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Rider Payout is Terrible - I know beating a deadhorse
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this needs to be a bigger topic in this sport imo! ima say the same thing I say in majority of my UFC podcast vids , how in the hell ( in this case ) a popular Motorsport organization / or promoter ( FELD) can’t seem to pay enuff money to the teams & riders of the series of wht they are actually worth & valued
It sucks, but no one is forcing them to line up.
They could always:
-Get a job
-Get better/faster and place better
-Market themselves better
-Chase money races
-Race abroad
If they want to race dirt bikes for a living, they must treat it like a job. No different than anyone who works a regular job. Do you want to get paid more? Learn a new skill, bring value to the employer/company, etc.
What value does Michael Hicks bring to the show? Not trying to be a dick, but like what dollar amount would you put on him bringing in in terms of value?
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He is one of the fastest arenacross races, won event overseas, and trying to get into supercross. You should be able to make enough to cover your expenses if you make the night show or how else could anyone "prove' themselves if they cant even afford a hamburger after the race.
What is that worth exactly?
If you are good enough then you will make money. 😎
He has done money races, thats a big part of his MO and raced overseas, and gave Friese a run for money in AX. I just think someone making main they should be able to put a little cash in their pocket or no way for anyone to prove themselves. There is enough money for feld to pay top guys $1000 extra. If there isnt then dont charge the riders entry fee, does Lebron pay parking and buy a ticket to his games?
Most Motorsports charge entry fees. F1 entry fees will blow your wig back
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ima do further research wht FELD is actually worth & then I’ll correct my statements & analysis but here today ima break it down on at least my philosophy on the pay scale , the top athletes of this sport , ur Eli’s , Jett’s , chase , coop , prado , Kenny , they are the elite title guys , at least 15 to 20 mill , we go down to ur mid pack guys how ever u wana rank them , the mookies , the AP’s , barcia’s etc….. 8 to 12 mill, then the guys who pretty much are privateers or main event guys but like 17th thru 22nd at least a mill to 5 mill
edit : tht should be all based salary, u can earn more based on how well u promote ur self & get noticed with fans & all tht good shit & potentially outside sponsors , after collaborating with a few other mma podcasters on how we feel of the atrocity greediness of the ufc & how under payed these fighters are & even fortunate enuff to talk to some of these fighters , some of they are aware of supercross & motocross actually believe it or not & they personally told me the pay scale is pretty much borderline the same , the Eli’s & Jett’s & Kenny are making just about the same as say somebody like Izzy or Islam makhachev , ilia topuria while the rest say , ur 10th ranked fighter thru 15th , making absolutely nothing , my personal opinion, all these athletes are severely underpaid to wht these promoters are profiting from
With all due respect, those numbers are delusional.
fuck no , bruh these boys need to be touching at least a mill , while Eli , Jett etc… need to get way more then wht they getting now
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I think what LungButter may be alluding to is that there is not enough money in the sport to support that pay structure.
i mean if you have 6 top tier guys that is 100 million, then another 10 guys at 10 million each, then the 17-22 guys totaling say 10 million. So somehow you are going to fund 200+ million ( and we have not talked about what we will do with the guys who this post is about so another 10-15 million to spread out to them perhaps?).
So where is Feld going to generate 20+ million after expenses to pay these salaries?
I agree Feld show pay a bit more to the guys attempting to qualify. The problem is if Hicks doesn't show up the show goes on. Hell, we are missing about half of the top of the field and the show goes on.
True, but FELD derives considerably more value from a full gate than they pay for.
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I feel like the pay should be more....I think that if you are a top 20 guy in either class you should make at least $50k per yr (after travel expenses, insurance, training). But part of that is based on not getting hurt and getting good results.
Unfortunately, I don't run the show.
which is why I said ima do further research to see wht FELD is actually worth then I’ll go from there if my statements & analysis is wrong or right on par , but this my standpoint
You are delusional with your numbers.
If a rider got 20th at every race indoors and out I think they should make a solid $50-100k. But, feld/mx sports is going to pay as little as they can. No different than sports teams.
You realize feld does more than supercross right?
say wht u want , love it or hate it ,I argued & debated with these new ufc fans for 5+yrs on this topic & I’ll debate yal on here but I’m standing on business with this , from the elite title guys to the privateers , from the factory supported teams to the satellite B teams , these riders & teams need to get more than wht they getting
yea monster jam , Disney on ice & other shit , which is why just like Dana white & the ufc & TKO who now owns ufc & wwe , somebody up above is being greedy & not giving these athletes or teams their proper value worth
Top 20 guys do make $50k or more a year. Purse is not the only source of income.
A lotta Stockholm syndrome in here .
In business that is the goal, to earn more than you spend. Feld is not a charity.
Well, Hicks made just as much purse money for not qualifying in Foxborough than DeWolf for winning in Riola Sardo.
Not bad, ain'it?
Lol I know. I tried not to write a treatise on economics. BUT for the riders being there, FELD wouldn't make money at all. FELD relies on riders' independent motivations for being there to avoid significant revenue share. This works until the riders in question artificially create a market scarcity which would require FELD to allocate more revenue to their respective partners in order to preserve the revenue stream at all.
This is the one good thing the WSX tried to do, and what F1 does well. It's much easier when you're flush with outside sponsor money, but the F1 teams clearly collude to flex their bargaining position and the resultant purse money is substantial.
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