Eli out at Yamaha?

5/28/2025 5:40am

Which ones? Educate us

Amitriptyline, diphenhydramine, oxybutynin, chlorpromazine, clozapine, quetiapine, topiramate, zonisamide, clonidine, fentanyl, morphine, hydrocodone, oxycodone, botulinum... and many more!

Uh......... oxycodone, hydrocodone, fentanyl help with motocross performance? Seems to be a disconnect on what we're talking about here. LoL when the guy said Haiden was...

Uh......... oxycodone, hydrocodone, fentanyl help with motocross performance? Seems to be a disconnect on what we're talking about here. LoL when the guy said Haiden was doping did you think he meant getting high? Lmao morphine 

Maybe he rides faster when he's high, or maybe he's managing pain.

4
5/28/2025 5:42am

Gotta love being good enough your detractors assume you are cheating

@EMoney975's definitely cheating in Vital MX Fantasy! 

1
BARGE
Posts
52
Joined
2/13/2025
Location
Scranton, PA US
5/28/2025 5:43am

SSR Motorsports SR450S

cable clutch 😏   jk

6
72bu
Posts
129
Joined
6/22/2022
Location
IL US
5/28/2025 5:54am Edited Date/Time 5/28/2025 5:55am
72bu wrote:

Even if Deegan is using PED’s, you still have to put the work in. It’s not magical. Otherwise everyone would be riding as good as him.

Goon645 wrote:
Yeah the issue is the last 10min of the moto when his cheating allows him to maintain effort further into the moto than the competition who...

Yeah the issue is the last 10min of the moto when his cheating allows him to maintain effort further into the moto than the competition who aren’t - if you think nobody else is training as hard as him and it’s as simple as that then all the best to ya.

The top guys are all training hard. Everyone’s body chemistry is different. You can have to athletes training together doing the exact same workout and one will always excel over the other one. It doesn’t mean the one that is better is cheating. Deegan obviously found what works for him.

9

The Shop

5/28/2025 6:09am
72bu wrote:

Even if Deegan is using PED’s, you still have to put the work in. It’s not magical. Otherwise everyone would be riding as good as him.

Goon645 wrote:
Yeah the issue is the last 10min of the moto when his cheating allows him to maintain effort further into the moto than the competition who...

Yeah the issue is the last 10min of the moto when his cheating allows him to maintain effort further into the moto than the competition who aren’t - if you think nobody else is training as hard as him and it’s as simple as that then all the best to ya.

Now its just definitive that hes cheating? LoL ok

2
5/28/2025 6:13am
72bu wrote:

Even if Deegan is using PED’s, you still have to put the work in. It’s not magical. Otherwise everyone would be riding as good as him.

Goon645 wrote:
Yeah the issue is the last 10min of the moto when his cheating allows him to maintain effort further into the moto than the competition who...

Yeah the issue is the last 10min of the moto when his cheating allows him to maintain effort further into the moto than the competition who aren’t - if you think nobody else is training as hard as him and it’s as simple as that then all the best to ya.

72bu wrote:
The top guys are all training hard. Everyone’s body chemistry is different. You can have to athletes training together doing the exact same workout and one...

The top guys are all training hard. Everyone’s body chemistry is different. You can have to athletes training together doing the exact same workout and one will always excel over the other one. It doesn’t mean the one that is better is cheating. Deegan obviously found what works for him.

Thank you. I'm genetically gifted as far as putting muscle on. I've done bb training since I was 18. Take your average lifter and we do identical workouts and identical diets and he wont get the results I do. Shoot, I can eat less protein and not work out as hard as the average guy and I'll still have more muscle than him. Just the genetics I'm born with. This couldn't possibly be the case with Haiden? He must be cheating?

6
2
45ACP
Posts
170
Joined
1/24/2018
Location
Friendswood, TX US
5/28/2025 6:23am

There are some real fucking idiots posting in this thread, throwing out blind accusations just because the kid is beating his competition. Yall are ridiculous. 

The title of this thread is "Eli out at Yamaha" yet somehow the last 3-4 pages turned into Deegan must be cheating. Some even stating it as fact (Goon645 is a dumbass). Vital has hit a new low....

12
1
EMoney975
Posts
4
Joined
12/31/2023
Location
Ann Arbor, MI US
Fantasy
5/28/2025 6:32am

Gotta love being good enough your detractors assume you are cheating

@EMoney975's definitely cheating in Vital MX Fantasy! 

