Should Sexton "Bunch them up" in Salt Lake??

5/8/2025 10:55am

Chase had his chance to control his own destiny to win outright but could not get it done in Pittsburg even though he started right behind Webb. No way in hell Webb is dumb enough to fall prey to any goofy stuff Sexton might try. Hell let Deegan ride a 450 at Salt lake to ride interference 😁

3
kxking
Posts
1972
Joined
8/15/2006
Location
Oakville, Ontario, CA
Fantasy
5/8/2025 11:00am
AZ35 wrote:

Webb is too smart to lose at that game. 

Spurdo wrote:
As a Sexton fan girl, it kills me to say it - but this dude is right. Webb simply doesnt fold under pressure. Sexton has got...

As a Sexton fan girl, it kills me to say it - but this dude is right. Webb simply doesnt fold under pressure. Sexton has got to reel in the blunders on track. 

Fellow Chase fangirl here and I agree. Chase needed to channel his inner Stewart and be the COW in Pittsburgh. Checkers or wreckers. With the points...

Fellow Chase fangirl here and I agree. Chase needed to channel his inner Stewart and be the COW in Pittsburgh. Checkers or wreckers. With the points how they were, the season hung on that race. Coop is too good for any of these armchair quarterback strategies to beat him. Go win the race Chase and let the chips fall where they may

^^ yup, cross your fingers......

I'm sorry but hoping for the best, wont win a title against Webb

This is SX, if you want it, go out and take it. That's what that #38 guy did and Chase should do the same. 

Nice guys finish last (or second). Be THE MAN, move Webb out the way, then go win the race/title.

1
2
5/8/2025 11:11am Edited Date/Time 5/8/2025 2:07pm
In my opinion, Chase missed a huge opportunity to bunch 'em up in Denver tonight.  When you have that much of a speed advantage over everyone...

In my opinion, Chase missed a huge opportunity to bunch 'em up in Denver tonight.  When you have that much of a speed advantage over everyone you can cause a log jam at the front, bunch 'em up, start the dicing, and hope that things go your way.  Roczen and Barcia are out but Chase still had Malcolm and Plessinger to hopefully get in between him and Webb.  How many times will you be in contention for a 450 title?   Running away and finishing 9 seconds ahead is not going to take the championship from Webb who can just mail it in behind you (even when he was sick and off the pace tonight).

If I'm Chase I'm starting a game of cat and mouse with Webb tonight.  Riding him high, coming to a stop in berms, max'ing the heart rates, passing and re-passing, and doing everything I can to let the field catch up for more carnage and chaos.  Look what happened with a little contact from Deegan tonight? The stars aligned for him and he clinched the championship.  Anything can happen. Webb can go down, get caught on a tough block, or get stuck on the back side of a berm like Davies.  

Chase, you only have one race left now and you aren't going to win the championship running away from everyone again.  So please, bunch them up and give us all an exciting grand finale to watch.  Play the best game of cat and mouse you ever have, and in the process, you just might take the championship from Webb if things go your way.  The risk of taking yourself out is worth it with the championship on the line.  Give yourself a chance, these championship opportunities don't come easy.

 

When you made the same prediction about Tomac a few years ago I said you were crazy and Tomac would never do it but sure enough he did it so I wont say the same thing this time because I was wrong and you were right. 😎

3
2
JustMX
Posts
5326
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
USA
5/8/2025 12:28pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2025 12:29pm
sandman768 wrote:

Needed help from the cowboy and Stew…..didn’t happen…Chase lost the championship on the nights where he imploded…..

If he is not able to win the title he will lie awake in the future thinking how silly it was to try to win the third heat at a triple crown when he had first place overall locked up.

If he had cruised, he would have the points lead.

Webb would have if he knew he had the overall locked up.

That is the difference in mentality.

1

The Shop

kxking
Posts
1972
Joined
8/15/2006
Location
Oakville, Ontario, CA
Fantasy
5/8/2025 12:34pm

Do any of you think that if Webb was in Chases position, he wouldn't do everything in his powers to win?

4
1
mx 219
Posts
4046
Joined
8/15/2010
Location
South Central, PA, USA
5/8/2025 12:50pm
kxking wrote:

Do any of you think that if Webb was in Chases position, he wouldn't do everything in his powers to win?

He absolutely would.

3
Falcon
Posts
12561
Joined
11/16/2011
Location
Menifee, CA, USA
5/8/2025 2:06pm
sandman768 wrote:

Needed help from the cowboy and Stew…..didn’t happen…Chase lost the championship on the nights where he imploded…..

JustMX wrote:
If he is not able to win the title he will lie awake in the future thinking how silly it was to try to win the...

