I've delt with United health care

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12/10/2024 1:46pm
ML512 wrote:

Holy shit…suspended.

Magoofan wrote:
Thank you Michael.Zero tolerance for that kind of shit.  Again, not defending the CEO....don't know if he was a good guy or a bad guy, but killing...

Thank you Michael.

Zero tolerance for that kind of shit. 

 

Again, not defending the CEO....don't know if he was a good guy or a bad guy, but killing him or others isn't going to fix the problem. 

SoCalMX70 wrote:
History says otherwise. Also, see 2A.Edit: Felt I should provide a bit more. I don't condone anything about this... But people are pissed about certain things...

History says otherwise. Also, see 2A.

Edit: Felt I should provide a bit more. I don't condone anything about this... But people are pissed about certain things going on in this country, health care (and insurance) being one. It's not often you see no political slant in the reactions to big news (although a lot of media talking heads are trying their hardest to push some of that division again). Anyway, will this snowball into some sort of revolution? Very likely not, but if any change is ever to come, it's not going to be pretty.

I'm just observing.

I absolutely agree that people are pissed and rightly so....we are being fleeced and peoples lives are being ruined.     However, It's not just the CEOs...it's the whole system.     Randomly killing someone in that system isn't gonna do anything.             

What is the answer....  good question. 

 

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12/10/2024 1:52pm
Magoofan wrote:
Thank you Michael.Zero tolerance for that kind of shit.  Again, not defending the CEO....don't know if he was a good guy or a bad guy, but killing...

Thank you Michael.

Zero tolerance for that kind of shit. 

 

Again, not defending the CEO....don't know if he was a good guy or a bad guy, but killing him or others isn't going to fix the problem. 

SoCalMX70 wrote:
History says otherwise. Also, see 2A.Edit: Felt I should provide a bit more. I don't condone anything about this... But people are pissed about certain things...

History says otherwise. Also, see 2A.

Edit: Felt I should provide a bit more. I don't condone anything about this... But people are pissed about certain things going on in this country, health care (and insurance) being one. It's not often you see no political slant in the reactions to big news (although a lot of media talking heads are trying their hardest to push some of that division again). Anyway, will this snowball into some sort of revolution? Very likely not, but if any change is ever to come, it's not going to be pretty.

I'm just observing.

Magoofan wrote:
I absolutely agree that people are pissed and rightly so....we are being fleeced and peoples lives are being ruined.     However, It's not just the...

I absolutely agree that people are pissed and rightly so....we are being fleeced and peoples lives are being ruined.     However, It's not just the CEOs...it's the whole system.     Randomly killing someone in that system isn't gonna do anything.             

What is the answer....  good question. 

 

Next time you renew your policy just know part of the cost increase is for the executive protection details they're all hiring right now. 

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12/10/2024 3:34pm

I stand corrected Lung

Only a handful of States suppressors are illegal  the rest need a Permit.

I live in Illinois I'm one of them

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12/10/2024 3:53pm
Oldschool wrote:

I stand corrected Lung

Only a handful of States suppressors are illegal  the rest need a Permit.

I live in Illinois I'm one of them

All good brother, just didn't want someone to think anyone with a suppressor is a criminal 😉

 

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12/10/2024 4:04pm

New process at work since this CEO event...as of today we no longer page a customers name over the P.A. system

" John Doe from Northrup " is here for EMV testing etc.

We now call out the project engineers name and that there client is here.

12/10/2024 6:09pm
Oldschool wrote:

I stand corrected Lung

Only a handful of States suppressors are illegal  the rest need a Permit.

I live in Illinois I'm one of them

Any suppressor bought legally in the United States requires a Federal NFA stamp. To get one, you need to send your fingerprints, a passport style photo, and a 13 page background check form to the ATF. Then, whenever they get around to it (I heard as long as 9 months a couple years back. Maybe faster now), they’ll send you a stamp that you can use to buy the suppressor.

Illegal suppressors can be made with pretty basic machining tools. 

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Oldschool wrote:

I stand corrected Lung

Only a handful of States suppressors are illegal  the rest need a Permit.

I live in Illinois I'm one of them

Any suppressor bought legally in the United States requires a Federal NFA stamp. To get one, you need to send your fingerprints, a passport style photo...

Any suppressor bought legally in the United States requires a Federal NFA stamp. To get one, you need to send your fingerprints, a passport style photo, and a 13 page background check form to the ATF. Then, whenever they get around to it (I heard as long as 9 months a couple years back. Maybe faster now), they’ll send you a stamp that you can use to buy the suppressor.

Illegal suppressors can be made with pretty basic machining tools. 

Last one I bought was about a year ago, around 4 months start to finish. Several websites or bigger gun stores have the process streamlined as much as you can but it's still annoying as hell. 

This is one of the two things I always bring up when some lib wants to compromise on common sense gun control. I might be willing to listen to some of what you have to say if you'll agree to deregulation of suppressors and national concealed carry reciprocity just like a drivers license, but no gun grabber will begin to consider either thing so fuck 'em and the answer to anything gun control related that you propose is a hard no. 

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12/11/2024 9:29am

Wow…the excuses…the justification…hell…The Support!

For this fucking assassin is mind blowing.

No worries. They’re all just showing us “who they are”.

This is interesting and informative…and…sad. Like their new hero, many of these people are psychotic. 

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12/11/2024 10:29am Edited Date/Time 12/11/2024 11:43am

No way these are all the same person

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12/11/2024 10:45am

A lot of the story just doesn't seem to add up.

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12/11/2024 10:54am Edited Date/Time 12/11/2024 10:55am

A lot of the story just doesn't seem to add up.

Very hard to argue that point.

Interesting how the flip side of this story, his (the victim) shady trading practices, the rumored ties to the infamous inside trader, pelosi.

