Vialle on 450

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450 next season?

 

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if he wins this SX title, i could see him going to 450 this summer

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ZinAZ wrote:

if he wins this SX title, i could see him going to 450 this summer

French don’t want none of Deegs outdoors

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ZinAZ wrote:

if he wins this SX title, i could see him going to 450 this summer

He's likely already contacted to ride a 250 the rest of the year. They already have AP and Chase Smile I'll bet him and Haiden each ride 250 sx next year and then move up in the summer. They will likely both be sporting the #1 in SX Wink

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ZinAZ wrote:

if he wins this SX title, i could see him going to 450 this summer

He's likely already contacted to ride a 250 the rest of the year. They already have AP and Chase :) I'll bet him and Haiden each...

He's likely already contacted to ride a 250 the rest of the year. They already have AP and Chase Smile I'll bet him and Haiden each ride 250 sx next year and then move up in the summer. They will likely both be sporting the #1 in SX Wink

Vialle is forced up next year if he wins the title again this year. 

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ZinAZ wrote:

if he wins this SX title, i could see him going to 450 this summer

French don’t want none of Deegs outdoors

I was hoping Haiden might go 450 this summer but him riding that Starr 250 the rest of this year will do nothing but grow his confidence. He was like a mini Tomac at the end of last summer.

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ohh_454 wrote:

Vialle is forced up next year if he wins the title again this year. 

Forgot about that, ty.

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I hope the heck RJ has a 450 deal in the works. I'm ready to see some of these guys get in the 450 mix. Next summer could be ultra special, Jett, Hunter, Eli, Chase, Prado, Cooper, Vialle, Deegs, RJ, Herlings. 

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ZinAZ wrote:

if he wins this SX title, i could see him going to 450 this summer

No. With RJ racing 450 outdoors ktm will want at least one guy out there able to win

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ZinAZ wrote:

if he wins this SX title, i could see him going to 450 this summer

French don’t want none of Deegs outdoors

I thought Tom would be battling with Haiden outdoors last year consistently, Haiden was just a different animal outdoors.

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I hope the heck RJ has a 450 deal in the works. I'm ready to see some of these guys get in the 450 mix. Next...

I hope the heck RJ has a 450 deal in the works. I'm ready to see some of these guys get in the 450 mix. Next summer could be ultra special, Jett, Hunter, Eli, Chase, Prado, Cooper, Vialle, Deegs, RJ, Herlings. 

He's contracted for next year and is going 450 full time this outdoor season.

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davis224 wrote:

He's contracted for next year and is going 450 full time this outdoor season.

Cool. He'll be an awesome addition to the class.

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I hope the heck RJ has a 450 deal in the works. I'm ready to see some of these guys get in the 450 mix. Next...

I hope the heck RJ has a 450 deal in the works. I'm ready to see some of these guys get in the 450 mix. Next summer could be ultra special, Jett, Hunter, Eli, Chase, Prado, Cooper, Vialle, Deegs, RJ, Herlings. 

davis224 wrote:

He's contracted for next year and is going 450 full time this outdoor season.

Wait, really?? Oh lord, that's so sick. Probably makes the 250 class a one man show, but the earlier the better for Vialle. Who knows, maybe he can find that extra speed on the 450 with his smooth riding style.

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Mavetism wrote:
Wait, really?? Oh lord, that's so sick. Probably makes the 250 class a one man show, but the earlier the better for Vialle. Who knows, maybe...

Wait, really?? Oh lord, that's so sick. Probably makes the 250 class a one man show, but the earlier the better for Vialle. Who knows, maybe he can find that extra speed on the 450 with his smooth riding style.

Unless Haiden really stumbles, I think it was/is going to be anyway. No guarantees though.

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ZinAZ wrote:

if he wins this SX title, i could see him going to 450 this summer

French don’t want none of Deegs outdoors

I thought Tom would be battling with Haiden outdoors last year consistently, Haiden was just a different animal outdoors.

Haiden has that thing that Webb had in his 250 MX days where the in last 10 minutes of a moto he digs deep.

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ZinAZ wrote:

if he wins this SX title, i could see him going to 450 this summer

French don’t want none of Deegs outdoors

I thought Tom would be battling with Haiden outdoors last year consistently, Haiden was just a different animal outdoors.

Let's be honest, when we look at their past years, it doesn't make sense that Vialle beat Deegan in SX and that Deegan beat Vialle like that in MX. Should have been the other way around lol. I still think Vialle has problems adapting to the US schedule somehow. Like in europe he had the whole winter to get ready for motocross, we know how he looks in MX when he is dialed. But in the end it's the same for everyone and Deegan definitely came in prepared and fit.

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Haiden has that thing that Webb had in his 250 MX days where the in last 10 minutes of a moto he digs deep.

And it’s absolutely amazing to watch.

