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Is it really too much to walk?
So rumors of Tomac coming here are true? Not sure why they’d build a sx track as he won’t need one after this season…
I’m guessing he will be doing wsx for a few more years, not totally sure though.
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Acp is only a hour from my place so that would be a cool thing to watch.
As I'm currently sitting at motoland, can confirm it's a zoo with ACP being closed. Definitely hope they can get the insurance squared away. Being down to one track in AZ will be terrible.
Do you guys go there quite often? I have a new cam id really like to get some footage on. I know no one out here who motos and just found out about ACP from their last big event.
I try to hit motoland atleast a few times a month. Haven't been to ACP in awhile but will start going there again if they open back up.
This is why the Ama is joke. How hard would it be for them to be self insured if they required tracks to be ama affiliated. Im sure the insurance rates tracks pay arent cheap. Why not put that into a fund with the ama. Yes its going to trickle down to the customer but at least they will have a place to ride.
That’s what I’ve done with my track as well. Not worth it dealing with the legal system
I ran organized practices and over 400 racing events as a promoter.
I ran both ama and non-sanctioned events.
AMA offered pretty good insurance for their events.
Advantages were that it was much easier to apply for coverage. no track drawings or pictures of the track were required.
It has been a while but as I recall they also did not require payment to clear beforehand for coverage.
They were also the first provider to come up with graduated rates based on actual number of entries, which was a pretty big deal for promoters that did not have the rider base that some areas have.
Yet all I see here is everybody piling on or posting unrealistic expectations concerning the ama.
Are they perfect?
No. they absolutely screwed up the 4 stroke transition, and it shows in their hesitation to allow electric bikes now as they fear making the same mistakes.
If anybody is serious about fixing this issue, do like Freshtopend suggested. Get involved.
and our sport better be prepared to adjust, whether it is paying so more expensive coverage can be purchased, parking pit vehicles, or accommodating split practices.
The thing with AMA insurance is it requires all riders to have AMA membership. Some riders (especially practice only riders) don't want to pay for it.
The AMA could offer some kind of "membership for the day", that's how it works here with FFM, you can take up your full year licence (including insurance coverage, medical and so on) or you could take a licence just for the day if you don't need it more than a couple of times a year, and you'll be covered for these days.
If that is actually going to be the solution, tough shit. We all complain about little fees here and there, but if it means having more places to ride then it's worth it. I'd rather have an extra membership fee to pay once a year and have more viable tracks than neither at all.
A 1 year AMA membership is $49. $4.08 a month.
Join the AMA - American Motorcyclist Association
I think the AMA has a single event membership option. The yearly is $49 and the single event is $20 I think. That would push a practice day to $45 at most tracks. It can be hard to get people to see the value in the $49 full year option. That assumes they have other options though. It sounds like the way insurance is going AMA might be the only option soon in some states.
Man that's... cheap!
Our annual "practice" licence (no competition) is over 200 €, annual competition licence is over 300 €, "1 day licence" is 80 €.
I guess it depends what you get with it, we get liability insurance and medical, including transport to hospital and such, tracks and organizers are covered as well. And FFM uses its money to buy and safeguard tracks, then lets local affiliated clubs run them.
It's a bit steep at the beginning of the year but here it works well to keep tracks open.
It’s crazy that people will spend $10k on new bikes and bitch about a $49 annual membership.
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And $40 to ride a prepped track.
Fair enough.
This makes me have a question though.... If the AMA is so awesome and easy to deal with, why don't some of these tracks get AMA insurance instead of just closing their doors?
I believe they only do event insurance for race weekends (so could have a one day practice on the weekend) but they don’t offer insurance for regular open rides
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