2024 Kawasaki KX450 and KX450X

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49weasel wrote:
I know this is a retarded question.. I want KYB forks and recently found a new set of 23 rmz250 forks for cheap. Minus the lugs...

I know this is a retarded question.. I want KYB forks and recently found a new set of 23 rmz250 forks for cheap. Minus the lugs does anyone know if the measurements line up ?

Jusy buy my KYB forks I have on my 24/25 kx 450 😎 should be listing some parts here soon from this bike .IMG 1745 0

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1/6/2025 5:17am
49weasel wrote:
I know this is a retarded question.. I want KYB forks and recently found a new set of 23 rmz250 forks for cheap. Minus the lugs...

I know this is a retarded question.. I want KYB forks and recently found a new set of 23 rmz250 forks for cheap. Minus the lugs does anyone know if the measurements line up ?

According to JBI.. the new 24 KX Showa is virtually identical to the KYB’s? 

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1/6/2025 5:51am
49weasel wrote:
I know this is a retarded question.. I want KYB forks and recently found a new set of 23 rmz250 forks for cheap. Minus the lugs...

I know this is a retarded question.. I want KYB forks and recently found a new set of 23 rmz250 forks for cheap. Minus the lugs does anyone know if the measurements line up ?

JkopMx wrote:
Jusy buy my KYB forks I have on my 24/25 kx 450 😎 should be listing some parts here soon from this bike .

Jusy buy my KYB forks I have on my 24/25 kx 450 😎 should be listing some parts here soon from this bike .IMG 1745 0

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1/6/2025 6:13am
49weasel wrote:
I know this is a retarded question.. I want KYB forks and recently found a new set of 23 rmz250 forks for cheap. Minus the lugs...

I know this is a retarded question.. I want KYB forks and recently found a new set of 23 rmz250 forks for cheap. Minus the lugs does anyone know if the measurements line up ?

JkopMx wrote:
Jusy buy my KYB forks I have on my 24/25 kx 450 😎 should be listing some parts here soon from this bike .

Jusy buy my KYB forks I have on my 24/25 kx 450 😎 should be listing some parts here soon from this bike .IMG 1745 0

Doing a complete part out or just a few things? 

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1/6/2025 8:46am
JazzyJJ wrote:

Doing a complete part out or just a few things? 

Just all the aftermarket parts . Pipe - forks. Pegs wheels. Vortex ECU - X trig clamps - twin air PowerFlow 

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Doing a complete part out or just a few things? 

JkopMx wrote:

Just all the aftermarket parts . Pipe - forks. Pegs wheels. Vortex ECU - X trig clamps - twin air PowerFlow 

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1/7/2025 7:53am

Just pulled the trigger on a leftover 24! Excited to get back on kawis after being on an Austrian bike the last few years.  I probably already know the answer to this but is there any hope in keeping the stock springs for a 165lb 40+b rider? 

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1/7/2025 8:20am
Just pulled the trigger on a leftover 24! Excited to get back on kawis after being on an Austrian bike the last few years.  I probably...

Just pulled the trigger on a leftover 24! Excited to get back on kawis after being on an Austrian bike the last few years.  I probably already know the answer to this but is there any hope in keeping the stock springs for a 165lb 40+b rider? 

You should be fine with the stock springs. These come a little undersprung from the factory. I'm 195 A Offroad and I went up a rate on both ends.

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1/7/2025 10:07am
Just pulled the trigger on a leftover 24! Excited to get back on kawis after being on an Austrian bike the last few years.  I probably...

Just pulled the trigger on a leftover 24! Excited to get back on kawis after being on an Austrian bike the last few years.  I probably already know the answer to this but is there any hope in keeping the stock springs for a 165lb 40+b rider? 

I bet that might be just right. 

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Just pulled the trigger on a leftover 24! Excited to get back on kawis after being on an Austrian bike the last few years.  I probably...

Just pulled the trigger on a leftover 24! Excited to get back on kawis after being on an Austrian bike the last few years.  I probably already know the answer to this but is there any hope in keeping the stock springs for a 165lb 40+b rider? 

Forks will feel amazing but I’d go down a spring rate on the shock. Unless you can dial it in really well but you want be able to hit the static/race sag numbers quite like you want 

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1/8/2025 12:30pm Edited Date/Time 1/8/2025 12:32pm
Just pulled the trigger on a leftover 24! Excited to get back on kawis after being on an Austrian bike the last few years.  I probably...

