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You didn’t do much research then… that rod and piston would drop right in. Carrillo makes a great product (we’re running custom jgr spec’ed rods from them in 250’s), but they don’t update their catalog much for Suzukis for obvious reasons. Both bikes use the same rod spec since forever. The OEM rod goes back to 2014, and the pro-x goes back to all EFI rods. The length, width, and pin diameters haven’t changed, so why wouldn’t it work?
My bigger question is why you felt you needed that billet rod? As long as we don’t go crazy with the rev limiter we get plenty of time out of the oem rod. Heck, HEP was on stock rods in their 450’s until the last couple years. I’m not sure if JGR ran a billet rod in their race bikes, but here’s a build sheet of a 2017 engine that was still being ran as recently as 9/16/2020 by Tickle as a practice motor. All the parts in this column with “28H” are oem from 2017 (18 and up engines would be marked “37K” or whatever code is stamped on oem heads, I only have head build sheets for 2018+). JGR was running OEM 450 rods 30 hours just fine (second column is service limits).
Frankly, my team is on RMZ’s because of cost efficiency. I can remap and revalve a 450 and have a happy camper. Jake Masterpool’s only other addition is a high compression, off the shelf JE piston (13.5:1), and a slightly tweaked version of the PC map in the OEM box using the WiFi tuner. He’s even running the bfrc on outdoors and just used the kyb for ax/sx because it was easier for his tuner to find a setting. Travis Smith’s setting is even simpler, just a vortex by twisted.
So a feller can buy a 450 for 6500-7k, run it two seasons, and sell it for 4k. Thats not a pipe dream, myself and dirt bike mike have done that exact thing for several years now with this arenacross program. My 21 model gasgas MC250F and 450? Paid full retail in 2021, sold for $4700 & $4200 two years later. Took a WAY bigger hit. Not to mention I’d take a BFRC shock all day and twice on Sunday over that air fork. My first thought when I rode the gasgas bikes was “craaaaaaap I made a mistake”. I eventually got comfortable on them, but the Suzuki’s just immediately felt like home. So I’m going to laugh at the “5x better” comment. It may be the bike you’re more comfortable on, but lap time to lap time I doubt there’s much deviation.
Ok, hopping off my soap box now.
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I don’t see a starter button on Kenny’s A1 bike.
Could very well be the other way around shortly enough 😜
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Well it was a joke poking fun at a thread about it
Hmm yea I just went and looked and I dont either. Wtf steve matthes, you lied to us? You got some explaining to do….
Kids on 85's kickstarting their bike would smoke 60% of this forum.
Let Suzuki have their piece of the market, hopefully we have some other affordable option soon. Cost is going to kill the amateur scene eventually.
I gotta say that really pops 👀
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I honestly would have ended up on a new rmz this past year but they wouldn’t budge off 8600$. I walked away with a new Honda 450 for $7600. I would have preferred the Zuki due to the reliability and parts are very plentiful and will be for years to come. I don’t get to ride enough and don’t do the next bike every three years thing regardless.
Yeah, good decision.
That doesn't seem right at all. 8600 is more than Suzuki is asking post rebate, taxes, and fees in most jurisdictions.
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