2024 Kawasaki KX450 and KX450X

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11/23/2024 4:29pm
NicNak wrote:
Yes I do. Chad claims 8.5 more hp with an exhaust, vortex, air box! My vortex is phenomenal. I ran map 1 for a while, ran map...

Yes I do. Chad claims 8.5 more hp with an exhaust, vortex, air box! 

My vortex is phenomenal. I ran map 1 for a while, ran map 3 for a while but map 4 is moneyyyy. I’ve been on map 4 for several months & never switch off map 4 now. 
 

Bike rips & I get awesome starts 🤙

Sweet.   Ordering now !!!!

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NicNak
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11/23/2024 5:10pm
NicNak wrote:
Yes I do. Chad claims 8.5 more hp with an exhaust, vortex, air box! My vortex is phenomenal. I ran map 1 for a while, ran map...

Yes I do. Chad claims 8.5 more hp with an exhaust, vortex, air box! 

My vortex is phenomenal. I ran map 1 for a while, ran map 3 for a while but map 4 is moneyyyy. I’ve been on map 4 for several months & never switch off map 4 now. 
 

Bike rips & I get awesome starts 🤙

49weasel wrote:

Sweet.   Ordering now !!!!

Won’t regret it 🤙

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11/26/2024 1:29pm
NicNak wrote:
Yes I do. Chad claims 8.5 more hp with an exhaust, vortex, air box! My vortex is phenomenal. I ran map 1 for a while, ran map...

Yes I do. Chad claims 8.5 more hp with an exhaust, vortex, air box! 

My vortex is phenomenal. I ran map 1 for a while, ran map 3 for a while but map 4 is moneyyyy. I’ve been on map 4 for several months & never switch off map 4 now. 
 

Bike rips & I get awesome starts 🤙

I am curious as to what his maps are? What are the differences between the maps you were using previously and what made you switch? A picture of the map sheet would be appreciated if possible.

11/26/2024 1:35pm

Has anyone tried having their stock ignition remapped by Tokyo mods?

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11/26/2024 4:56pm Edited Date/Time 11/26/2024 4:59pm
A_Wise1 wrote:
I am curious as to what his maps are? What are the differences between the maps you were using previously and what made you switch? A...

I am curious as to what his maps are? What are the differences between the maps you were using previously and what made you switch? A picture of the map sheet would be appreciated if possible.

As for the differences, not sure as Chad doesn’t share the exact maps. The stock ecu when you make changes is minimally different. So I figured I’d give it a shot to see if it was a drastic improvement. If it wasn’t I figured I could sell the vortex. 
 

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11/26/2024 5:47pm Edited Date/Time 11/26/2024 5:48pm

Had an engine mount bolt come out. It’s the one that actually goes into the motor. I can’t find 24 torq numbers but I’m guessing 30ish ft lbs should be fine as is what my 2019 required. I checked everything when I bought the bike in may but just a reminder for everyone to check occasionally. 

Today I went ahead and checked every bolt on the bike. I checked torq for all bolts that the book shows a number and tightness for others and everything else is/was fine. 

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11/28/2024 8:29am

Just picked up some ride engineering split clamps for 30% off. Pretty good deal. Hopefully there is a noticeable benefit. 

Fcp mounts and race cups only have a measly 10% discount. Sad.

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Thinking about getting another 24 and sitting on it.  
I got my first one for  $8300 otd when the first rebate came out.  
Is $6500’ish otd realistic ?

12/7/2024 8:49pm
49weasel wrote:
Thinking about getting another 24 and sitting on it.  I got my first one for  $8300 otd when the first rebate came out.  Is $6500’ish otd...

Thinking about getting another 24 and sitting on it.  
I got my first one for  $8300 otd when the first rebate came out.  
Is $6500’ish otd realistic ?

If you don't pay sales tax or any fee's you might get close. Under 7k otd is a good deal.

12/7/2024 9:03pm
49weasel wrote:
Thinking about getting another 24 and sitting on it.  I got my first one for  $8300 otd when the first rebate came out.  Is $6500’ish otd...

