New Air Force One

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That’s not a great look.  I mean, that’s one kick ass bird, but it might be best that Trump respectfully decline.  Accepting gifts from foreign countries is typically frowned upon.  And that’s one helluva gift!

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5/12/2025 7:16am

Well, we all need to realize that this “gift” is only an issue because…

There’s  NOTHING THAT BOEING CAN’T FUCK UP!😂

The New VC25B (there’s 2 of them) “Air Force 1” aircraft are a typical Boeing shit show. The price…and schedule…are an ongoing saga. 

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TeamGreen wrote:
Well, we all need to realize that this “gift” is only an issue because…There’s  NOTHING THAT BOEING CAN’T FUCK UP!😂The New VC25B (there’s 2 of them)...

Well, we all need to realize that this “gift” is only an issue because…

There’s  NOTHING THAT BOEING CAN’T FUCK UP!😂

The New VC25B (there’s 2 of them) “Air Force 1” aircraft are a typical Boeing shit show. The price…and schedule…are an ongoing saga. 

100% true. But I think we agree the optics aren’t great.  Plus L3Harris will require months if not years to retrofit it to DoD standards, which will be immediately removed once Trump is no longer CinC.  

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TeamGreen wrote:
Well, we all need to realize that this “gift” is only an issue because…There’s  NOTHING THAT BOEING CAN’T FUCK UP!😂The New VC25B (there’s 2 of them)...

Well, we all need to realize that this “gift” is only an issue because…

There’s  NOTHING THAT BOEING CAN’T FUCK UP!😂

The New VC25B (there’s 2 of them) “Air Force 1” aircraft are a typical Boeing shit show. The price…and schedule…are an ongoing saga. 

LoudLove wrote:
100% true. But I think we agree the optics aren’t great.  Plus L3Harris will require months if not years to retrofit it to DoD standards, which...

100% true. But I think we agree the optics aren’t great.  Plus L3Harris will require months if not years to retrofit it to DoD standards, which will be immediately removed once Trump is no longer CinC.  

Well, we used their F15Q’s to develop our F15EX…they got “cut off” on the really good stuff and for reasons that Qatar is trying to “fix”…so, there’s a bit going on here. They’re trying to buy their way back into our favor…? Fine. I’ll take it. 

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Just an observation, but if the Dems did this, this thread would already have 20 pages by now

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TeamGreen wrote:
Well, we all need to realize that this “gift” is only an issue because…There’s  NOTHING THAT BOEING CAN’T FUCK UP!😂The New VC25B (there’s 2 of them)...

Well, we all need to realize that this “gift” is only an issue because…

There’s  NOTHING THAT BOEING CAN’T FUCK UP!😂

The New VC25B (there’s 2 of them) “Air Force 1” aircraft are a typical Boeing shit show. The price…and schedule…are an ongoing saga. 

LoudLove wrote:
100% true. But I think we agree the optics aren’t great.  Plus L3Harris will require months if not years to retrofit it to DoD standards, which...

100% true. But I think we agree the optics aren’t great.  Plus L3Harris will require months if not years to retrofit it to DoD standards, which will be immediately removed once Trump is no longer CinC.  

I think that giving the plane to the Trump Library Foundation is the sketchy part.  If it is a gift to the DoD, then there shouldn't be that condition attached. 

How long will it take to modify the plane with all the proper tech, defense capabilities, etc.?  Sounds like at least a couple of years.  What is the benefit of spending that sort of money on the modifications over the current 747s?  

I will give Trump credit for telling the truth when he claimed that this was all transparent, though!

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BH_84 wrote:

Just an observation, but if the Dems did this, this thread would already have 20 pages by now

I'd take the over on that bet!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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BH_84 wrote:

Just an observation, but if the Dems did this, this thread would already have 20 pages by now

APLMAN99 wrote:

I'd take the over on that bet!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pretty quiet over here on this one. 🤣

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BH_84 wrote:

Just an observation, but if the Dems did this, this thread would already have 20 pages by now

APLMAN99 wrote:

I'd take the over on that bet!!!!!!!!!!!!!

avidchimp wrote:

Pretty quiet over here on this one. 🤣

I actually don’t know what it will take to make it into a legitimate AF1, so it may be a fantastic offer from the Qataris. But it sounds like it will take a lot of time to convert.  Maybe not. 

The condition that it basically goes to Trump after his term, however, should be a nonstarter for anyone with an ounce of objectivity to them. 