Hey hey,

This is my first mention in the message boards.  Gotta love it..... 

10
5/28/2025 6:37am

Deegan is cheating because he’s strong throughout the motos? Jo stayed relatively close to him, so he must be cheating too. Chase last year never broke a sweat when charging through the pack, add him to the list. Eli looked like he got off the spin bike after 5 mins, and not off the track after 30+2, has to be PED’s at 32 years old. 

what a ridiculous statement. (I haven’t even seen the original comment but I’ve seen enough) 

13
1
GrapeApe
Posts
8746
Joined
6/7/2010
Location
Mc Kinney, TX US
5/28/2025 6:37am

I guess UpTite gave in and deleted his posts

6
OwenJakes
Posts
1668
Joined
6/30/2023
Location
sebree, KY US
5/28/2025 6:41am

I think the biggest issue is that deegan is much more efficient with his energy than the others. I have tons more “fitness” than some guys I know but they can just ride longer because they have more efficient technique. The answer is not always “drugs”😐

6
2
Steve Austin
Posts
155
Joined
4/21/2023
Location
Hell Yeah, CA US
5/28/2025 6:47am
GrapeApe wrote:

I guess UpTite gave in and deleted his posts

Which one?  I'll see myself out...

4
Press516
Posts
5548
Joined
9/11/2018
Location
Gilbert, AZ US
Fantasy
5/28/2025 6:52am Edited Date/Time 5/28/2025 6:53am
OwenJakes wrote:
I think the biggest issue is that deegan is much more efficient with his energy than the others. I have tons more “fitness” than some guys...

I think the biggest issue is that deegan is much more efficient with his energy than the others. I have tons more “fitness” than some guys I know but they can just ride longer because they have more efficient technique. The answer is not always “drugs”😐

This is often overlooked…. I was the other side of the coin.  I didn’t work as hard as my training buddies, but could always outlast them.  I was simply more efficient on the bike and could go deeper in the moto with less effort.  

We really need some Eli news to get this back on track…

5
Goon645
Posts
358
Joined
10/3/2019
Location
Pyramid Valley AQ
Fantasy
5/28/2025 6:54am
OwenJakes wrote:
I think the biggest issue is that deegan is much more efficient with his energy than the others. I have tons more “fitness” than some guys...

I think the biggest issue is that deegan is much more efficient with his energy than the others. I have tons more “fitness” than some guys I know but they can just ride longer because they have more efficient technique. The answer is not always “drugs”😐

Every time I want to stop replying one of you says something dumber than the last in defense of this kid. Calling Deegan energy efficient is truly dumber than saying "hey man I am just super strong dude, I cant help it, maybe Deegan is like me", bro you are a literal nobody in global sports with no athletic achievements of note, like the rest of us, you are not special because you can bench more than your neighbor ffs, and not even Deegans fans will deny he bulldogs the bike unlike Jett who one could call "efficient". Now I have to try argue the nuances of handling a bike for the last 10 minutes in Zone 5 to dudes who likely cant even clear their local track table top. Carry on, Eli signs with Bajaj and Deegan gets his mutant ass handed to him in 2026 and  you can all cry more about your precious Deegan whilst they literally use breaking the law has a PR stunt and then have smooth brains falling over themselves to defend him as some upstanding competitor.

15
GrapeApe
Posts
8746
Joined
6/7/2010
Location
Mc Kinney, TX US
5/28/2025 6:56am
OwenJakes wrote:
I think the biggest issue is that deegan is much more efficient with his energy than the others. I have tons more “fitness” than some guys...

I think the biggest issue is that deegan is much more efficient with his energy than the others. I have tons more “fitness” than some guys I know but they can just ride longer because they have more efficient technique. The answer is not always “drugs”😐

Goon645 wrote:
Every time I want to stop replying one of you says something dumber than the last in defense of this kid. Calling Deegan energy efficient is...

Every time I want to stop replying one of you says something dumber than the last in defense of this kid. Calling Deegan energy efficient is truly dumber than saying "hey man I am just super strong dude, I cant help it, maybe Deegan is like me", bro you are a literal nobody in global sports with no athletic achievements of note, like the rest of us, you are not special because you can bench more than your neighbor ffs, and not even Deegans fans will deny he bulldogs the bike unlike Jett who one could call "efficient". Now I have to try argue the nuances of handling a bike for the last 10 minutes in Zone 5 to dudes who likely cant even clear their local track table top. Carry on, Eli signs with Bajaj and Deegan gets his mutant ass handed to him in 2026 and  you can all cry more about your precious Deegan whilst they literally use breaking the law has a PR stunt and then have smooth brains falling over themselves to defend him as some upstanding competitor.