Just pulled the trigger on a leftover 24! Excited to get back on kawis after being on an Austrian bike the last few years.  I probably already know the answer to this but is there any hope in keeping the stock springs for a 165lb 40+b rider? 

alycium102 wrote:
Forks will feel amazing but I’d go down a spring rate on the shock. Unless you can dial it in really well but you want be...

Forks will feel amazing but I’d go down a spring rate on the shock. Unless you can dial it in really well but you want be able to hit the static/race sag numbers quite like you want 

^^^This. I'm a 165 lbs 40B rider as well. I have my race sag set at 105 but I bet I'm 50ish with my static. My spring is pretty far up the threads. I talked to a tech at Factory Connection and he seemed to think it was fine to have that much static sag so I've been riding it that way for now but I think I would benefit from going down a rate. 

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Just pulled the trigger on a leftover 24! Excited to get back on kawis after being on an Austrian bike the last few years.  I probably...

Just pulled the trigger on a leftover 24! Excited to get back on kawis after being on an Austrian bike the last few years.  I probably already know the answer to this but is there any hope in keeping the stock springs for a 165lb 40+b rider? 

alycium102 wrote:
Forks will feel amazing but I’d go down a spring rate on the shock. Unless you can dial it in really well but you want be...

Forks will feel amazing but I’d go down a spring rate on the shock. Unless you can dial it in really well but you want be able to hit the static/race sag numbers quite like you want 

MXer391 wrote:
^^^This. I'm a 165 lbs 40B rider as well. I have my race sag set at 105 but I bet I'm 50ish with my static. My...

^^^This. I'm a 165 lbs 40B rider as well. I have my race sag set at 105 but I bet I'm 50ish with my static. My spring is pretty far up the threads. I talked to a tech at Factory Connection and he seemed to think it was fine to have that much static sag so I've been riding it that way for now but I think I would benefit from going down a rate. 

The forks seem ok? I figured I would have to go lighter on each end but didn’t get to ride it yet.

1/8/2025 2:09pm Edited Date/Time 1/8/2025 2:12pm
alycium102 wrote:
Forks will feel amazing but I’d go down a spring rate on the shock. Unless you can dial it in really well but you want be...

Forks will feel amazing but I’d go down a spring rate on the shock. Unless you can dial it in really well but you want be able to hit the static/race sag numbers quite like you want 

MXer391 wrote:
^^^This. I'm a 165 lbs 40B rider as well. I have my race sag set at 105 but I bet I'm 50ish with my static. My...

^^^This. I'm a 165 lbs 40B rider as well. I have my race sag set at 105 but I bet I'm 50ish with my static. My spring is pretty far up the threads. I talked to a tech at Factory Connection and he seemed to think it was fine to have that much static sag so I've been riding it that way for now but I think I would benefit from going down a rate. 

The forks seem ok? I figured I would have to go lighter on each end but didn’t get to ride it yet.

The rear spring is pretty light.  I’m a lot bigger than you, but I had to go to a 6.0 at 215lbs.  That stock spring might be just about right.  Hitting the sag/static sag numbers are all that matters.

The forks are on the soft side valving-wise, so you’re probably the guy the suspension was spec’d for.  Wish I was.  It would save me alotta money!

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MXer391 wrote:
^^^This. I'm a 165 lbs 40B rider as well. I have my race sag set at 105 but I bet I'm 50ish with my static. My...

^^^This. I'm a 165 lbs 40B rider as well. I have my race sag set at 105 but I bet I'm 50ish with my static. My spring is pretty far up the threads. I talked to a tech at Factory Connection and he seemed to think it was fine to have that much static sag so I've been riding it that way for now but I think I would benefit from going down a rate. 

The forks seem ok? I figured I would have to go lighter on each end but didn’t get to ride it yet.

The rear spring is pretty light.  I’m a lot bigger than you, but I had to go to a 6.0 at 215lbs.  That stock spring might...

The rear spring is pretty light.  I’m a lot bigger than you, but I had to go to a 6.0 at 215lbs.  That stock spring might be just about right.  Hitting the sag/static sag numbers are all that matters.

The forks are on the soft side valving-wise, so you’re probably the guy the suspension was spec’d for.  Wish I was.  It would save me alotta money!

We're similar in weight, what did you go to up front?

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alycium102 wrote:
Forks will feel amazing but I’d go down a spring rate on the shock. Unless you can dial it in really well but you want be...

