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Currently my estimated completion of production is February 8 with arrival date to my house on March 10. I ordered mine on January 1. curious if anyone else purchased their bike earlier than me or had a earlier production/delivery date and has received any kind of communication of a advancement in the process to show that you are on track as expected.
Not quite what you were asking - but I ordered mine on January 2nd, payment completed on January 9th, and have a delivery date of March 31. It was initially in the middle of March but once it "entered production" it got pushed back to the 31st. In an interview Anton Wass (CEO) seemed pretty confident that this process would go more smoothly than the original Varg rollout because they are prioritizing fully paid orders... we'll see!
The Varg EX is going to be a fun bike to own. Likely mine ends up on an MX track once in a while. We'll see how that horn goes over when riders get reeled in. Meep meep.
Where are you seeing the status change of where you’re at in the process and/or the updated delivery date?
I have mine on order thru 3Bros in Costa Mesa supposed to come in 2 week in March
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I’d buy one immediately if I could get a straight answer from them regarding which states are road legal. Their statement of “California and some other states will have to wait a little longer” isn’t very encouraging. I’ve emailed twice and can only get generic answers of which states are/are not legal currently.
I'm looking on the https://starkfuture.com/orders/my page. The "estimated delivery date" column was updated when I got my email from Stark Future about the bike starting production. Otherwise I don't have any other info. I bought mine through Ekho Dealer when I pre-ordered it on the Stark site.
Has Stark stated what cells are in the battery? I was close to buying an EX but they wouldn't say what cells were in the battery, made comments about having to pay the full price up front to get a build date, and seemed a bit not on top of things. I already have a home built electric so went with a new 350 exc instead with the crazy end of 2024 rebates. Stark seems a bit unstable to be trusted with $13k and nothing immediate to show for it other than a build date that I'm sure will shift out.
Purchase date: Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 2:53 PM (EST)
Vehicle stage: Production
Est. production completion: Fri, Jan 10, 2025
Est. delivery date: Mon, Mar 3, 2025
VIN# 130ish
I got a VIN# about a month ago so i thought that might be the born on date but I don't think so because it stills says the Stage is Production.
My delivery date has never changed.
I didn't get any notice that production had started.
If my bike was expected to be made Jan 10 and now it's in production, then i think they are about a month late.
Total speculation.
-->As for insurance, my Farmer's Agent couldn't find a carrier. Progressive is all set up for the EX, very easy.
They want proof of insurance as part of the buying process. So here is where i am at-
Paperwork: We are busy auditing your information and generating your final paperwork. We'll notify you via email once this information has been received and you can continue.
Something to note is that buyers who pay in full get faster delivery. It's totally understandable but maybe not well known so i mention it.
STOKED FOR THE EX!!! I have patience for the bike because i know that Stark is doing everything possible to get them out the doors.
My understanding is your paperwork will not progress until your bike has landed stateside because once they progress from that’s when your payments get initiated.
The part that I’m concerned about is you haven’t got any updates after January 10 about production progress. Makes me worried that I won’t hear anything about mine either.
Did you get a VIN# yet? Did anyone else?
Yep, I got my vin a few weeks ago
Anyone who pays up front is given the guarantee of first bikes delivered. The EX rollout is on a limited quantity in the beginning, so find a dealer who has guaranteed bikes coming and claim one.
Can you explain to me the difference between paying upfront and financing the bike. Stark gets the money all at once in both scenarios. It’s not like they financed the loan for me.
Yes, the company ultimately gets paid the full price whether a customer finances the bike or pays in full upfront. However, there are a few reasons why Stark Future might prioritize customers who pay in full:
Immediate Cash Flow – When a customer pays in full, the company gets the money instantly, which improves their liquidity. With financing, they may receive payments in installments or have to wait for third-party lenders to process funds.
Less Risk – If financing is handled through a third party (like a bank or lender), there could be delays, credit denials, or complications. Upfront payments eliminate that uncertainty.
Lower Transaction Fees – Some financing deals involve processing fees, interest, or cuts taken by lenders, which might slightly reduce the company's actual profit per unit.
Supply Chain and Production Efficiency – Prioritizing full-payment customers could help the company streamline production and delivery, ensuring they don’t overextend resources for customers who may not fully complete their financing.
