Mid season check up - Who is impressing you and who is disappointing to you?

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3/5/2025 2:06pm
OwenJakes wrote:

What updates does the RMZ need particularly?

E-start.

5-10lb diet, minimum.

A shock that not every person hates.

I know that you're a little biased since you just bought one, I get it as we're naturally biased to things we spend a lot of money on, but all of that stuff seems pretty obvious doesn't it?

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3/5/2025 2:17pm

I've given Little Hill a lot of shit over the years, but he has been impressive this year for sure.  His recent interview on Pulp was cool as he owned a lot of things and knew he could still do better.

Disappointment....I figured we'd at least see some flashes from Forkner.  Maybe we still will, at this point just completing the races would be solid though.

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3/5/2025 2:19pm Edited Date/Time 3/6/2025 10:42am

450

Webb

Roczen 

Hill

The Beta team for being as solid as they are while getting their feet wet. 

250

Shimoda for being a Bad Ass. I’ve ridden with broken fingers. There were times the that the tears fucked up the inside of my goggles. 

Forkner. It wasn’t that long ago that his head was opened up and they went to work on his brain. 🧠 The things he’s had to relearn…well…I’m just very, very happy he’s back out there. 

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Definitely impressed by Kenny 94, I was expected Webb and Sexton to be as strong, keeping in mind 3 podium candidates racers are out injured right now, disappointed by Justin Cooper, what the heck Plessinger (his podium at Daytona still doesnt gives us certitude that his 7 previous race are not his 2025 level), Colt Nichols. 

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3/5/2025 3:10pm
OwenJakes wrote:

What updates does the RMZ need particularly?

LungButter wrote:
E-start.5-10lb diet, minimum.A shock that not every person hates.I know that you're a little biased since you just bought one, I get it as we're naturally...

E-start.

5-10lb diet, minimum.

A shock that not every person hates.

I know that you're a little biased since you just bought one, I get it as we're naturally biased to things we spend a lot of money on, but all of that stuff seems pretty obvious doesn't it?

No i get it. You could do that with every bike though. 

Apart from the shock, the bike is fine. I even hand started mine this weekend lol. It is the easiest starting bike. I know this because I dirt sampled it twice too!! Can't argue with the heavy thing though. Ironically it feels lighter in my hand than my YZ250 for some reason (i dont load my bike with a ramp).

 

The reason the suzuki digs get under my skin is because it's just magazine parroting mostly and i guess that bothers me. It's a very modern machine and it is so sick to ride. Yes - I am biased though. The "raw ingredients" this bike brings to the table are definitely some of the best. The "prepared dish" was not executed as it should have been by the factory -  that is certain.

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3/5/2025 6:20pm
OwenJakes wrote:
No i get it. You could do that with every bike though. Apart from the shock, the bike is fine. I even hand started mine this weekend...

No i get it. You could do that with every bike though. 

Apart from the shock, the bike is fine. I even hand started mine this weekend lol. It is the easiest starting bike. I know this because I dirt sampled it twice too!! Can't argue with the heavy thing though. Ironically it feels lighter in my hand than my YZ250 for some reason (i dont load my bike with a ramp).

 

The reason the suzuki digs get under my skin is because it's just magazine parroting mostly and i guess that bothers me. It's a very modern machine and it is so sick to ride. Yes - I am biased though. The "raw ingredients" this bike brings to the table are definitely some of the best. The "prepared dish" was not executed as it should have been by the factory -  that is certain.

You're not wrong man, it's a solid steed all things considered.  Grip it and rip it!

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3/5/2025 7:18pm Edited Date/Time 3/5/2025 7:21pm

Regardless of the Sexton mishaps I’m impressed by how he rides and looks on the bike. Really good this year.

Roczen’s improvements are awesome to watch


Extremely bummed fot Tomac, feels like he had a really good chance for another sx title

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3/5/2025 7:33pm

Impressed: Kenny’s consistency and mid season winning form. Hill’s revitalized form. 
Disappointed: Anderson, Sextons four consecutive races with massive errors of judgment. It was like he took all of his race savvy and handed it to Webb. . 

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OwenJakes wrote:
No i get it. You could do that with every bike though. Apart from the shock, the bike is fine. I even hand started mine this weekend...

No i get it. You could do that with every bike though. 

Apart from the shock, the bike is fine. I even hand started mine this weekend lol. It is the easiest starting bike. I know this because I dirt sampled it twice too!! Can't argue with the heavy thing though. Ironically it feels lighter in my hand than my YZ250 for some reason (i dont load my bike with a ramp).

 

The reason the suzuki digs get under my skin is because it's just magazine parroting mostly and i guess that bothers me. It's a very modern machine and it is so sick to ride. Yes - I am biased though. The "raw ingredients" this bike brings to the table are definitely some of the best. The "prepared dish" was not executed as it should have been by the factory -  that is certain.

LungButter wrote:

You're not wrong man, it's a solid steed all things considered.  Grip it and rip it!

How would one make the Suzuki lighter? 

3/5/2025 8:48pm

Hill, Shock, Vohland, Roczen. good.   Barcia, Pless., Anderson, not so good.

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KennyT wrote:
I like your list with the exception of Cooper. I feel he is right where I would have expected leading into the season. I do not...

I like your list with the exception of Cooper. I feel he is right where I would have expected leading into the season. I do not mean to make a dig at him but he seems like a rider who may never be a consistent 450 podium guy and I’d be shocked if he was a future 450 winner. Great rider, just not a 450 winner 

I’m shocked Roczen is arguably the fastest rider on the track for a full main. I don’t know why but I thought this may be the year his downward spiral would slowly begin and he has done the exact opposite. He is my favorite with the riders who are left and I would love to see him win the title. 