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APLMAN99 wrote:

I'd take the over on that bet!!!!!!!!!!!!!

avidchimp wrote:

Pretty quiet over here on this one. 🤣

APLMAN99 wrote:
I actually don’t know what it will take to make it into a legitimate AF1, so it may be a fantastic offer from the Qataris. But...

I actually don’t know what it will take to make it into a legitimate AF1, so it may be a fantastic offer from the Qataris. But it sounds like it will take a lot of time to convert.  Maybe not. 

The condition that it basically goes to Trump after his term, however, should be a nonstarter for anyone with an ounce of objectivity to them. 

That's the whole point, it will never be converted into an AF1, so we may as well just consider this a gift to the Trump Org.

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5/12/2025 12:17pm

Security protocols would require near complete disassembly. DoD-spec stuff can be added, but you can imagine it’s not off-the-shelf avionics.  By then Trump will be heading to Mir-A-Lago full time!

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i generally follow the rule that if you are getting something for free, you are not the customer, you are the product, 

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BH_84 wrote:

Just an observation, but if the Dems did this, this thread would already have 20 pages by now

can you imagine the outrage if Obama took a plane from a Muslim nation?

 

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BH_84 wrote:

Just an observation, but if the Dems did this, this thread would already have 20 pages by now

scott_nz wrote:

can you imagine the outrage if Obama took a plane from a Muslim nation?

 

One that reportedly gave over a billion in funding to Hamas 

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Google the Trump fam's 5.5B resort plans in Qatar. 

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5/12/2025 12:34pm Edited Date/Time 5/12/2025 12:35pm
BH_84 wrote:

Just an observation, but if the Dems did this, this thread would already have 20 pages by now

scott_nz wrote:

can you imagine the outrage if Obama took a plane from a Muslim nation?

 

Especially after the Bush admin had been allover Abdul Karim al-Thani  for providing material support to Al Qaeda.  

That would've been very bad back then for Obama to receive a gift from a family that was supporting our enemies at the time. 

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Or what Pam Bondi did previously. Meet the new swamp, not that much different from the old swamp.  So depressing. 

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Donate that thing as a Red Cross flying hospital or something/anything that no POTUS will use.

 

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So now optics are a thing ??

Okay. 

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TeamGreen wrote:
Well, we all need to realize that this “gift” is only an issue because…There’s  NOTHING THAT BOEING CAN’T FUCK UP!😂The New VC25B (there’s 2 of them)...

Well, we all need to realize that this “gift” is only an issue because…

There’s  NOTHING THAT BOEING CAN’T FUCK UP!😂

The New VC25B (there’s 2 of them) “Air Force 1” aircraft are a typical Boeing shit show. The price…and schedule…are an ongoing saga. 

LoudLove wrote:
100% true. But I think we agree the optics aren’t great.  Plus L3Harris will require months if not years to retrofit it to DoD standards, which...

100% true. But I think we agree the optics aren’t great.  Plus L3Harris will require months if not years to retrofit it to DoD standards, which will be immediately removed once Trump is no longer CinC.  

APLMAN99 wrote:
I think that giving the plane to the Trump Library Foundation is the sketchy part.  If it is a gift to the DoD, then there shouldn't...

I think that giving the plane to the Trump Library Foundation is the sketchy part.  If it is a gift to the DoD, then there shouldn't be that condition attached. 

How long will it take to modify the plane with all the proper tech, defense capabilities, etc.?  Sounds like at least a couple of years.  What is the benefit of spending that sort of money on the modifications over the current 747s?  

I will give Trump credit for telling the truth when he claimed that this was all transparent, though!

The plane is being given to the Department of Defense...But I suppose that is not as scandalous as saying Trump himself, or Trump Library Foundation...etc..

 

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LoudLove wrote:
100% true. But I think we agree the optics aren’t great.  Plus L3Harris will require months if not years to retrofit it to DoD standards, which...

100% true. But I think we agree the optics aren’t great.  Plus L3Harris will require months if not years to retrofit it to DoD standards, which will be immediately removed once Trump is no longer CinC.  

APLMAN99 wrote:
I think that giving the plane to the Trump Library Foundation is the sketchy part.  If it is a gift to the DoD, then there shouldn't...

I think that giving the plane to the Trump Library Foundation is the sketchy part.  If it is a gift to the DoD, then there shouldn't be that condition attached. 

How long will it take to modify the plane with all the proper tech, defense capabilities, etc.?  Sounds like at least a couple of years.  What is the benefit of spending that sort of money on the modifications over the current 747s?  