Are you okay?

12
scootch
Posts
608
Joined
1/24/2017
Location
Fort Worth, TX US
5/28/2025 7:08am
Rickyisms wrote:

So, any rumblings of Eli’s plans for 2026?

After seeing Prado a minute back, he's decided to head to Europe and snag a couple MXGP titles 

4
1
soggy
Posts
8464
Joined
12/3/2018
Location
UT US
5/28/2025 7:08am
OwenJakes wrote:
I think the biggest issue is that deegan is much more efficient with his energy than the others. I have tons more “fitness” than some guys...

I think the biggest issue is that deegan is much more efficient with his energy than the others. I have tons more “fitness” than some guys I know but they can just ride longer because they have more efficient technique. The answer is not always “drugs”😐

Goon645 wrote:
Every time I want to stop replying one of you says something dumber than the last in defense of this kid. Calling Deegan energy efficient is...

Every time I want to stop replying one of you says something dumber than the last in defense of this kid. Calling Deegan energy efficient is truly dumber than saying "hey man I am just super strong dude, I cant help it, maybe Deegan is like me", bro you are a literal nobody in global sports with no athletic achievements of note, like the rest of us, you are not special because you can bench more than your neighbor ffs, and not even Deegans fans will deny he bulldogs the bike unlike Jett who one could call "efficient". Now I have to try argue the nuances of handling a bike for the last 10 minutes in Zone 5 to dudes who likely cant even clear their local track table top. Carry on, Eli signs with Bajaj and Deegan gets his mutant ass handed to him in 2026 and  you can all cry more about your precious Deegan whilst they literally use breaking the law has a PR stunt and then have smooth brains falling over themselves to defend him as some upstanding competitor.

GrapeApe wrote:

Are you okay?

He started off okay with the haiden/ Jett efficiency comparison and then the train fell off the rails and sank to the bottom of the ocean. 

6
5/28/2025 7:22am
OwenJakes wrote:
I think the biggest issue is that deegan is much more efficient with his energy than the others. I have tons more “fitness” than some guys...

I think the biggest issue is that deegan is much more efficient with his energy than the others. I have tons more “fitness” than some guys I know but they can just ride longer because they have more efficient technique. The answer is not always “drugs”😐

Goon645 wrote:
Every time I want to stop replying one of you says something dumber than the last in defense of this kid. Calling Deegan energy efficient is...

Every time I want to stop replying one of you says something dumber than the last in defense of this kid. Calling Deegan energy efficient is truly dumber than saying "hey man I am just super strong dude, I cant help it, maybe Deegan is like me", bro you are a literal nobody in global sports with no athletic achievements of note, like the rest of us, you are not special because you can bench more than your neighbor ffs, and not even Deegans fans will deny he bulldogs the bike unlike Jett who one could call "efficient". Now I have to try argue the nuances of handling a bike for the last 10 minutes in Zone 5 to dudes who likely cant even clear their local track table top. Carry on, Eli signs with Bajaj and Deegan gets his mutant ass handed to him in 2026 and  you can all cry more about your precious Deegan whilst they literally use breaking the law has a PR stunt and then have smooth brains falling over themselves to defend him as some upstanding competitor.

Yes, please stop responding. Nobody said they were a world class athlete. Simply pointing out the differences in people genetically. But you're right. All men are created equal. If any of us were given the same programs as Deegan, the same resources since our youth, we would have all turned out exactly like him. We all have it in us to be one of the fastest riders on Earth. 

1
GrapeApe
Posts
8746
Joined
6/7/2010
Location
Mc Kinney, TX US
5/28/2025 7:24am Edited Date/Time 5/28/2025 7:25am
Goon645 wrote:
Every time I want to stop replying one of you says something dumber than the last in defense of this kid. Calling Deegan energy efficient is...

