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My thoughts are it would be a good thing if there wasn't any major revisions from any company and they just refined what they have. After Keefer talking about how good the 2008 model Honda he tested against the newer ones was, it would make sense to stick with a working model and fine tune it. KTM has good bikes right now and could be better with refinement over the next few years with no major revisions.
That was intended to be sarcastic. When the story about a years worth of inventory hit, the story was that there would be a fire sale to get that inventory moved out so it wouldn't be competing with new models.
I never saw an over abundance of any year models anywhere in North Florida or South Georgia. It has looked like business as usual. Normal inventories, normal prices, just normal.
Not sure why your post struck such a nerve. The group is telling dealers they’re cutting production approximately 70% on each brand, some more some less. If Austrian bikes is how you pay your bills, and you have to make the same net profit for the year with 1/4 the inventory, simple logic says you’re going to do everything you can to gross 4x per unit or start looking at other lines if you haven’t already.
KTM NA probably won’t be rebating heavily, because why would you be paying to move the units when the unit count is so low and there will be enough people demanding the latest model, and you haven’t been profitable in several years using that tactic?
The issue with the basic thumbs up/down is that it’s impossible to differentiate between users who ‘don’t like’ what is said and those who ‘disagree’ with what is said.
But yeah, exactly my thinking. Simple economics. It won’t necessarily need to be driven by HQ, it’ll be decided by a dealer when he’s got 2 bikes and 10 buyers. It happened in 2020/21.
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Global economics really aren't that simple. For starters, in '20/'21 KTM and its competitors all had the same supply chain and inventory issues and all of them had dealers that jacked up the prices. Obviously that is not the case in '25. KTM is not going to be able to move units at $15,000 just because there are less of them.
Here's how it works on model years: units manufactured in one year are "model year" units of next year. Thus, anything manufactured in '25 will be a '26.
The big question is this: What does it mean to "manufacture" a bike? Some OEMs might consider the time of manufacture as the time they assign it a VIN. If there are lots of bikes manufactured in 2024 that have no VINs stamped on them yet, I would not be surprised.
No, but small town dealers who were discounting bikes to make the sales now might have fewer bikes available than they have customers for, so the bike that was discounted $1500 might be up $1500 from SRP.
Resulting in exactly what I said- increased bike prices.. Exactly the scenario in 20/21.
In the uk we saw £2k bikes selling like hot cakes for £4k! It was bonkers! I personally know a guy who paid £3k for a dogged 2001 YZ125! Thing realistically is worth a grand, max!
Info is available on their website. Appears to be BNG.
https://www.ktm.com/en-us/models/motocross.html
Yep. Plus it looks like the FE gets a full Akra system instead of just the slip on, from the pic on MXA.
FE won't be released until later this year but the MXA pic is just a stock 450 outfitted with all the Powerparts you can buy. Exhaust, wheels, suspension, etc.
That picture of what MXA label as the 2026 FE has a different shock. The KTM website doesn't have 26 FE models. I think MXA labeled the image incorrectly and that is just a 2026 with all the KTM Power Parts.
Edit: ^^typing at the same time and beat me to it.
Oh, gotcha. I wondered why it wasn’t on the KTM site…
They really need to make the connectivity to your phone standard like the Yamaha.
This guy doesnt economics much.
You know other companies make similar models right?
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