Exclusive Perks for Early Adopters – If Stark Future is positioning itself as a premium or innovative brand, prioritizing full-payment customers might be a strategy to create exclusivity and reward committed buyers.
While it might seem unfair to those financing, it’s ultimately a business decision to secure guaranteed revenue and smooth production.
Did you do this with ChatGPT or are you this articulate?
Plus I'm pretty sure 7eleven was not talking about financing, it's just that paying in full gives you priority compared to folks who preordered but did not pay full price yet.
Has anyone figured out if the battery is improved over the MX version and what real world expectations could be for road miles? I’m also struggling to find which states they will be legal to plate in.
They are saying 20% better, as soon as I get mine, I’m going to do a road test and I’ll let you know.
Pit Row
I can't wait to get one but refuse to buy the first year of anything. I also want to see real world battery life on the road.
gpt4o 100%
10% more capacity and they claim 20% more range thanks to software.
Range should be decent for woods (like 2.5 h GNCC) but straight line speed and constant power will kill the battery very fast on the road.
Plus no onboard charger so it's not a real road bike, can't plug anywhere, need to go back to your stand charger... it's more like they needed road homologation for some races.
Anton Wass also talked about the really improved wiring harness and connectors. (gpsy tales )
Anyone seen that ?
When I emailed Stark, they forwarded it over to a USA rep that told me it’s 50 state legal. I don’t believe him, and Stark themselves in fine print state it currently isn’t. When I pushed harder, the rep referred me to Ekho.com. Somehow the sale runs through them and they handle any registration and paperwork. I asked them about which states it’s legal in, and they couldn’t answer.
what makes me more sceptical is I have a direct from China Surron Ultra Bee. It has all necessary lights/signals/horn, yet it’s not registerable in USA. What I think/speculate has to happen is it has to pass federal testing before they give their blessing for road use. I don’t think the Stark has done that yet if so.
Anton in numerous interviews says the hardest part of the ex has beed dealing with all the different regulations in each state.
Ask Sam the bot on the stark website- "The Stark VARG EX is fully homologated for road use in the United States. This means it meets all necessary safety, performance, and environmental standards, allowing you to ride it legally on public roads across the entire country."
This is the brilliance of the Varg EX. It went through all the tests anf jumped all the hoops. This is why the EX is a freak. And why surrons will be always be illegal.
The investment of time and energy to make this dualsport happen will pay off in future models like supermoto.
I would love to hear the story of how they pulled this off. How knows maybe they are still working on some states.
My sense is that Stark would not let you order a bike in a state that wasn't good to go in. This is all uncharted waters and i have zero fear.
Side note on insurance- I got a denial letter today from Foremost Insurance, they said- "The 2025 Stark EX is an unacceptable vehicle based on design." And that was for an off-road policy apparently...
The wiring harness is at 18:15
Something to think about... anyone looking to ride it around town and park it outside. I've always put an apple air tag on my street bikes. It's too damn easy for kooks to grab and go at 264lbs. Yes, if the phone is on, it'll will be gps tracked, but if they toss the phone or it's off, you're screwed. #airtag
I was just wondering this yesterday, if I ride it to work, is there nothing to stop anybody from just hopping on it and riding away?
Is there an easy way to charge it while you’re at work?
They need to make some saddle bags or rear rack to carry the charger separate from the stand when riding on the road.
Seemingly not good news… This is the email I got when asking for an update after my production date had come and went.
I hope this email finds you well.
Thank you for your patience and for reaching out with your concerns regarding the delivery of your Stark VARG EX. We understand the frustration that a delay can cause, especially when eagerly awaiting something as significant as your new bike. I want to provide you with some insight into the reasons behind the delay:
At Stark Future, our commitment to delivering top-quality products sometimes requires additional time to ensure that everything is up to our high standards. Specifically, a few key parts took longer than expected to arrive due to global shipping delays, which has impacted our production timeline. More over, as we scale our production to meet demand, we are also intensifying our quality checks. Our commitment is to ensure that despite the ramp-up, every bike that leaves our facility meets the highest standards of quality, guaranteeing that you receive the best product possible.
We are focused on getting your bike to you as quickly as possible while maintaining the quality you expect from us. We will keep you updated on the progress of your order and inform you as soon as it is ready for shipment.
If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us. Thank you for your understanding and support.
Best regards,
Stark Future Team
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