Every time I want to stop replying one of you says something dumber than the last in defense of this kid. Calling Deegan energy efficient is truly dumber than saying "hey man I am just super strong dude, I cant help it, maybe Deegan is like me", bro you are a literal nobody in global sports with no athletic achievements of note, like the rest of us, you are not special because you can bench more than your neighbor ffs, and not even Deegans fans will deny he bulldogs the bike unlike Jett who one could call "efficient". Now I have to try argue the nuances of handling a bike for the last 10 minutes in Zone 5 to dudes who likely cant even clear their local track table top. Carry on, Eli signs with Bajaj and Deegan gets his mutant ass handed to him in 2026 and  you can all cry more about your precious Deegan whilst they literally use breaking the law has a PR stunt and then have smooth brains falling over themselves to defend him as some upstanding competitor.

GrapeApe wrote:

Are you okay?

soggy wrote:

He started off okay with the haiden/ Jett efficiency comparison and then the train fell off the rails and sank to the bottom of the ocean. 

I suspect 'roid rage . . .

2
TAUTOG
Posts
1563
Joined
1/27/2023
Location
Mohrsville, PA US
5/28/2025 7:26am
GrapeApe wrote:

I guess UpTite gave in and deleted his posts

I think its funny he still posts after being outed as a wannabe ex pro who shares an account. He's got all the top secret info!

1
1
davistld01
Posts
9202
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Springfield, MO US
5/28/2025 7:47am

Back on original topic...to my way of thinking anyway, since Star is basically saying keeping Tomac is an affordability issue with Webb & Deegan on line, they ought to offer Eli a contract with a cut in salary but with big win bonuses. That would keep Tomac on a bike he looks to have totally bonded with, and have a tremendous marketing platform with Tomac, Webb, J. Coop, Deegan & Davies on the blue bikes. 

stewie94
Posts
4647
Joined
2/25/2013
Location
La Plata, MD US
5/28/2025 7:57am
Rickyisms wrote:

So, any rumblings of Eli’s plans for 2026?

ima just repost this cause errybody in here still going fucking crazy 

IMG 9683 1
5
3
mvd61
Posts
1193
Joined
10/15/2021
Location
Brandon, SD US
5/28/2025 7:58am
OwenJakes wrote:
I think the biggest issue is that deegan is much more efficient with his energy than the others. I have tons more “fitness” than some guys...

I think the biggest issue is that deegan is much more efficient with his energy than the others. I have tons more “fitness” than some guys I know but they can just ride longer because they have more efficient technique. The answer is not always “drugs”😐

Goon645 wrote:
Every time I want to stop replying one of you says something dumber than the last in defense of this kid. Calling Deegan energy efficient is...

Every time I want to stop replying one of you says something dumber than the last in defense of this kid. Calling Deegan energy efficient is truly dumber than saying "hey man I am just super strong dude, I cant help it, maybe Deegan is like me", bro you are a literal nobody in global sports with no athletic achievements of note, like the rest of us, you are not special because you can bench more than your neighbor ffs, and not even Deegans fans will deny he bulldogs the bike unlike Jett who one could call "efficient". Now I have to try argue the nuances of handling a bike for the last 10 minutes in Zone 5 to dudes who likely cant even clear their local track table top. Carry on, Eli signs with Bajaj and Deegan gets his mutant ass handed to him in 2026 and  you can all cry more about your precious Deegan whilst they literally use breaking the law has a PR stunt and then have smooth brains falling over themselves to defend him as some upstanding competitor.

So you can’t bench 315?

1
5/28/2025 7:59am
davistld01 wrote:
Back on original topic...to my way of thinking anyway, since Star is basically saying keeping Tomac is an affordability issue with Webb & Deegan on line...

Back on original topic...to my way of thinking anyway, since Star is basically saying keeping Tomac is an affordability issue with Webb & Deegan on line, they ought to offer Eli a contract with a cut in salary but with big win bonuses. That would keep Tomac on a bike he looks to have totally bonded with, and have a tremendous marketing platform with Tomac, Webb, J. Coop, Deegan & Davies on the blue bikes. 

Dark said on his Vital podcast last night he had insider info Eli is already signed to a team for '26

3
1
5/28/2025 8:03am

I still say ET to KTM is NOT happening. If Yamaha truly doesn't squeak a deal in the 11th hour, there will be so much hate towards Yamaha. Yamaha needs Tomac more than they need Webb, Cooper, and Craig..

3
20
disbanded
Posts
6866
Joined
8/26/2007
Location
Evergreen, CO US
5/28/2025 8:04am
Uh......... oxycodone, hydrocodone, fentanyl help with motocross performance? Seems to be a disconnect on what we're talking about here. LoL when the guy said Haiden was...

