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Interesting they didn't ask me? guess I am not a congress official with any knowledge on this.
AMA Statement regarding Amateur Motocross Advancement
PICKERINGTON, Ohio -- AMA Sports announced today that new rules regarding rider
advancement to “A” class amateur motocross competition will not be implemented in 2008. The
decision follows a collaborative review process between promoters, congress delegates, OEM
representatives and AMA Staff,
2007 marked the first year of implementation for the AMA’s National Advancement System in
amateur motocross. The goal of the system is to provide a consistent source or enforcement
regarding rider eligibility at the “C” class level, and then progress riders through the “B” and “A” class
rankings.
“After our review, we felt that many riders were being pushed into our highest level of amateur
racing too quickly and that we’d be taking a step backwards after the recent progress we have made
in creating a better system,” stated the AMA’s Director of Motocross and Supercross Ryan Holliday.
In recent years the AMA has undertaken measures to create a more fluid transition through the
amateur ranks and into professional racing. One of these measures was to create a clear path of
progression from the minibike level to the Schoolboy class, eventually transitioning riders to the
appropriate skill level.
“This system was developed by the motocross committee of the AMA Congress and was first
utilized at the District level before being applied nationwide in 2007,” said Holliday. “The recent
changes in the AMA’s class structure had an unforeseen negative impact on young riders being
advanced into the ‘A’ class, namely the increase in age limits for the youth divisions, but the exclusion
of ‘A’ level riders in these classes.”
A contributing factor was the late release of rider advancement notification. In accordance with
the AMA rulebook, advancements were to take effect on December 31, 2007. With the qualifying
rounds of the AMA’s Amateur National Motocross Championship already underway, as well as many
other local racing series, the implementation of the “A” class rule was not in the best interest of AMA
members.
“The AMA feels the National Advancement System is a very promising program and we will
make the necessary changes through our rules-making body in the AMA Congress later this year to
create a fair and simplified ladder of progression regarding rider advancement to the ‘A’ class,” said
Holliday. “Rider advancement from the ‘C’ class to ‘B’ class will be implemented as planned in 2008.”
AMA Statement regarding Amateur Motocross Advancement
PICKERINGTON, Ohio -- AMA Sports announced today that new rules regarding rider
advancement to “A” class amateur motocross competition will not be implemented in 2008. The
decision follows a collaborative review process between promoters, congress delegates, OEM
representatives and AMA Staff,
2007 marked the first year of implementation for the AMA’s National Advancement System in
amateur motocross. The goal of the system is to provide a consistent source or enforcement
regarding rider eligibility at the “C” class level, and then progress riders through the “B” and “A” class
rankings.
“After our review, we felt that many riders were being pushed into our highest level of amateur
racing too quickly and that we’d be taking a step backwards after the recent progress we have made
in creating a better system,” stated the AMA’s Director of Motocross and Supercross Ryan Holliday.
In recent years the AMA has undertaken measures to create a more fluid transition through the
amateur ranks and into professional racing. One of these measures was to create a clear path of
progression from the minibike level to the Schoolboy class, eventually transitioning riders to the
appropriate skill level.
“This system was developed by the motocross committee of the AMA Congress and was first
utilized at the District level before being applied nationwide in 2007,” said Holliday. “The recent
changes in the AMA’s class structure had an unforeseen negative impact on young riders being
advanced into the ‘A’ class, namely the increase in age limits for the youth divisions, but the exclusion
of ‘A’ level riders in these classes.”
A contributing factor was the late release of rider advancement notification. In accordance with
the AMA rulebook, advancements were to take effect on December 31, 2007. With the qualifying
rounds of the AMA’s Amateur National Motocross Championship already underway, as well as many
other local racing series, the implementation of the “A” class rule was not in the best interest of AMA
members.
“The AMA feels the National Advancement System is a very promising program and we will
make the necessary changes through our rules-making body in the AMA Congress later this year to
create a fair and simplified ladder of progression regarding rider advancement to the ‘A’ class,” said
Holliday. “Rider advancement from the ‘C’ class to ‘B’ class will be implemented as planned in 2008.”
Still think the C to B is basically the same scenario, but yet with no OEM support (Xtreme Team Green, etc..) it's a moot point.
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So... you are going to enforce the rules for C to B.... and not B to A? What kind of message does that send to the AMA membership? We are keeping the fastest B guys in the B class and throwing in some newbie B's to contend with riders/racers that SHOULD BE IN THE A CLASS???