Forks will feel amazing but I’d go down a spring rate on the shock. Unless you can dial it in really well but you want be able to hit the static/race sag numbers quite like you want 

MXer391 wrote:
^^^This. I'm a 165 lbs 40B rider as well. I have my race sag set at 105 but I bet I'm 50ish with my static. My...

^^^This. I'm a 165 lbs 40B rider as well. I have my race sag set at 105 but I bet I'm 50ish with my static. My spring is pretty far up the threads. I talked to a tech at Factory Connection and he seemed to think it was fine to have that much static sag so I've been riding it that way for now but I think I would benefit from going down a rate. 

The forks seem ok? I figured I would have to go lighter on each end but didn’t get to ride it yet.

Yeah the fork felt good to me anyway. I left the fork springs stick and had my guy play around with internals and got it to me is really swell like. That stock shock spring wanted to boot me over the bars a lot. We went out on hi speed quite a ways on the stock one and it was better but not quite where I wanted or needed. 

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1/9/2025 8:58am
rpm.15 wrote:

I got the FMF 4.1 slip on and Twin air kit. No bog. I also run the spark arrestor. Bikes been really good. 

Does it have a whistle to it? Mine had a bad whistle as well. I’m wondering if it didn’t make a good seal with the header. 

rpm.15 wrote:

No whistle, sounds like it should. 

Hai cambiato mappatura usando Fmf 4.1?

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MXer391 wrote:
^^^This. I'm a 165 lbs 40B rider as well. I have my race sag set at 105 but I bet I'm 50ish with my static. My...

^^^This. I'm a 165 lbs 40B rider as well. I have my race sag set at 105 but I bet I'm 50ish with my static. My spring is pretty far up the threads. I talked to a tech at Factory Connection and he seemed to think it was fine to have that much static sag so I've been riding it that way for now but I think I would benefit from going down a rate. 

The forks seem ok? I figured I would have to go lighter on each end but didn’t get to ride it yet.

alycium102 wrote:
Yeah the fork felt good to me anyway. I left the fork springs stick and had my guy play around with internals and got it to...

Yeah the fork felt good to me anyway. I left the fork springs stick and had my guy play around with internals and got it to me is really swell like. That stock shock spring wanted to boot me over the bars a lot. We went out on hi speed quite a ways on the stock one and it was better but not quite where I wanted or needed. 

The stock shock kicks like hell. I’ve gone for a ride more than once. 

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Does the 25, need the muffler mods like the 24?

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The forks seem ok? I figured I would have to go lighter on each end but didn’t get to ride it yet.

alycium102 wrote:
Yeah the fork felt good to me anyway. I left the fork springs stick and had my guy play around with internals and got it to...

Yeah the fork felt good to me anyway. I left the fork springs stick and had my guy play around with internals and got it to me is really swell like. That stock shock spring wanted to boot me over the bars a lot. We went out on hi speed quite a ways on the stock one and it was better but not quite where I wanted or needed. 

Duke28 wrote:

The stock shock kicks like hell. I’ve gone for a ride more than once. 

Glad I’m not the only one with this experience and I’m 170 pounds. We tried about 2 turns out in hi speed before we just went to a softer shock. Now it’s amazing. 

1/10/2025 3:35am
DB505 wrote:

Does the 25, need the muffler mods like the 24?

The modded muffler sounds like ass.  Just get a slip on.

1/10/2025 3:58am

The forks seem ok? I figured I would have to go lighter on each end but didn’t get to ride it yet.

The rear spring is pretty light.  I’m a lot bigger than you, but I had to go to a 6.0 at 215lbs.  That stock spring might...

The rear spring is pretty light.  I’m a lot bigger than you, but I had to go to a 6.0 at 215lbs.  That stock spring might be just about right.  Hitting the sag/static sag numbers are all that matters.

The forks are on the soft side valving-wise, so you’re probably the guy the suspension was spec’d for.  Wish I was.  It would save me alotta money!

JazzyJJ wrote:

We're similar in weight, what did you go to up front?

I went from the stock 5.0Nm to the optional stiffer OEM 5.2Nms.  With stock valving, this worked for me, but I’m 6’3”.  If you’re not sure, buy just one spring and see if that is enough to give you the holdup you need.  I just installed a Race Tech Gold Valve kit, and the instructions told me to go back to stock fork springs, which surprised me, but I haven’t gotten a chance to try them yet.  