Uh......... oxycodone, hydrocodone, fentanyl help with motocross performance? Seems to be a disconnect on what we're talking about here. LoL when the guy said Haiden was doping did you think he meant getting high? Lmao morphine 

He puts every question he gets and the replies are all sent through AI first.  He probably doesn't even read what he posts, just copy pasta and move onto the next idiotic post.

1
stewie94
Posts
4647
Joined
2/25/2013
Location
La Plata, MD US
5/28/2025 8:10am
HonDawg17 wrote:
I still say ET to KTM is NOT happening. If Yamaha truly doesn't squeak a deal in the 11th hour, there will be so much hate...

I still say ET to KTM is NOT happening. If Yamaha truly doesn't squeak a deal in the 11th hour, there will be so much hate towards Yamaha. Yamaha needs Tomac more than they need Webb, Cooper, and Craig..

yal is a bunch of fucking dummies 😂😂 for the the last time , Christian is not the issue , the main issue is the terms tht Eli is looking for , it’s going to interfere wht they are trying to do with deegs , take deegs out the picture , star is just goona run Eli , coop & j coop for the next couple of yrs 

10
5/28/2025 9:35am
HonDawg17 wrote:
I still say ET to KTM is NOT happening. If Yamaha truly doesn't squeak a deal in the 11th hour, there will be so much hate...

I still say ET to KTM is NOT happening. If Yamaha truly doesn't squeak a deal in the 11th hour, there will be so much hate towards Yamaha. Yamaha needs Tomac more than they need Webb, Cooper, and Craig..

I know it sounds a little "out there". Especially after Webb just won the SX Title. But again, the Top 2 contenders were out injured. I mean no disrespect to Webb, he's a fighter. But jeez the guy can't ride outdoors for whatever reason on a 450. I hope that changes for him this summer.

2
8
Racerman967
Posts
665
Joined
1/1/2019
Location
Littleton, CO US
5/28/2025 9:46am
HonDawg17 wrote:
I still say ET to KTM is NOT happening. If Yamaha truly doesn't squeak a deal in the 11th hour, there will be so much hate...

I still say ET to KTM is NOT happening. If Yamaha truly doesn't squeak a deal in the 11th hour, there will be so much hate towards Yamaha. Yamaha needs Tomac more than they need Webb, Cooper, and Craig..

HonDawg17 wrote:
I know it sounds a little "out there". Especially after Webb just won the SX Title. But again, the Top 2 contenders were out injured. I...

I know it sounds a little "out there". Especially after Webb just won the SX Title. But again, the Top 2 contenders were out injured. I mean no disrespect to Webb, he's a fighter. But jeez the guy can't ride outdoors for whatever reason on a 450. I hope that changes for him this summer.

Web has said he does not care about outdoors as you make way more money in SX. He will finish 6th in point but his main goal is not getting hurt.

1
1
yardsailor
Posts
412
Joined
1/3/2024
Location
Nerstrand, MN US
5/28/2025 9:57am
HonDawg17 wrote:
I still say ET to KTM is NOT happening. If Yamaha truly doesn't squeak a deal in the 11th hour, there will be so much hate...

I still say ET to KTM is NOT happening. If Yamaha truly doesn't squeak a deal in the 11th hour, there will be so much hate towards Yamaha. Yamaha needs Tomac more than they need Webb, Cooper, and Craig..

HonDawg17 wrote:
I know it sounds a little "out there". Especially after Webb just won the SX Title. But again, the Top 2 contenders were out injured. I...

I know it sounds a little "out there". Especially after Webb just won the SX Title. But again, the Top 2 contenders were out injured. I mean no disrespect to Webb, he's a fighter. But jeez the guy can't ride outdoors for whatever reason on a 450. I hope that changes for him this summer.

Are you for real? Re-read what you wrote!

Webb cant ride a 450 outdoors? Him easily being a top ten rider on an international level is legend. He is a stud. Just because he is not banging bars with Chase or Eli last week doesnt mean he should just never ride again. The guy is a machine on 2 wheels, a great dad and a great husband. 

Its people who write shit like this that is concerning. 

I hope if/when you have children that you are a little bit more forgiving. 

All these riders making a main are studs. And the ones who dont make a main are studs for attempting to. 

Let me know where you ride and when so I can come critique you!   Actually I wouldnt do that.  Id just be happy that youre riding and healthy and able to afford the sport you love. 

Stay safe brother!

10
9

Post a reply to: Eli out at Yamaha?

The Latest