If he is not able to win the title he will lie awake in the future thinking how silly it was to try to win the third heat at a triple crown when he had first place overall locked up.

If he had cruised, he would have the points lead.

Webb would have if he knew he had the overall locked up.

That is the difference in mentality.

Technically, had Chase won the overall there would be an 8-point swing (Sexton +5, Webb -3). Webb would be leading by one point and it would be dog eat dog in SLC. You are right, though; I bet Sexton would much prefer to have those 8 points! 

5/8/2025 2:10pm
kxking wrote:

Do any of you think that if Webb was in Chases position, he wouldn't do everything in his powers to win?

I agree and he already did at Pittsburg by taking the control out of Sextons hands, and if push come to shove this Saturday then my $$$$$$$$$$ is on Webb being the last man standing. 

kijen
Posts
1230
Joined
10/1/2010
Location
Jacksonville, FL, USA
5/8/2025 2:21pm

If Chase is too worried about bunching up to mess with Webb, seems tbat would open the door for JCoop and Malcom for the win, Even Plessinger but we know he wouldnt pass Chase.  We all think Chase is faster, why aren't we talking about  let Webb out front,  than take him out with a block pass?

Mit12
Posts
2223
Joined
6/23/2014
Location
Lake Havasu City, AZ, USA
5/8/2025 2:49pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2025 2:52pm

It did not work for Tomac and it wont work for Sexton. Sexton needs to win and let the cards cards fall where they fall. Webb would have to have a late race crash to loose this championship as he can come from last to 5th with 20 minuts plus 1. Looks like Webb will pass Hannah as the 5th best sx rider of all time after this championship is sealed moving Tomac to 8th all time. 

1
dhp_mma94
Posts
4750
Joined
2/25/2013
Location
La Plata, MD, USA
5/8/2025 2:52pm
dhp_mma94 wrote:
5th is back to 17 pts cause AMA likes to fuck with shit & don’t tell a damn soul , coop needs 5th or better...

5th is back to 17 pts cause AMA likes to fuck with shit & don’t tell a damn soul , coop needs 5th or better , 6th & worse will lose him the title 

TheMilkman wrote:
That is assuming Chase wins. If Chase wins, Webb has to get 5th or better. If Chase finishes 2nd, Webb needs 8th or better. If Chase...

That is assuming Chase wins. If Chase wins, Webb has to get 5th or better. If Chase finishes 2nd, Webb needs 8th or better. If Chase finishes 3rd, Webb needs 10th or better. 

Chase needs to ride his own race. Playing games to screw with Webb could easily let the win slip away. His best chance of getting the championship is to win the race and hope Webb has some bad luck.

let’s be real here , unless a mechanical whos stopping chase from winning in 2 days time 🤔 I’m doing no extra math when its really simple , chase ain’t goona do no dumb shit by bunching the field , if anything more than likely hes goona chop the wheel off at the start or push him wide going into the 1st corner 

1
5/8/2025 3:29pm
kijen wrote:
If Chase is too worried about bunching up to mess with Webb, seems tbat would open the door for JCoop and Malcom for the win, Even...

If Chase is too worried about bunching up to mess with Webb, seems tbat would open the door for JCoop and Malcom for the win, Even Plessinger but we know he wouldnt pass Chase.  We all think Chase is faster, why aren't we talking about  let Webb out front,  than take him out with a block pass?

Because Webb is way smarter than to put himself in that position. Sexton had his chance amd dropped the ball 

1
5/8/2025 3:51pm
Falcon wrote:
^Chase will still have to win, though. That's the razor's edge he'll have to contend with. Bunching up the competition only helps if a grip of...

^Chase will still have to win, though. That's the razor's edge he'll have to contend with. Bunching up the competition only helps if a grip of dudes get in front of Webb and he still takes the W. 

Sexton doesn't necessarily have to win. He could let JCoop get his first win and finish 2nd as long as Webb pulls a Cole Davies behind him.  

Here's a very possible scenario assuming Chase has the speed advantage again in SLC and he gets a good start in the main:

Very EARLY in the race Chase takes the lead and starts playing cat and mouse with Webb to the point he is running him high and coming to a stop in berms, etc.  This will allow several riders to pass.  Say Sexton and Webb's passing and re-passing antics push them back close to 10th+ and then Webb falls over with bike upside down in a berm, or runs over the top of the berm and pulls a Davies.  Sexton takes off and reels off a 2nd place finish behind JCoop, all while Webb has his issues getting going again.  Webb finishes far enough back to lose the championship.  Sexton would have Malcolm, Plessinger, Ferrandis, Savatgy, Wilson, Hill, etc to get in between them if Webb were to have a Davies moment.