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alycium102 wrote:
Yeah the fork felt good to me anyway. I left the fork springs stick and had my guy play around with internals and got it to...

Yeah the fork felt good to me anyway. I left the fork springs stick and had my guy play around with internals and got it to me is really swell like. That stock shock spring wanted to boot me over the bars a lot. We went out on hi speed quite a ways on the stock one and it was better but not quite where I wanted or needed. 

Duke28 wrote:

The stock shock kicks like hell. I’ve gone for a ride more than once. 

alycium102 wrote:
Glad I’m not the only one with this experience and I’m 170 pounds. We tried about 2 turns out in hi speed before we just went...

Glad I’m not the only one with this experience and I’m 170 pounds. We tried about 2 turns out in hi speed before we just went to a softer shock. Now it’s amazing. 

This has me interested, I’m close in weight/age/class as well. I’m 40, intermediate and about 162 without gear. I got a ‘24 late fall and won’t ride it till spring so I have no basis for how the suspension actually feels. What rear spring rate did you end up with that was the ticket, and based on your experience, at my weight I should probably do the same? And to clarify, front springs seemed good for this weight?  

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Duke28 wrote:

The stock shock kicks like hell. I’ve gone for a ride more than once. 

alycium102 wrote:
Glad I’m not the only one with this experience and I’m 170 pounds. We tried about 2 turns out in hi speed before we just went...

Glad I’m not the only one with this experience and I’m 170 pounds. We tried about 2 turns out in hi speed before we just went to a softer shock. Now it’s amazing. 

JB500 wrote:
This has me interested, I’m close in weight/age/class as well. I’m 40, intermediate and about 162 without gear. I got a ‘24 late fall and won’t...

This has me interested, I’m close in weight/age/class as well. I’m 40, intermediate and about 162 without gear. I got a ‘24 late fall and won’t ride it till spring so I have no basis for how the suspension actually feels. What rear spring rate did you end up with that was the ticket, and based on your experience, at my weight I should probably do the same? And to clarify, front springs seemed good for this weight?  

The stock shock felt great at first for indoor riding at cedar lake arena but once i went outdoors in the bumps and such is where i really noticed how bad it wanted to kick. Plus like we said before you wont be able to get your static/race sag numbers where you want them. Honestly idk if i would follow the race tech spring rate thing, unless they updated it. When i checked in spring it was telling me i should go almost 2 spring rates down which no way jose haha. But yeah we only went down one spring rate on the shock and it feels amazing and im 170-175. We tried going down a spring rate in the forks and it was way too soft so we put the stock fork springs back in. So good. Youll love it once you get it all worked in. 

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alycium102 wrote:
Glad I’m not the only one with this experience and I’m 170 pounds. We tried about 2 turns out in hi speed before we just went...

Glad I’m not the only one with this experience and I’m 170 pounds. We tried about 2 turns out in hi speed before we just went to a softer shock. Now it’s amazing. 

JB500 wrote:
This has me interested, I’m close in weight/age/class as well. I’m 40, intermediate and about 162 without gear. I got a ‘24 late fall and won’t...

This has me interested, I’m close in weight/age/class as well. I’m 40, intermediate and about 162 without gear. I got a ‘24 late fall and won’t ride it till spring so I have no basis for how the suspension actually feels. What rear spring rate did you end up with that was the ticket, and based on your experience, at my weight I should probably do the same? And to clarify, front springs seemed good for this weight?  

alycium102 wrote:
The stock shock felt great at first for indoor riding at cedar lake arena but once i went outdoors in the bumps and such is where...

The stock shock felt great at first for indoor riding at cedar lake arena but once i went outdoors in the bumps and such is where i really noticed how bad it wanted to kick. Plus like we said before you wont be able to get your static/race sag numbers where you want them. Honestly idk if i would follow the race tech spring rate thing, unless they updated it. When i checked in spring it was telling me i should go almost 2 spring rates down which no way jose haha. But yeah we only went down one spring rate on the shock and it feels amazing and im 170-175. We tried going down a spring rate in the forks and it was way too soft so we put the stock fork springs back in. So good. Youll love it once you get it all worked in. 

Thank you for the info, really appreciate that. I’ll start with one rate softer on the rear. 

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The rear spring is pretty light.  I’m a lot bigger than you, but I had to go to a 6.0 at 215lbs.  That stock spring might...