Thinking about getting another 24 and sitting on it.  
I got my first one for  $8300 otd when the first rebate came out.  
Is $6500’ish otd realistic ?

No chance. 

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12/8/2024 6:18am
49weasel wrote:
Thinking about getting another 24 and sitting on it.  I got my first one for  $8300 otd when the first rebate came out.  Is $6500’ish otd...

Thinking about getting another 24 and sitting on it.  
I got my first one for  $8300 otd when the first rebate came out.  
Is $6500’ish otd realistic ?

No chance. 

I got mine got 7k otd 6/2024

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12/8/2024 7:24am
49weasel wrote:
Thinking about getting another 24 and sitting on it.  I got my first one for  $8300 otd when the first rebate came out.  Is $6500’ish otd...

Thinking about getting another 24 and sitting on it.  
I got my first one for  $8300 otd when the first rebate came out.  
Is $6500’ish otd realistic ?

No chance. 

Duke28 wrote:

I got mine got 7k otd 6/2024

Including tax?

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12/8/2024 7:33am Edited Date/Time 12/8/2024 7:34am

No chance. 

Duke28 wrote:

I got mine got 7k otd 6/2024

Including tax?

I did out of state. Listed for $6600 msrp

12/8/2024 8:17am
49weasel wrote:
Thinking about getting another 24 and sitting on it.  I got my first one for  $8300 otd when the first rebate came out.  Is $6500’ish otd...

Thinking about getting another 24 and sitting on it.  
I got my first one for  $8300 otd when the first rebate came out.  
Is $6500’ish otd realistic ?

No chance. 

I agree. I’ll take one at that price Lol

12/8/2024 12:19pm Edited Date/Time 12/8/2024 12:23pm
Duke28 wrote:

I got mine got 7k otd 6/2024

Including tax?

Duke28 wrote:

I did out of state. Listed for $6600 msrp

Okay, now that’s more like it. This is literally the only place where people don’t understand OTD price is the total price of purchase. Your purchase is not fully legal until you pay the taxes. If you don’t want to that’s fine but the dealer is giving you the bike with the expectation you pay taxes as legally required. 

Maybe we should change OTD price to total price. Not directed to you but it’s crazy how people don’t realize. 

Also, that’s not what msrp means. Manufacturer sets MSRP as the name would suggest. A dealer can’t make up their own msrp. Not trying to word smith but this stuff matters when people are talking cost. 

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12/8/2024 12:49pm

Including tax?

Duke28 wrote:

I did out of state. Listed for $6600 msrp

Okay, now that’s more like it. This is literally the only place where people don’t understand OTD price is the total price of purchase. Your purchase...

Okay, now that’s more like it. This is literally the only place where people don’t understand OTD price is the total price of purchase. Your purchase is not fully legal until you pay the taxes. If you don’t want to that’s fine but the dealer is giving you the bike with the expectation you pay taxes as legally required. 

Maybe we should change OTD price to total price. Not directed to you but it’s crazy how people don’t realize. 

Also, that’s not what msrp means. Manufacturer sets MSRP as the name would suggest. A dealer can’t make up their own msrp. Not trying to word smith but this stuff matters when people are talking cost. 

It's much easier to compare pricing whiteout tax. You could have no state tax, a couple percent, or 10%. 

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12/8/2024 1:07pm

Including tax?

Duke28 wrote:

I did out of state. Listed for $6600 msrp

Okay, now that’s more like it. This is literally the only place where people don’t understand OTD price is the total price of purchase. Your purchase...

Okay, now that’s more like it. This is literally the only place where people don’t understand OTD price is the total price of purchase. Your purchase is not fully legal until you pay the taxes. If you don’t want to that’s fine but the dealer is giving you the bike with the expectation you pay taxes as legally required. 

Maybe we should change OTD price to total price. Not directed to you but it’s crazy how people don’t realize. 

Also, that’s not what msrp means. Manufacturer sets MSRP as the name would suggest. A dealer can’t make up their own msrp. Not trying to word smith but this stuff matters when people are talking cost. 

I don’t understand your point? They are going for cheap. Just be happy about it. I handed the man 7k. 

