Why do they make the AM Day Daytona track so lame?

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I was watching the Video of Alessi crash and the AM track looks like shit... Why do they make it so lame for AM Guys? They only run a very small section of the SX track and remove a lot of obstacles. I get knocking the jumps & Whoops down, but damn not even really Daytona.. I would be pissed if I traveled to race Daytona and I got a backyard track.. 

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I am way off or does it look like Shit?

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3/4/2025 3:30pm

Glad you posted this.  Was looking to check this off of the bucket list with some buds from California.  If I drove there expecting to ride the whole track.....  that would have hurt.

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Lack of available ambulances?

Too many entries to run the whole track? No one would get home before Easter. 

Maybe get good enough to qualify for the real show?

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You forgot one poll option 

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Kyle_202
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Lack of available ambulances?Too many entries to run the whole track? No one would get home before Easter. Maybe get good enough to qualify for the real...

Lack of available ambulances?

Too many entries to run the whole track? No one would get home before Easter. 

Maybe get good enough to qualify for the real show?

Oh, if I showed up Kenny and the rest of the boys would be in trouble. But sad to say I pulled a hammy a few days ago and going to have to go back and have some PT before I am back at full tornado speed again... 😀

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Then why you complainin'? You couldn't ride the whole track with a pulled hammy 😁😁

It's the pulled pork sandwiches that make me like a short easy track 🤣🤣

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3/4/2025 3:59pm Edited Date/Time 3/4/2025 4:02pm
Then why you complainin'? You couldn't ride the whole track with a pulled hammy 😁😁It's the pulled pork sandwiches that make me like a short easy...

Then why you complainin'? You couldn't ride the whole track with a pulled hammy 😁😁

It's the pulled pork sandwiches that make me like a short easy track 🤣🤣

Speaking of which, who’s got an easy slow cooker recipe that I can use to make some bbq pulled pork or beef? I found a random pork chop recipe in a race thread a couple years ago. May as well ask here for a new crock pot one Grinning

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Gator 4 wrote:
Glad you posted this.  Was looking to check this off of the bucket list with some buds from California.  If I drove there expecting to ride...

Glad you posted this.  Was looking to check this off of the bucket list with some buds from California.  If I drove there expecting to ride the whole track.....  that would have hurt.

I went last year with a buddy to watch on Monday, I know they got a ton of rain last year and thought oh that is why the track is so small. I know it is just cool to ride Daytona even if it was a track with no jumps but the way it has been built up for the RC Race etc.. thought it would of had a better more professional feel.. As for me being fast enough, I would not make one lap around the real track... 

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Then why you complainin'? You couldn't ride the whole track with a pulled hammy 😁😁It's the pulled pork sandwiches that make me like a short easy...

Then why you complainin'? You couldn't ride the whole track with a pulled hammy 😁😁

It's the pulled pork sandwiches that make me like a short easy track 🤣🤣

aeffertz wrote:
Speaking of which, who’s got an easy slow cooker recipe that I can use to make some bbq pulled pork or beef? I found a random...

Speaking of which, who’s got an easy slow cooker recipe that I can use to make some bbq pulled pork or beef? I found a random pork chop recipe in a race thread a couple years ago. May as well ask here for a new crock pot one Grinning

If you’re looking to branch out a bit I have an al pastor slow cooker recipe for pulled pork that’s amazing. Little different obviously but in the same family if you will 

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Then why you complainin'? You couldn't ride the whole track with a pulled hammy 😁😁It's the pulled pork sandwiches that make me like a short easy...

Then why you complainin'? You couldn't ride the whole track with a pulled hammy 😁😁

It's the pulled pork sandwiches that make me like a short easy track 🤣🤣

aeffertz wrote:
Speaking of which, who’s got an easy slow cooker recipe that I can use to make some bbq pulled pork or beef? I found a random...

Speaking of which, who’s got an easy slow cooker recipe that I can use to make some bbq pulled pork or beef? I found a random pork chop recipe in a race thread a couple years ago. May as well ask here for a new crock pot one Grinning

zehn wrote:
If you’re looking to branch out a bit I have an al pastor slow cooker recipe for pulled pork that’s amazing. Little different obviously but in...

If you’re looking to branch out a bit I have an al pastor slow cooker recipe for pulled pork that’s amazing. Little different obviously but in the same family if you will 

Hit me with it. Preferably something I can source locally, I’m sure the stuff linked above is good but I don’t have the patience for that Grinning


I’ll try it tomorrow!