The rear spring is pretty light.  I’m a lot bigger than you, but I had to go to a 6.0 at 215lbs.  That stock spring might be just about right.  Hitting the sag/static sag numbers are all that matters.

The forks are on the soft side valving-wise, so you’re probably the guy the suspension was spec’d for.  Wish I was.  It would save me alotta money!

JazzyJJ wrote:

We're similar in weight, what did you go to up front?

I went from the stock 5.0Nm to the optional stiffer OEM 5.2Nms.  With stock valving, this worked for me, but I’m 6’3”.  If you’re not sure...

I went from the stock 5.0Nm to the optional stiffer OEM 5.2Nms.  With stock valving, this worked for me, but I’m 6’3”.  If you’re not sure, buy just one spring and see if that is enough to give you the holdup you need.  I just installed a Race Tech Gold Valve kit, and the instructions told me to go back to stock fork springs, which surprised me, but I haven’t gotten a chance to try them yet.  

Thanks for this. That's interesting that they said to go back to stock springs. Maybe I just go the gold valves as it's slightly more money but if I can use the stock springs it'll be the largest upgrade for my buck.

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Anyone know if the 22 forks will work on 24/25?  Asking cause if I go that route I my put my 22 coated/racetech valved forks on it!

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DB505 wrote:
Anyone know if the 22 forks will work on 24/25?  Asking cause if I go that route I my put my 22 coated/racetech valved forks on...

Anyone know if the 22 forks will work on 24/25?  Asking cause if I go that route I my put my 22 coated/racetech valved forks on it!

Yeah the 19-23 forks will work on the new bike. Not the shock though. 

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DB505 wrote:
Anyone know if the 22 forks will work on 24/25?  Asking cause if I go that route I my put my 22 coated/racetech valved forks on...

Anyone know if the 22 forks will work on 24/25?  Asking cause if I go that route I my put my 22 coated/racetech valved forks on it!

I'm running 21 forks on my 24. The older forks have the better coating on the lower legs and some of the internals are better. The 24 forks uses a plastic spring cup and the older model is aluminum, the free piston is different, and the compression post/sub valve. Here is a good video showing the differences. 

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DB505 wrote:
Anyone know if the 22 forks will work on 24/25?  Asking cause if I go that route I my put my 22 coated/racetech valved forks on...

Anyone know if the 22 forks will work on 24/25?  Asking cause if I go that route I my put my 22 coated/racetech valved forks on it!

Trailturd wrote:
I'm running 21 forks on my 24. The older forks have the better coating on the lower legs and some of the internals are better. The...

I'm running 21 forks on my 24. The older forks have the better coating on the lower legs and some of the internals are better. The 24 forks uses a plastic spring cup and the older model is aluminum, the free piston is different, and the compression post/sub valve. Here is a good video showing the differences. 

Cool thanks

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alycium102 wrote:
Glad I’m not the only one with this experience and I’m 170 pounds. We tried about 2 turns out in hi speed before we just went...

Glad I’m not the only one with this experience and I’m 170 pounds. We tried about 2 turns out in hi speed before we just went to a softer shock. Now it’s amazing. 

JB500 wrote:
This has me interested, I’m close in weight/age/class as well. I’m 40, intermediate and about 162 without gear. I got a ‘24 late fall and won’t...

This has me interested, I’m close in weight/age/class as well. I’m 40, intermediate and about 162 without gear. I got a ‘24 late fall and won’t ride it till spring so I have no basis for how the suspension actually feels. What rear spring rate did you end up with that was the ticket, and based on your experience, at my weight I should probably do the same? And to clarify, front springs seemed good for this weight?  

alycium102 wrote:
The stock shock felt great at first for indoor riding at cedar lake arena but once i went outdoors in the bumps and such is where...

The stock shock felt great at first for indoor riding at cedar lake arena but once i went outdoors in the bumps and such is where i really noticed how bad it wanted to kick. Plus like we said before you wont be able to get your static/race sag numbers where you want them. Honestly idk if i would follow the race tech spring rate thing, unless they updated it. When i checked in spring it was telling me i should go almost 2 spring rates down which no way jose haha. But yeah we only went down one spring rate on the shock and it feels amazing and im 170-175. We tried going down a spring rate in the forks and it was way too soft so we put the stock fork springs back in. So good. Youll love it once you get it all worked in. 

Curious how it’s gonna feel, I called factory connection this morning and they said it should be good to go without changing springs. I pick it up tomorrow so I’ll see if I can get the sag right 

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