Staggered Starts...

The top 3 should be able to keep their gap with a staggered start.  Let them go one at a time based on the gap they had when the red flag flew.

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ddog558
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2/15/2025 2:21pm

Someone had money on this race...

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Kyzer138
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2/15/2025 2:21pm
ddog558 wrote:

Someone had money on this race...

Dumbest comment

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2/15/2025 2:22pm

I don’t even have words. Anstie got screwed

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2/15/2025 2:22pm

That was absolute bullshit. This rule needs changed.

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2/15/2025 2:22pm

I’m chuckling. If you were in their shoes you’d take that staggered start to your advantage

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2/15/2025 2:23pm
ddog558 wrote:

Someone had money on this race...

Actually, I have Kitchen on my team.  But I don't like seeing someone get robbed when they've done the work to build a gap out front.

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2/15/2025 2:23pm

kitchen needs to split that win with macadoo

 

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IMO that rule needs to change.   If 90% of the race is completed, call it a race.   Not that i'm an Anstie fan, but man he got screwed with that.

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2/15/2025 2:24pm

Total bullshit. Less than a minute/lap left in the rest and you bunch them up? 

 

Bullshit. 

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2/15/2025 2:24pm

My whole family is watching and yelling at the tv… unbelievable 

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2/15/2025 2:24pm

AMA continues to be a fkn joke. Where's the 90% race complete red flag rule? Race is over after 90% complete...

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2/15/2025 2:25pm

Love Kitchen, but just end the race if it’s red flagged with 7 seconds left. Like what are we doing?

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7 Seconds left on the clock with a 6 second lead. Thats outrageous to do a staggered start. Just call the race or give similar gaps. 

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its too bad gates can't be dropped individually digitally. would be great to line them back up and drop gates one at a time in order and u could build the delay into the drops. 

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HonDawg17 wrote:

AMA continues to be a fkn joke. Where's the 90% race complete red flag rule? Race is over after 90% complete...

With 7 seconds, its 99% of the clock burned.

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If there’s no maximum time elapsed before a staggered restart is triggered, what happens if the race is stopped when they’re on the last lap?

2/15/2025 3:00pm

It's possible we might have had the same situation in the 450 class had there been the same red flag situation......Sexton could have got handed a gift like Kitchen did.

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2/15/2025 3:01pm

Red flags in Motorsport always have the field pulled back close ,  it’s part of the game 

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2/15/2025 3:04pm
Robgvx wrote:

If there’s no maximum time elapsed before a staggered restart is triggered, what happens if the race is stopped when they’re on the last lap?

It’s declared after the clock down to 0 

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2/15/2025 3:04pm
HonDawg17 wrote:

AMA continues to be a fkn joke. Where's the 90% race complete red flag rule? Race is over after 90% complete...

Changed for 2025 per the 2025 AMA Supercross rule book.

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The top 3 should be able to keep their gap with a staggered start.  Let them go one at a time based on the gap they...

The top 3 should be able to keep their gap with a staggered start.  Let them go one at a time based on the gap they had when the red flag flew.

I always wonder why the lead rider in a staggered start does not hold for a second on the green flag. Everyone would flinch and then the lead rider could take off.  If the second place rider were to jump past the chalk line, that would be a penalty.   Not very practical but I'd love to see someone do it.

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2/15/2025 7:47pm

Kitchen nailed that restart. Seems most just roll forward but he was on the gas full charge. Even though that was the case Max held him off and I believe he would’ve kept the lead had he took the inside in the sand corner. I’m sure he was flustered but he gave that away 

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2/16/2025 2:46am Edited Date/Time 2/16/2025 2:47am

I was hoping Max would have sold a dummy when the flag dropped. Jump for a few inches without crossing the line. Cause the rest to jump then go. 

Argue the details out in the ama truck afterwards. 

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Coly243 wrote:
I was hoping Max would have sold a dummy when the flag dropped. Jump for a few inches without crossing the line. Cause the rest to...

I was hoping Max would have sold a dummy when the flag dropped. Jump for a few inches without crossing the line. Cause the rest to jump then go. 

Argue the details out in the ama truck afterwards. 

I keep waiting for someone to do that.  Make the riders behind jump/reset and then roost them off the line.  

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2/16/2025 11:17am Edited Date/Time 2/16/2025 2:08pm

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the rules.

The AMA made a bad judgement call imo. They should have let the race clock get to zero, and then red flagged it. Or get MacAdoo to the side of the track and continue the race. He obviously didn’t mind laying around, why not give him an extra minute or so? 

 

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2/16/2025 12:03pm
HonDawg17 wrote:

AMA continues to be a fkn joke. Where's the 90% race complete red flag rule? Race is over after 90% complete...

They just changed it, seems nobody but the ama goobers knew?

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2/16/2025 12:05pm
HonDawg17 wrote:

AMA continues to be a fkn joke. Where's the 90% race complete red flag rule? Race is over after 90% complete...

They just changed it, seems nobody but the ama goobers knew?

they changed it 18 months ago, and any race team should have read the rule book

 

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2/16/2025 12:09pm
The top 3 should be able to keep their gap with a staggered start.  Let them go one at a time based on the gap they...

The top 3 should be able to keep their gap with a staggered start.  Let them go one at a time based on the gap they had when the red flag flew.

100%

...I would say any significant gap within the top 10 needs to be given back. 

It would not be hard at all to implement this.     The time does not need to be perfect...close enough is good enough. 

This was Ansties race....Levi was clearly beaten.     I will never see it any other way. 

 

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yak651
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2/16/2025 12:57pm
HonDawg17 wrote:

AMA continues to be a fkn joke. Where's the 90% race complete red flag rule? Race is over after 90% complete...

They just changed it, seems nobody but the ama goobers knew?

scott_nz wrote:

they changed it 18 months ago, and any race team should have read the rule book

 

And the tv crew or at least some advisor to the crew should also read it. Pretty sad when RC is saying he doesn’t know what is going on out there…

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