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Mavetism wrote:
Let's be honest, when we look at their past years, it doesn't make sense that Vialle beat Deegan in SX and that Deegan beat Vialle like...

Let's be honest, when we look at their past years, it doesn't make sense that Vialle beat Deegan in SX and that Deegan beat Vialle like that in MX. Should have been the other way around lol. I still think Vialle has problems adapting to the US schedule somehow. Like in europe he had the whole winter to get ready for motocross, we know how he looks in MX when he is dialed. But in the end it's the same for everyone and Deegan definitely came in prepared and fit.

I completely agree with you on everything, especially with vialle’s focus shifting to multiple series/styles of riding from only one series and style of riding.

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I hope the heck RJ has a 450 deal in the works. I'm ready to see some of these guys get in the 450 mix. Next...

I hope the heck RJ has a 450 deal in the works. I'm ready to see some of these guys get in the 450 mix. Next summer could be ultra special, Jett, Hunter, Eli, Chase, Prado, Cooper, Vialle, Deegs, RJ, Herlings. 

davis224 wrote:

He's contracted for next year and is going 450 full time this outdoor season.

Mavetism wrote:
Wait, really?? Oh lord, that's so sick. Probably makes the 250 class a one man show, but the earlier the better for Vialle. Who knows, maybe...

Wait, really?? Oh lord, that's so sick. Probably makes the 250 class a one man show, but the earlier the better for Vialle. Who knows, maybe he can find that extra speed on the 450 with his smooth riding style.

If it wasn't clear I was talking about Hampshire. I'm not sure where I see Vialle sitting in when he does move up.

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I hope the heck RJ has a 450 deal in the works. I'm ready to see some of these guys get in the 450 mix. Next...

I hope the heck RJ has a 450 deal in the works. I'm ready to see some of these guys get in the 450 mix. Next summer could be ultra special, Jett, Hunter, Eli, Chase, Prado, Cooper, Vialle, Deegs, RJ, Herlings. 

davis224 wrote:

He's contracted for next year and is going 450 full time this outdoor season.

Mavetism wrote:
Wait, really?? Oh lord, that's so sick. Probably makes the 250 class a one man show, but the earlier the better for Vialle. Who knows, maybe...

Wait, really?? Oh lord, that's so sick. Probably makes the 250 class a one man show, but the earlier the better for Vialle. Who knows, maybe he can find that extra speed on the 450 with his smooth riding style.

RJ would be in the title fight for the first 4-5 motos before something happens and he’s a moto in points behind. 

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RJ would be in the title fight for the first 4-5 motos before something happens and he’s a moto in points behind. 

He'll be fun to watch that's for sure.

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Vialle is much better at riding within his capabilities.  Although his outdoor results have been a bit less than expected.

RJ on the other hand, will push hard and is subject to the major mistake.  The win or yard sale mentality…

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Haiden has that thing that Webb had in his 250 MX days where the in last 10 minutes of a moto he digs deep.

That Washougal ride a few years ago was like rewatching this guy. IMG 3315 1

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ZinAZ wrote:

if he wins this SX title, i could see him going to 450 this summer

French don’t want none of Deegs outdoors

lol no one does, that kid is an animal outdoors.  I dunno about SX but outdoors i think he will be tomac 2.0

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ZinAZ wrote:

if he wins this SX title, i could see him going to 450 this summer

He's likely already contacted to ride a 250 the rest of the year. They already have AP and Chase :) I'll bet him and Haiden each...

He's likely already contacted to ride a 250 the rest of the year. They already have AP and Chase Smile I'll bet him and Haiden each ride 250 sx next year and then move up in the summer. They will likely both be sporting the #1 in SX Wink

yah that makes sense, i just figured he already won two outdoor gp titles, and now two sx titles..but the structure of things makes sense for him to wait to move up

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More riders should start on 450’s outdoors imo. 

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I'd like to see ktm keep AP and throw Tom on a 350 for sx and then 450 for outdoors.

I feel like the 350 is great for a first year in sx then a 450 outdoors. I know it'll never happen. But it would give him an sx season with no pressure in the big boy class. He would still be 5-12 guy out of the gate 50 or 450 the first year.

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He needs to be strength training now. 

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soggy wrote:

More riders should start on 450’s outdoors imo. 

Christian Craig style

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soggy wrote:

More riders should start on 450’s outdoors imo. 

Christian Craig style

Chase Sexton is who I was thinking of. And Jett. 

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I'd like to see ktm keep AP and throw Tom on a 350 for sx and then 450 for outdoors.I feel like the 350 is great...

I'd like to see ktm keep AP and throw Tom on a 350 for sx and then 450 for outdoors.

I feel like the 350 is great for a first year in sx then a 450 outdoors. I know it'll never happen. But it would give him an sx season with no pressure in the big boy class. He would still be 5-12 guy out of the gate 50 or 450 the first year.

450 is way easier to ride SX on. 350 would make him more of a liability. 

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