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NicNak
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12/8/2024 2:55pm
Okay, now that’s more like it. This is literally the only place where people don’t understand OTD price is the total price of purchase. Your purchase...

Okay, now that’s more like it. This is literally the only place where people don’t understand OTD price is the total price of purchase. Your purchase is not fully legal until you pay the taxes. If you don’t want to that’s fine but the dealer is giving you the bike with the expectation you pay taxes as legally required. 

Maybe we should change OTD price to total price. Not directed to you but it’s crazy how people don’t realize. 

Also, that’s not what msrp means. Manufacturer sets MSRP as the name would suggest. A dealer can’t make up their own msrp. Not trying to word smith but this stuff matters when people are talking cost. 

Why do I need to pay tax? I’ve purchased multiple bikes without paying tax, then eventually sold them onto someone else. Give them the cert of origin. If they want to register it I tell them they can go to the dmv & get it registered with cert of origin, aka MSO.  I don’t ride anywhere I need a sticker.

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12/8/2024 6:31pm
Duke28 wrote:

I did out of state. Listed for $6600 msrp

Okay, now that’s more like it. This is literally the only place where people don’t understand OTD price is the total price of purchase. Your purchase...

Okay, now that’s more like it. This is literally the only place where people don’t understand OTD price is the total price of purchase. Your purchase is not fully legal until you pay the taxes. If you don’t want to that’s fine but the dealer is giving you the bike with the expectation you pay taxes as legally required. 

Maybe we should change OTD price to total price. Not directed to you but it’s crazy how people don’t realize. 

Also, that’s not what msrp means. Manufacturer sets MSRP as the name would suggest. A dealer can’t make up their own msrp. Not trying to word smith but this stuff matters when people are talking cost. 

JazzyJJ wrote:

It's much easier to compare pricing whiteout tax. You could have no state tax, a couple percent, or 10%. 

That’s a really good point. 

12/8/2024 6:33pm
Okay, now that’s more like it. This is literally the only place where people don’t understand OTD price is the total price of purchase. Your purchase...

Okay, now that’s more like it. This is literally the only place where people don’t understand OTD price is the total price of purchase. Your purchase is not fully legal until you pay the taxes. If you don’t want to that’s fine but the dealer is giving you the bike with the expectation you pay taxes as legally required. 

Maybe we should change OTD price to total price. Not directed to you but it’s crazy how people don’t realize. 

Also, that’s not what msrp means. Manufacturer sets MSRP as the name would suggest. A dealer can’t make up their own msrp. Not trying to word smith but this stuff matters when people are talking cost. 

NicNak wrote:
Why do I need to pay tax? I’ve purchased multiple bikes without paying tax, then eventually sold them onto someone else. Give them the cert of...

Why do I need to pay tax? I’ve purchased multiple bikes without paying tax, then eventually sold them onto someone else. Give them the cert of origin. If they want to register it I tell them they can go to the dmv & get it registered with cert of origin, aka MSO.  I don’t ride anywhere I need a sticker.

In my state they can get you with some hefty penalties if you don’t pay taxes and they find out. They have a deal with most close states where they report sales to each other. I know many who have had no problems and other who get massive fines. I just pay the $900

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12/8/2024 7:54pm
In my state they can get you with some hefty penalties if you don’t pay taxes and they find out. They have a deal with most...

In my state they can get you with some hefty penalties if you don’t pay taxes and they find out. They have a deal with most close states where they report sales to each other. I know many who have had no problems and other who get massive fines. I just pay the $900

Yeah they cant do anything unless you ride it on land where it needs a sticker. Tracks & private land & you are good to go. 

12/9/2024 10:10am

Including tax?

Duke28 wrote:

I did out of state. Listed for $6600 msrp

Okay, now that’s more like it. This is literally the only place where people don’t understand OTD price is the total price of purchase. Your purchase...

Okay, now that’s more like it. This is literally the only place where people don’t understand OTD price is the total price of purchase. Your purchase is not fully legal until you pay the taxes. If you don’t want to that’s fine but the dealer is giving you the bike with the expectation you pay taxes as legally required. 

Maybe we should change OTD price to total price. Not directed to you but it’s crazy how people don’t realize. 