Although this is a long shot scenario, long shots do happen. 100% of shots will be missed if they aren't taken.  Take the shot Chase, you have nothing to lose.

1
2
TogaSet
Posts
702
Joined
5/21/2016
Location
Chandler, AZ, USA
5/8/2025 6:20pm

Go ahead and fuck with Webb let’s see how that turns out.  I’m genuinely curious.  Bet Webb will retaliate aggressively.  

1
1
5/8/2025 6:45pm
TogaSet wrote:

Go ahead and fuck with Webb let’s see how that turns out.  I’m genuinely curious.  Bet Webb will retaliate aggressively.  

Totally agree about Webb, but if I'm Sexton I'm doing everything I can to try and take the title because who knows if he'll ever be in this situation again.

3
1
el_donn
Posts
71
Joined
2/3/2025
Location
Alpine, CA, USA
5/8/2025 10:42pm

If he tries that I see Webb passing him somewhere and Chase either going down or getting flustered when he now has J Coop to deal with for the rest of the race while trying to pass webb back. We already know that Webb has gone to bat for Cooper with Yamaha and has made sure he stays there. If Chase bunches them and Webb gets past, Chase is gonna have a mental meltdown right about the time J Coop gets past him. The only way Chase gets the title is if something happens to Webb that he can’t recover to fifth from. 

1
Falcon
Posts
12561
Joined
11/16/2011
Location
Menifee, CA, USA
5/9/2025 8:42am
Falcon wrote:
^Chase will still have to win, though. That's the razor's edge he'll have to contend with. Bunching up the competition only helps if a grip of...

^Chase will still have to win, though. That's the razor's edge he'll have to contend with. Bunching up the competition only helps if a grip of dudes get in front of Webb and he still takes the W. 

Sexton doesn't necessarily have to win. He could let JCoop get his first win and finish 2nd as long as Webb pulls a Cole Davies behind...

Sexton doesn't necessarily have to win. He could let JCoop get his first win and finish 2nd as long as Webb pulls a Cole Davies behind him.  

Here's a very possible scenario assuming Chase has the speed advantage again in SLC and he gets a good start in the main:

Very EARLY in the race Chase takes the lead and starts playing cat and mouse with Webb to the point he is running him high and coming to a stop in berms, etc.  This will allow several riders to pass.  Say Sexton and Webb's passing and re-passing antics push them back close to 10th+ and then Webb falls over with bike upside down in a berm, or runs over the top of the berm and pulls a Davies.  Sexton takes off and reels off a 2nd place finish behind JCoop, all while Webb has his issues getting going again.  Webb finishes far enough back to lose the championship.  Sexton would have Malcolm, Plessinger, Ferrandis, Savatgy, Wilson, Hill, etc to get in between them if Webb were to have a Davies moment.

Although this is a long shot scenario, long shots do happen. 100% of shots will be missed if they aren't taken.  Take the shot Chase, you have nothing to lose.

You are right, but a bigger grip of dudes in from of Webb will be necessary if Chase doesn't win. The way the points work, if Chase takes 2nd instead of 1st, three more riders need to get ahead of Webb (as you pointed out). it would be more difficult to manage from a strategic standpoint. 

1
dhp_mma94
Posts
4750
Joined
2/25/2013
Location
La Plata, MD, USA
5/10/2025 7:38pm
dhp_mma94 wrote:
5th is back to 17 pts cause AMA likes to fuck with shit & don’t tell a damn soul , coop needs 5th or better...

5th is back to 17 pts cause AMA likes to fuck with shit & don’t tell a damn soul , coop needs 5th or better , 6th & worse will lose him the title 

TheMilkman wrote:
That is assuming Chase wins. If Chase wins, Webb has to get 5th or better. If Chase finishes 2nd, Webb needs 8th or better. If Chase...

That is assuming Chase wins. If Chase wins, Webb has to get 5th or better. If Chase finishes 2nd, Webb needs 8th or better. If Chase finishes 3rd, Webb needs 10th or better. 

Chase needs to ride his own race. Playing games to screw with Webb could easily let the win slip away. His best chance of getting the championship is to win the race and hope Webb has some bad luck.

dhp_mma94 wrote:
let’s be real here , unless a mechanical whos stopping chase from winning in 2 days time 🤔 I’m doing no extra math when its really...

let’s be real here , unless a mechanical whos stopping chase from winning in 2 days time 🤔 I’m doing no extra math when its really simple , chase ain’t goona do no dumb shit by bunching the field , if anything more than likely hes goona chop the wheel off at the start or push him wide going into the 1st corner 

like I said 👌🏾no need for extra math when it was plain & simple , see yal hoes later 

Post a reply to: Should Sexton "Bunch them up" in Salt Lake??

The Latest