96 prices. In 95 I bought a  92 etc cab chev pu with a 1 ton trans,  like new from Tx. For...

Way off on the 96 prices. In 95 I bought a  92 etc cab chev pu with a 1 ton trans,  like new from Tx. For 10,500 .  Today that’s 45-50k.   Anyone with a full time job could easily buy a new 125 threw the 90,s  living on there own.  Today extremely rare a young guy can buy a new 250f.  There is 5-10 hr 125,s out there for 3,200-3,800 .   That’s why the 125 class is so big.  

Where would one go to find these huge 125 class races?  I haven’t seen that phenomenon at the tracks I race.

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Our local track 15 min out of town . You can race as many classes as you want for 50 bucks.  Yet people around here bitch...

Our local track 15 min out of town . You can race as many classes as you want for 50 bucks.  Yet people around here bitch about the added 10 bucks at the gate.  Haha.  200 to ride the season.   Wi. rapids probably the best sand riding park in the country.  Deep sand with hills threw the trees, a sx track ,  hundreds of acres of cool trails threw the woods .  Like the bikes cut a 5 ft deep lane in areas, a tunnel of trees.  On yt a kx250f rode wo in top gears on the faster trails.  Crazy kid.  Wed it’s 10 bucks, Thurs to sun 20.  2 exits n of town is a hot spot sand track , free riding.  A lot of people around here ride alot .  I won,t be any time soon tho.  Doing laundry I see I had a msg. The f, ers did it again my insurance denied the epidural back injection.  It’s a disaster that co denied it . So the insurance I told them to use will deny it also.  I tried to cancel my insurance but I hv to call market place.  U know how f, d up they r.  I did hv a nerve blocker injection today on my shoulder. My arm & hand is numb so that’s weird.  I hv a epidural injection on my neck too scheduled where my back injection is.  My destroyed everything Real good . Trying to raise the dough to race .  2 1/2 inches shorter in the 1st 2 to 2 1/2 yrs working for the 1099 Chicago Russian mob.  It’s like entering the center of a f14 tornado. The 20 to 42 hr straight running in massive shit & mainly in the north east for months straight 7 days a week.  Calls to Eastern Europe to get 3 14 hr shifts in a row.  You better hang onto your ass because your going to run. Then you hv no ass left it’s kinda of funny . You literally hv no ass cheeks you run them rt off.  Haha . But this pain now is NO way worth it.   I had a massive amount of adventures & Super Crazy fun times tho.  Dabro- good, times that Serbian . Haha

Edited for clarity - thanks Perplexity:

Wisconsin Rapids is probably the best sand riding park in the country. It has deep sand with hills through the trees, a supercross track, and hundreds of acres of cool trails winding through the woods. In some places, the bikes have cut a five-foot-deep lane—a real tunnel of trees. I saw a video on YouTube of a KX250F riding wide open in top gear on the faster trails. Crazy kid.
On Wednesdays, it’s $10 to ride; from Thursday to Sunday, it’s $20. Two exits north of town, there’s a popular sand track where you can ride for free. A lot of people around here ride a lot, but I won’t be joining them any time soon.
While doing laundry, I saw I had a message. The insurance company denied my epidural back injection again. It’s a disaster. The other insurance I told them to use will probably deny it too. I tried to cancel my insurance, but I have to call the marketplace, and you know how messed up they are.
Today, I did get a nerve blocker injection in my shoulder. Now my arm and hand are numb, which feels weird. I also have an epidural injection scheduled for my neck, near where my back injection is supposed to go. My body is pretty wrecked at this point. I’m trying to raise the money to race.
I lost 2.5 inches in height in the first two to two and a half years working for the 1099 Chicago Russian mob. It was like being in the middle of an F-14 tornado—working 20 to 42 hours straight, mostly in the Northeast, for months at a time, seven days a week. There were calls to Eastern Europe to arrange three 14-hour shifts in a row. You had to hang on for dear life because you were going to run yourself ragged. After a while, you literally have no butt left—you run it right off! It’s kind of funny, but this pain now is definitely not worth it.
Still, I had a ton of adventures and some super crazy fun times. “Dabro”—that’s Serbian for “good times.”

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profeshenal125 6/5/2025 7:45am
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RealityCheck wrote:
Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator...

Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator to determine comparable 2025 dollars. 

My first new motocross bike was a 1975 Suzuki RM125. I paid $700 for it. That's $4,200 in 2025 dollars and much cheaper than new 125s. 

I purchased a new 1996 CR250 for $5,000.  That's $10,250 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2007 CRF450 for $7000. That's $10,800 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2019 KX450 for $8,600. That's $10,200 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

In 2000, my local track charged $25 for a practice day.  That's $46 in 2025 dollars and the same track now charges $45. 

I could go on, but I haven't really observed anything beyond normal inflation (beyond the outlier 1975 RM) in the world of motocross. 

Things like Loretta Lynn's doesn't really impact 99.99999% of riders, so it's statistically insignificant in the context of a discussion about the costs associated with motocross in general. 

profeshenal125 wrote:
Way off on the 96 prices. In 95 I bought a  92 etc cab chev pu with a 1 ton trans,  like new from Tx. For...

Way off on the 96 prices. In 95 I bought a  92 etc cab chev pu with a 1 ton trans,  like new from Tx. For 10,500 .  Today that’s 45-50k.   Anyone with a full time job could easily buy a new 125 threw the 90,s  living on there own.  Today extremely rare a young guy can buy a new 250f.  There is 5-10 hr 125,s out there for 3,200-3,800 .   That’s why the 125 class is so big.  

quadzrulebro wrote:

Where would one go to find these huge 125 class races?  I haven’t seen that phenomenon at the tracks I race.