RETARDED!
I'm still waiting to hear when/how they are going to implement the C to B advancement. As I've stated my local guy raced C at Whitney qualifier and has not been told ANYTHING about being moved up, even though, he is on the national advancement list.
Also.. once informed by a friend about this list, he did add up his points and the AMA made a mistake and added in his December races when the cutoff is November.
There are some local districts that had already announced B to A advancements, but yet these individuals proceed to ride in the B class at other districts and already at a LL Area qualifier because they were not advanced in the national AMA system.
Can they be successfully protested?
I never thought I would see the day that this would happen. But it seems clear that the National Qualifying and national races are more "important" then us smucks out here doing this every year for a long time.
Advancement isn't easy, they will threaten you, they will try to bribe you, they will yell and scream and call you names. Been there done that for 17+ years, but you have to follow the dam rules. You have to take "special" consideration on a individual basis as per the rules. Once you do not follow or enforce the rules you make the whole process suspect.
this is a bad decision.
by the way i am on the executive committee who should have been involved with this, they never included me, or asked me. even NOT Following the rules, wasn't decided with the process in place to do that.
I am kinda thinking the same thing. I can't wait to run into Ryan Holliday, in person, at say, Minneapolis SX or the AX Final in Green Bay, this weekend. He would get my opinion and it sure doesn't match his!
Jimi J
other local racing series, the implementation of the “A” class rule was not in the best interest of AMA
members, [b:1ifppc5g]especially those with factory (OEM) support.[/b:1ifppc5g]
This would be a more correct way of stating it!
I still can't get this whole deal. What about fair and impartial competition? I'm sure the media will just blow over all this too.
MXKing reminds me you are on the AMA's "Amatuer Executive Congress Board"....hmmmm
Jimi j
PS- WARDY- you have a PM!
The AMA is saying they don't have to advance, but some of the local districts are saying they have to.
There are some people writing into the local districts about it and they are saying 'take it up with the AMA'.
Who overrides who? The districts or the AMA?
The AMA has made this confusing as hell.
The prediction is MXSports will eventually take over AMA Amateur Competition activities. They are tweaking the system, in advance. (you heard it here, first)
Jimi J
by the way i am on the executive committee who should have been involved with this, they never included me, or asked me. even NOT Following the rules, wasn't decided with the process in place to do that.[/quote:3c9ddnn2]
they want you to quit so they can get a yes man.
Pit Row
Although MX Sports is a part in it. The so called Amateur Nationals is the reason. Not solely MX Sports.
The cheaters that always have bothered me are the people who line up 10 feet from the starting gate to get a rolling start advantage on everyone else. Now they claim it's not cheating, but we all no MX is a standing start sport and we are all interested in fairness first, right?
You said it best when you wrote, "Simply put, how can " group" of people who we have no clue "who" they are just say "that or those rules" won't apply." Why don't we see if we can stop this starting line cheating and maybe we can build from that.
What do you think?
Posted by Patti (Parent60) on 3/6/2008, 6:49 pm, in reply to "Re: patti please respond"
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I don't know how to respond to any advancement issues. At this point, I have left the advancements up the way that they were and until I hear from the AMA, we should probably stick to them. If a rider has asked me to go back a class, they have been referred to the AMA, which is what is supposed to be done from now on. If the AMA has reviewed a riders history and decides that they can stay back a class, then they will have to have a letter from the AMA. I have not heard any official news that ALL B to A advancements don't count, I think it's just that the AMA could not do them and there won't be a "national list" of B to A advancements. I would hope that a district's advancements would still be valid (unless the AMA has approved them to go back). Sorry I can't be of more help right now, call the AMA for more info.
Patti
The cheaters that always have bothered me are the people who line up 10 feet from the starting gate to get a rolling start advantage on everyone else. Now they claim it's not cheating, but we all no MX is a standing start sport and we are all interested in fairness first, right?
You said it best when you wrote, "Simply put, how can " group" of people who we have no clue "who" they are just say "that or those rules" won't apply." Why don't we see if we can stop this starting line cheating and maybe we can build from that.
What do you think?[/quote:hknqz3gs]
Carefull, that one will hit Wardy personally.
I think it is not related to this thread at all. Take the correct step and protest if it bothers you.
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