Barcia has been around a long time so he’s right where he belongs. Same with Dylan and Malcolm. Mookies win was one of the all time thrills for me and I would not have ever expected it this deep into his career. I’d love to see it again but it may be the only time we get to witness a near perfect main event. Other than that he is right where expected. 

Huge disappointment for me was AP up until last weekend. Last years early points leader has been a disappointment. Let’s hope Daytona is the confidence builder he needed and we may see him sneak in a win before the seasons over 

yz133rider wrote:
Man if brayton, josh hill, ap, Barcia, Malcolm, and many more can pull off a 450 win I don’t see what I coop can’t. He puts...

Man if brayton, josh hill, ap, Barcia, Malcolm, and many more can pull off a 450 win I don’t see what I coop can’t. He puts himself in great positions with his killer starts, he sprints extremely well, he’s smart and has good race craft.


If he nails a start you really don’t think he could make a break for it while some of the other favorites have to slice their way to the front?

On a track that suits him I could see that happening. I was wrong with thinking Malcolm would never win one. I just feel a great night for JC is 4-6 right now at this point of his career

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3/6/2025 7:55am
OwenJakes wrote:
No i get it. You could do that with every bike though. Apart from the shock, the bike is fine. I even hand started mine this weekend...

No i get it. You could do that with every bike though. 

Apart from the shock, the bike is fine. I even hand started mine this weekend lol. It is the easiest starting bike. I know this because I dirt sampled it twice too!! Can't argue with the heavy thing though. Ironically it feels lighter in my hand than my YZ250 for some reason (i dont load my bike with a ramp).

 

The reason the suzuki digs get under my skin is because it's just magazine parroting mostly and i guess that bothers me. It's a very modern machine and it is so sick to ride. Yes - I am biased though. The "raw ingredients" this bike brings to the table are definitely some of the best. The "prepared dish" was not executed as it should have been by the factory -  that is certain.

LungButter wrote:

You're not wrong man, it's a solid steed all things considered.  Grip it and rip it!

My first bikes were all suzukis. I'm definitelty not biased or nostalgically possessed, nope, couldnt be me..

😂

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3/6/2025 10:17am
OwenJakes wrote:
No i get it. You could do that with every bike though. Apart from the shock, the bike is fine. I even hand started mine this weekend...

No i get it. You could do that with every bike though. 

Apart from the shock, the bike is fine. I even hand started mine this weekend lol. It is the easiest starting bike. I know this because I dirt sampled it twice too!! Can't argue with the heavy thing though. Ironically it feels lighter in my hand than my YZ250 for some reason (i dont load my bike with a ramp).

 

The reason the suzuki digs get under my skin is because it's just magazine parroting mostly and i guess that bothers me. It's a very modern machine and it is so sick to ride. Yes - I am biased though. The "raw ingredients" this bike brings to the table are definitely some of the best. The "prepared dish" was not executed as it should have been by the factory -  that is certain.

LungButter wrote:

You're not wrong man, it's a solid steed all things considered.  Grip it and rip it!

OwenJakes wrote:

My first bikes were all suzukis. I'm definitelty not biased or nostalgically possessed, nope, couldnt be me..

😂

The first dirt bike I ever rode was a JR50, then a DS80 and my first bike was a 1991 RM80. So I understand the Suzuki nostalgia. I've been looking for a 91 RM80 to collect for a while now. 

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3/6/2025 10:23am Edited Date/Time 3/6/2025 10:26am

Under the radar is Mitchell Harrison., no he is not a threat to win but this kid is putting it into the main events nearly every round, I think this is only his second year in the 450 class. Also he gets zero credit when they are talking about him on TV.. I think he is the most consistent of the bottom 7 riders... 

Austin Forkner (but let me clarify) He is a disappointment and a victory all in one. I am glad to see him get through the first few rounds without injury, but he looks off. It's not the same Austin from before the surgery. I hope he makes a full recovery because that kid does things on a bike that blow your mind. But sadly this may be all he has after brain surgery. 

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3/6/2025 10:31am Edited Date/Time 3/6/2025 10:36am

Impressed: Kenny and his **bike. Webb, just solid.

Disappointing: Eli, injury. Prado, injury. Sexton, inconsistency. 

**I am also a closet Suzuki nostalgia fan. RM-80s (78, 79, 80), RM-125s (80, 81-best bike ever, 2006), RM 250 (82). Also had a number of Hondas, though I am not particularly nostalgic to the brand. XR-75 (ok, maybe a little nostalgic for this one), CR-125 (83), CR-480 (83), CR-250 (2004 - what were they thinking with that engine???), CRF-250R (2008? - worst bike ever. Slow, heavy, felt even heavier)

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3/6/2025 4:47pm Edited Date/Time 3/6/2025 4:52pm

Disappointments:

Anderson - cooked bum

Vialle (getting better) - Charmin soft

Chase (duh) - basket case

AP - ???

 

Impressed:

Beaumer

Anstie 

Davies

Officer Hill

Roczen

Webb

 

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3/6/2025 7:38pm
Jub wrote:

Disappointments:

Anderson - cooked bum

Vialle (getting better) - Charmin soft

Chase (duh) - basket case

AP - ???

 

Impressed:

Beaumer

Anstie 

Davies

Officer Hill

Roczen

Webb

 

Soft as charmin bruh, that’s pretty funny

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