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Riding FAST in the woods IS more dangerous than riding FAST on a mx track!
Clicks = views = money. Good for AJ lol
Dude I was at this race, it was the Charlotte dirt track a few years back it was probably the craziest thing I've ever seen in motorsports. He was at like fans eye level when he was in the air.
Also hopefully they come back soon it was my first flat track race and just went because it was cheap and my dad wanted to check it out, these guys are insane in person.
Anecdotal evidence here from me. Almost all of my injuries and there are many came from moto. One broken pinky in offroad.
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Well done
I ride/race both woods and Mx tracks, All my serious injuries are from Mx tracks…I have been banged up from hitting trees or falling on rocks in the woods but usually speeds are slower in the woods. Mx is a sprint, fast as you can go most of the time, woods is more 75-80% of your full speed IMO….for me woods/hare scrambles/ gncc”s type riding is safer, assuming trails are known and marked for direction…..
I think there's dangers to both.
Uh oh! I think you mean There ARE dangers to both.
Don't let the grammar police hear about this one!
The grammar police would really have their hands full on this forum, lol.
This dude is the biggest seesaw of opinions week to week, except when it comes to glazing Jett all day.
When your picture identifies you as the Grammar Police, then you'd better not slip up!
Doenst really help my case of arguing off-road is safer but Jesse posted this from last weeks GNCC some of the best POV from an actual pro ive seen.
I have never ridden Western trails, nor the desert, but Eastern woods riding is definitely more dangerous than moto. Downvotes Likely Matter ! DLM !
The umbrella man on the start was the real MVP
Riding in the woods or racing in the woods? If you've done both you know difference. RACING in the woods is wild. The margin of error for hitting a tree is razor thin with roots and rocks sticking up that you didn't know were there. And trees don't move.
Riding in the woods, no big deal.
The juniper dunes are like Vietnam now, I won’t even go anymore
Stu Baylor broke his neck to the extent he basically almost decapitated himself, but still finished a race. Riding woods doesn't seem risky, but riding in the woods at a face pace is what creates the risk. As Jeremy Clarkson once said, "speed has never killed anyone; suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you." And in GNCC/NEPG enduros, there are a LOT of those things that can be causes for sudden deceleration.
in general, off road riders/racers are riding slower, due to a variety of reasons. conserving energy for longer durations, enjoying the ride,, and comfort level. when ive been out with friends, the pace is easy, no one has anywhere to be or is trying to 'race' and the constant unknown terrain makes riders stay cautious longer, its been pointed out that the guys get hurt doing practice in SX when its over a simple obstacle theyve done a 100x's. and i think thats why, they get comfortable and push the edge further
That's an awesome video, thanks for sharing it...off-road, at those speeds, is dangerous...but watch a POV of an average joe on riding that course, and then its easy to see why off-road is much safer than moto.
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Oh I am the average Joe I race off-road all the time these guys don't even seem like they are doing the same sport as me.
Russell Bobbitt crashed in the last test at Sumter NEPG last month, hit a stump. Broken ribs, arm, collapsed lung among other injuries. Spent a week in the hospital.
I feel exactly the same when I watch pro rider pov of the off road races I do...its crazy the difference.
Lots of people thinking they can go through the trees as fast as Stu Baylor is swaying the opinions in this thread I think.
When I race moto I put 100% effort to go as fast as possible. Racing Offroad im about 75%. Conserving energy and hidden obstacles keep me from 100%.
Exactly!
I personally have suffered much worse injuries in our X Country series ( Tree--separated/broken shoulder destroyed labrum -- another tree/rock combo completely annihilated my ACL,MCL,PVL , and yet another tree broke a couple fingers -minor , than I have in the MX races . However , that could be because I was never a woods guy growing up ,so my skills on the Moto track are far superior to my woods ability. But on the other hand local fast guys like Broc Hepler got balled up much worse at his GNCC races too. Slippery roots, slippery rocks trees and high speeds are major recipes for disaster . I'll take my chances in the wide open spaces on the MX track
Had some track time today.
A shitty take on a shitty take.
Giving my own post a thumbs up. 👍
I will also concur with any and all dislike for Cantanzaro. He annoys the fuck out of me. Im actually seeing people riding around the track with one arm. And there asses sticking out past the rear fender. I giggle a bit.
I'm enjoying the variety of answers though.
It's definitely not as cut and dry as I thought. I'm surprised how many moto dudes that probably do some gnarly jumps are afraid of trees 🤣
All I know is that when I watch the vids of the guys ripping through the woods, particularly those ones like Paddycam, I crash right out of my chair at least twice and bash my knuckles god-knows-how.
And if I watch the vids of the fast guys doing the bomb run in a desert race, I break fingers from gripping the chair so tight and usually have to change my shorts afterward.
Inconclusive and non-scientific, but there you go.
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