Some Wi. Tracks last sat I don’t think it hit 45 degrees 26 on the gate , sun was lower, Aztalan usually 28. Millville 24-34, red Bud 30+, local non ama track 38. The 2-st class is sometimes bigger now. Last week it was 33 with rain & wind during the week . So no one is riding in that & they still show up & race.  Rent in 90 was 260 2 bedroom, 99 440 . Now 2k .  Aprox 10 yrs ago a local rider got 4th ovr all at LL he got no sponsor help in 25+. 1 of the only riders to hv 250 2-st vids on yt .  A Wi. Rider has more in sponsorship money than a early 90,s factory 125 rider.  

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ktmracer726 6/5/2025 8:17am
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RealityCheck wrote:
Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator...

Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator to determine comparable 2025 dollars. 

My first new motocross bike was a 1975 Suzuki RM125. I paid $700 for it. That's $4,200 in 2025 dollars and much cheaper than new 125s. 

I purchased a new 1996 CR250 for $5,000.  That's $10,250 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2007 CRF450 for $7000. That's $10,800 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2019 KX450 for $8,600. That's $10,200 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

In 2000, my local track charged $25 for a practice day.  That's $46 in 2025 dollars and the same track now charges $45. 

I could go on, but I haven't really observed anything beyond normal inflation (beyond the outlier 1975 RM) in the world of motocross. 

Things like Loretta Lynn's doesn't really impact 99.99999% of riders, so it's statistically insignificant in the context of a discussion about the costs associated with motocross in general. 

profeshenal125 wrote:
Way off on the 96 prices. In 95 I bought a  92 etc cab chev pu with a 1 ton trans,  like new from Tx. For...

Way off on the 96 prices. In 95 I bought a  92 etc cab chev pu with a 1 ton trans,  like new from Tx. For 10,500 .  Today that’s 45-50k.   Anyone with a full time job could easily buy a new 125 threw the 90,s  living on there own.  Today extremely rare a young guy can buy a new 250f.  There is 5-10 hr 125,s out there for 3,200-3,800 .   That’s why the 125 class is so big.  

quadzrulebro wrote:

Where would one go to find these huge 125 class races?  I haven’t seen that phenomenon at the tracks I race.

The 125 B/C class is one of the largest classes every weekend. Open to all ages. It's mostly kids though. 

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profeshenal125 6/5/2025 8:26am
6/5/2025 8:26am
profeshenal125 wrote:
Way off on the 96 prices. In 95 I bought a  92 etc cab chev pu with a 1 ton trans,  like new from Tx. For...

Way off on the 96 prices. In 95 I bought a  92 etc cab chev pu with a 1 ton trans,  like new from Tx. For 10,500 .  Today that’s 45-50k.   Anyone with a full time job could easily buy a new 125 threw the 90,s  living on there own.  Today extremely rare a young guy can buy a new 250f.  There is 5-10 hr 125,s out there for 3,200-3,800 .   That’s why the 125 class is so big.  

quadzrulebro wrote:

Where would one go to find these huge 125 class races?  I haven’t seen that phenomenon at the tracks I race.

ktmracer726 wrote:

The 125 B/C class is one of the largest classes every weekend. Open to all ages. It's mostly kids though. 

125 b/c lap times are close to pro sport at LL too.  The local riders are real fast too. 

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Hammer 663s 6/5/2025 9:09am
6/5/2025 9:09am
RealityCheck wrote:
Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator...

Some points of reference based on a few of the new bikes I've purchased over the years.  I used the Bureau of Labor Statistics CPI calculator to determine comparable 2025 dollars. 

My first new motocross bike was a 1975 Suzuki RM125. I paid $700 for it. That's $4,200 in 2025 dollars and much cheaper than new 125s. 

I purchased a new 1996 CR250 for $5,000.  That's $10,250 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2007 CRF450 for $7000. That's $10,800 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

I purchased a new 2019 KX450 for $8,600. That's $10,200 in 2025 dollars and tracks with current 450 prices.

In 2000, my local track charged $25 for a practice day.  That's $46 in 2025 dollars and the same track now charges $45. 

I could go on, but I haven't really observed anything beyond normal inflation (beyond the outlier 1975 RM) in the world of motocross. 

Things like Loretta Lynn's doesn't really impact 99.99999% of riders, so it's statistically insignificant in the context of a discussion about the costs associated with motocross in general. 

profeshenal125 wrote:
Way off on the 96 prices. In 95 I bought a  92 etc cab chev pu with a 1 ton trans,  like new from Tx. For...

Way off on the 96 prices. In 95 I bought a  92 etc cab chev pu with a 1 ton trans,  like new from Tx. For 10,500 .  Today that’s 45-50k.   Anyone with a full time job could easily buy a new 125 threw the 90,s  living on there own.  Today extremely rare a young guy can buy a new 250f.  There is 5-10 hr 125,s out there for 3,200-3,800 .   That’s why the 125 class is so big.  

RealityCheck wrote:
I simply posted what I paid for a new 1996 CR250R and used the Bureau Of Labor Statistics CPI (Consumer Price Index) calculator to determine 2025...

I simply posted what I paid for a new 1996 CR250R and used the Bureau Of Labor Statistics CPI (Consumer Price Index) calculator to determine 2025 equivalent dollars.  That's my experience with a particular bike.  If you've had a different experience, that's great, but you're citing a used vs new vehicle - one of which isn't even a dirt bike - so I'm not sure what you're getting at. 

Almost no-one is ever sure what Profesh is getting at. You are not alone.

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