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This BBQ talk is the best thing to come out of this thread.👍

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3/4/2025 7:04pm

Some years they do a good job making it challenging but safe. This year they just went for safe. Nothing about it was an amateur sx. 

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3/5/2025 4:39am

Because there would be bodies stacked along the track. 

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Its a huge money grab  for the “ grow the sport” types…. Last few years I did the Vintage day because I like seeing the old bikes, they blow you out quickly, its really just a supporting role to the quad races…but those 2$ “Major Event” plaques are sick👌

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It's for safety. I'm going to give you guys some personal experience: 

In 2003, I raced the amateur day at the San Diego Supercross. It was the day after the race, and the bulldozers had gone out and flattened the whoops by a huge amount, removed the first jump from all the triples, and cleaned up all the lines. Now, at the time I was a winning +30 Intermediate, but I was barely able to get around that track on my first few laps of practice. Supercross is a whole other animal, and not everyone is going to be able to handle it. Especially not the 125 C class. I can't even imagine that type of track in the sandy infield at Daytona!

They just want to make sure they're not carting kids off on stretchers all day long. 

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Because there would be bodies stacked along the track. 

Just to be clear with everyone, it’s not really about the obstacles—it’s more about the overall look and layout. If they had knocked the jumps down, made the whoops into rollers, and kept the design of the track to look like a real SX track but with mellowed-out obstacles, it would have been much better. But instead, the track looks like an afterthought.

I completely agree that if they had left the track like the pros ride, there wouldn’t be a single AM alive to talk about it. 

 

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even though it is extremely tamed down id still love to go race it just to say i did. i think racing the vintage class would be pretty cool. 

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levimx22 wrote:
even though it is extremely tamed down id still love to go race it just to say i did. i think racing the vintage class would...

even though it is extremely tamed down id still love to go race it just to say i did. i think racing the vintage class would be pretty cool. 

I raced the last Amateur day race at the Metrodome back in 1996. Glad I did, and I like the trophy, but the hardest part of the day was starting the KX outside when it was 25 below.

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I raced the Daytona Amateur SX a few times, last was probably 2015. I haven't seen this year's track for comparison, but it was knocked down and shortened when I raced it. The track got rough enough that I wasn't wishing for any bigger obstacles! Yes, it's probably tamed down more than necessary for the top guys in fastest classes but for the majority of classes it was fine. A simpler track tends to make for closer racing and better battles since you can focus on racing the track rather than worrying about hitting big obstacles. Also keep in mind that bikes as small as 50s or 60s were racing there too.

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zehn wrote:
If you’re looking to branch out a bit I have an al pastor slow cooker recipe for pulled pork that’s amazing. Little different obviously but in...

If you’re looking to branch out a bit I have an al pastor slow cooker recipe for pulled pork that’s amazing. Little different obviously but in the same family if you will 

You guys crushed it again.  Vital  is 2-2 on the recipesGrinning

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Ask Alessi how lame the track was … i’m pretty sure he would have a different opinion. 

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I raced the very last am day at the Georgia dome before they imploded it and they turned that track into a turd. It was a cool experience to race in the dome but past that it wasn’t much. 

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I raced the Astrodome in the 90s and all they did was push up dirt on the face of the triples where you couldn't try to triple. We raced the morning before the race starting at about 6:00, so they didn't have time to make too many changes. They didn't have the afternoon program like they have now, just the qualifiers at night.

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sandman768 wrote:
Its a huge money grab  for the “ grow the sport” types…. Last few years I did the Vintage day because I like seeing the old...

Its a huge money grab  for the “ grow the sport” types…. Last few years I did the Vintage day because I like seeing the old bikes, they blow you out quickly, its really just a supporting role to the quad races…but those 2$ “Major Event” plaques are sick👌

All this "growing the sport" stuff is making it awfully hard for me to participate in it lol

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3/6/2025 10:18am Edited Date/Time 3/6/2025 10:19am

1984 Foxboro SX Am day I raced 125C, legit C as first year of MX racing.  I think I bounced off the track countless times.  They probably reduced the jumps and whoops height but it was like nothing I'd ever ridden before. No triples or quads but no walk in the park, for me anyway.  Here is a pic from an easier section.  No tough block to complain about just a nice stake to my left. Looks like the cleaning crew in the old Patriots stadium didn't get to work.SX Am

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