I will give Trump credit for telling the truth when he claimed that this was all transparent, though!

Brad460 wrote:

The plane is being given to the Department of Defense...But I suppose that is not as scandalous as saying Trump himself, or Trump Library Foundation...etc..

 

On the condition that it be released to the Trump Library at the end of his term…….

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This has to be a troll. No way are they going to take that plane and use it for the security of a president. LoudLove knows.

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APLMAN99 wrote:
I think that giving the plane to the Trump Library Foundation is the sketchy part.  If it is a gift to the DoD, then there shouldn't...

I think that giving the plane to the Trump Library Foundation is the sketchy part.  If it is a gift to the DoD, then there shouldn't be that condition attached. 

How long will it take to modify the plane with all the proper tech, defense capabilities, etc.?  Sounds like at least a couple of years.  What is the benefit of spending that sort of money on the modifications over the current 747s?  

I will give Trump credit for telling the truth when he claimed that this was all transparent, though!

Brad460 wrote:

The plane is being given to the Department of Defense...But I suppose that is not as scandalous as saying Trump himself, or Trump Library Foundation...etc..

 

APLMAN99 wrote:

On the condition that it be released to the Trump Library at the end of his term…….

Like the AF1s on display at Raegan Library and Boeing Museum? 

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5/12/2025 2:55pm Edited Date/Time 5/12/2025 2:56pm
Brad460 wrote:

The plane is being given to the Department of Defense...But I suppose that is not as scandalous as saying Trump himself, or Trump Library Foundation...etc..

 

APLMAN99 wrote:

On the condition that it be released to the Trump Library at the end of his term…….

TeamGreen wrote:

Like the AF1s on display at Raegan Library and Boeing Museum? 

You and I both know that thing turns into Trump Force 1 at the end of his term and will be used by him until such time as he no longer needs it. Then it will be "donated" to his library and written off as a tax deduction by the Trump Org.

This is a gift to Trump, plain and simple. Maybe it includes a laptop?

EDIT: The DoD angle just means it get refurbished on the taxpayer's dime.

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Brad460 wrote:

The plane is being given to the Department of Defense...But I suppose that is not as scandalous as saying Trump himself, or Trump Library Foundation...etc..

 

APLMAN99 wrote:

On the condition that it be released to the Trump Library at the end of his term…….

TeamGreen wrote:

Like the AF1s on display at Raegan Library and Boeing Museum? 

Were they donated to the Reagan Library right after the end of his second term?  Were they donated by a foreign government?  If so, then yes, exactly like that.......!

 

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747s are notoriously expensive to operate and maintain.  Trump will put that beast on Marketplace!  

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5/12/2025 3:13pm Edited Date/Time 5/12/2025 3:16pm

Good info here on the jet at the 6:00 minute mark

It’s actually going to the Dept of Defense until AF1 gets finished. Then the plane will be decommissioned and placed in the Presidential library. 

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avidchimp wrote:
You and I both know that thing turns into Trump Force 1 at the end of his term and will be used by him until such...

You and I both know that thing turns into Trump Force 1 at the end of his term and will be used by him until such time as he no longer needs it. Then it will be "donated" to his library and written off as a tax deduction by the Trump Org.

This is a gift to Trump, plain and simple. Maybe it includes a laptop?

EDIT: The DoD angle just means it get refurbished on the taxpayer's dime.

Hunters laptop was a gift?     

I agree it just doesnt look good if a gift like that goes to the POTUS,  but at least all of this is being talked about in the wide open.  The small fortune the "Big Guy" got was all clandestine and laundered through shell companies.   

Regardless,  he really needs to stay away from that thing.   Because as several have pointed out,  if the "Big Guy" was getting something like that,  there would be lots of bitching from the other side.

 

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This just look sketchy...Trump should decline this offer.  

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Once those A/C leave service, they belong to The National Archivist. 

If that bird goes into AF1 rotation…it’s going to be in service for a coupl’a decades. The Donald won’t get to see it at his library in his lifetime. 

This just in: People losing their shit over free aircraft for The United States VC25 fleet! 

Again, this bird already has an L3 defensive suite installed. But, no worries…

Hey, did ya hear? That bastard, Donald Trump somehow got a free 747-8F for use as Americas AF1/VC25! That’s son of a bitch.

Loving the Pearl Clutching. 🤣

You Can Not Make This Shit Up.

Only Loud Love seems to get what’s up with this bird. 

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