Also, that’s not what msrp means. Manufacturer sets MSRP as the name would suggest. A dealer can’t make up their own msrp. Not trying to word smith but this stuff matters when people are talking cost. 

Well said.  I sold motorcycles for many years. I heard a lot of bull shit from both dealers and customers. It got real old,real fast. I offered my discount up front and that was the firm selling price, take or leave it. kinda like Munn with KTM.   I lost a few deals, but most of my customers liked the straight up way of making a deal.  I have to say, I don't miss it one bit.

49weasel
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12/12/2024 1:24pm Edited Date/Time 12/12/2024 1:27pm

Anyone had issue with the PC Full TI  exhaust rattling between the header and muffler ?

Anyone home remedies ?

PC said it was somewhat common on the Ti exhausts and they do full exhaust service which includes fixing that but it’s a 4-6 week turnaround.  
 **** I bought an exhaust expander but kinda nervous to try it on titanium.  

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12/12/2024 2:27pm
49weasel wrote:
Anyone had issue with the PC Full TI  exhaust rattling between the header and muffler ?Anyone home remedies ?PC said it was somewhat common on the...

Anyone had issue with the PC Full TI  exhaust rattling between the header and muffler ?

Anyone home remedies ?

PC said it was somewhat common on the Ti exhausts and they do full exhaust service which includes fixing that but it’s a 4-6 week turnaround.  
 **** I bought an exhaust expander but kinda nervous to try it on titanium.  

That's common with both sides being ti. You can combat this a bit using a stainless header 

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12/12/2024 3:11pm

Hi temp silicone sealer?? 

12/12/2024 3:45pm

dealer cost on a 24 kx450 is about 9600.  so with a 3000 rebate, he dealers' cost is $6600.  then they have to pay freight to get it and mechanic to service it up.figure $200 for that.  but a dealer can easily advertise this bike for 66-6800, and then add 1500 in freight/setup fees also called "destination fee".  look at kawis website. they have a recommended amount for destination charge, but they also have a tiny asterisk or cross with a footnote saying "dealer sets final price on destination fee"  and the bigger the dealership, the bigger that fee is. you can get charged up to 1500 for that.

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12/12/2024 6:08pm
49weasel wrote:
Anyone had issue with the PC Full TI  exhaust rattling between the header and muffler ?Anyone home remedies ?PC said it was somewhat common on the...

Anyone had issue with the PC Full TI  exhaust rattling between the header and muffler ?

Anyone home remedies ?

PC said it was somewhat common on the Ti exhausts and they do full exhaust service which includes fixing that but it’s a 4-6 week turnaround.  
 **** I bought an exhaust expander but kinda nervous to try it on titanium.  

My Yosh did that on my 22, it was SS. I used the exhaust expander and tuned it up every once in a while.

12/13/2024 6:31am
dealer cost on a 24 kx450 is about 9600.  so with a 3000 rebate, he dealers' cost is $6600.  then they have to pay freight to...

dealer cost on a 24 kx450 is about 9600.  so with a 3000 rebate, he dealers' cost is $6600.  then they have to pay freight to get it and mechanic to service it up.figure $200 for that.  but a dealer can easily advertise this bike for 66-6800, and then add 1500 in freight/setup fees also called "destination fee".  look at kawis website. they have a recommended amount for destination charge, but they also have a tiny asterisk or cross with a footnote saying "dealer sets final price on destination fee"  and the bigger the dealership, the bigger that fee is. you can get charged up to 1500 for that.

I just want to clarify a couple of things.

Kawasaki's destination fee is the actual fee charged to the dealer for the unit. No smoke and mirrors, that is the price. That is cost forwarded to the customer. Some shops mark that up, hence "dealer sets final price on destination fee".

In regards to the rebate, this does not automatically change the dealer's price of the unit. If that unit is on a floor plan and sold they still have to pay full dealer cost. The rebate will eventually show up on the dealers account as a parts credit only. This technically puts dealers out of pocket the rebate amount that they will eventually recoup through the parts credit. That's how Kawasaki does it anyway.

It's tough trying to pay the bills selling dirt bikes.

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