(Who now we're hearing has a history of business with the perps, very well to do, family)

 

You'd better believe there's deep shit concerning this that will never be public knowledge. 

 

Especially now that they have a very shiny object, luigi, for us to be fascinated with. 

 

Hindsight has shown that, today's crackpot conspiracy theories, are tomorrow's reality. 

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12/11/2024 1:11pm
TAUTOG wrote:
No way these are all the same person 

No way these are all the same person

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"if the nasal strip doesn't fit, you must aquit"

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12/11/2024 1:17pm
TAUTOG wrote:
No way these are all the same person 

No way these are all the same person

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peelout wrote:

"if the nasal strip doesn't fit, you must aquit"

"if the eyebrows don't split, your all full of shit"

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12/11/2024 1:32pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Wow…the excuses…the justification…hell…The Support!For this fucking assassin is mind blowing.No worries. They’re all just showing us “who they are”.This is interesting and informative…and…sad. Like their new...

Wow…the excuses…the justification…hell…The Support!

For this fucking assassin is mind blowing.

No worries. They’re all just showing us “who they are”.

This is interesting and informative…and…sad. Like their new hero, many of these people are psychotic. 

Like I said twice already.......this thread is disturbing.

It is perplexing that the Vitards have such a cavalier outlook on the cold-blooded murder of a human being who had a wife and kids.

Danm.

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12/11/2024 3:24pm

Kimmel staying classy and joking about his staff finding the shooter hot and attractive. He’s such a douchebag. Worst host ever.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/jimmy-kimmel-outs-staff-being-155201892.html

Night shows dropped off a cliff after Letterman. Although I am partial to Craig Ferguson

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12/11/2024 3:37pm
Zycki11 wrote:

Night shows dropped off a cliff after Letterman. Although I am partial to Craig Ferguson

Dude, I couldn’t agree more! Ferguson is/was amazing. Still like watching old clips of his show.

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12/11/2024 3:43pm
Zycki11 wrote:

Night shows dropped off a cliff after Letterman. Although I am partial to Craig Ferguson

Dude, I couldn’t agree more! Ferguson is/was amazing. Still like watching old clips of his show.

I still miss Carson. 

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12/11/2024 5:19pm
Zycki11 wrote:

Night shows dropped off a cliff after Letterman. Although I am partial to Craig Ferguson

Dude, I couldn’t agree more! Ferguson is/was amazing. Still like watching old clips of his show.

Gworm wrote:

I still miss Carson. 

Agreed. That was real comedy. 

Was just watching some clips of Art Fern and the Amazing Karnac awhile ago…

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12/11/2024 5:23pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Wow…the excuses…the justification…hell…The Support!For this fucking assassin is mind blowing.No worries. They’re all just showing us “who they are”.This is interesting and informative…and…sad. Like their new...

Wow…the excuses…the justification…hell…The Support!

For this fucking assassin is mind blowing.

No worries. They’re all just showing us “who they are”.

This is interesting and informative…and…sad. Like their new hero, many of these people are psychotic. 

Like I said twice already.......this thread is disturbing.It is perplexing that the Vitards have such a cavalier outlook on the cold-blooded murder of a human being...

Like I said twice already.......this thread is disturbing.

It is perplexing that the Vitards have such a cavalier outlook on the cold-blooded murder of a human being who had a wife and kids.

Danm.

An armed society is a polite society. What is the motivation for politeness in that scenario? The knowledge that anyone you encounter has been afforded the ultimate means to defend themselves or extract retribution if you have wronged them.

In the last 20 years my state and many others have gone from laws banning concealed carry, to permitted carry to permitless carry. It's right to assume everyone has a gun on them, don't give them a reason to ignore any repercussions they might get for shooting you dead, it's better to be breathing and wrong than dead and right. 

Fuck around and find out has been written into the law of the land, American society has been engineered for a return to the wild West, that means more than wearing funny hats and pointy boots. Keep you eyes open, and don't give anyone a reason to want you dead, people throw their life away for way dumber reasons than vengeance.

What happened to Brian Thompson is a tragedy. It's no bigger tragedy than what happened in Uvalde, Sandy Hook, Aurora, El Paso, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, etc. it will be interesting to see how well the second amendment holds up with the ruling class feeling threatened given events of the past few months.

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12/11/2024 5:27pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Wow…the excuses…the justification…hell…The Support!For this fucking assassin is mind blowing.No worries. They’re all just showing us “who they are”.This is interesting and informative…and…sad. Like their new...

Wow…the excuses…the justification…hell…The Support!

For this fucking assassin is mind blowing.

No worries. They’re all just showing us “who they are”.

This is interesting and informative…and…sad. Like their new hero, many of these people are psychotic. 

Like I said twice already.......this thread is disturbing.It is perplexing that the Vitards have such a cavalier outlook on the cold-blooded murder of a human being...

Like I said twice already.......this thread is disturbing.

It is perplexing that the Vitards have such a cavalier outlook on the cold-blooded murder of a human being who had a wife and kids.

Danm.

early wrote:
An armed society is a polite society. What is the motivation for politeness in that scenario? The knowledge that anyone you encounter has been afforded the...

An armed society is a polite society. What is the motivation for politeness in that scenario? The knowledge that anyone you encounter has been afforded the ultimate means to defend themselves or extract retribution if you have wronged them.

In the last 20 years my state and many others have gone from laws banning concealed carry, to permitted carry to permitless carry. It's right to assume everyone has a gun on them, don't give them a reason to ignore any repercussions they might get for shooting you dead, it's better to be breathing and wrong than dead and right. 

Fuck around and find out has been written into the law of the land, American society has been engineered for a return to the wild West, that means more than wearing funny hats and pointy boots. Keep you eyes open, and don't give anyone a reason to want you dead, people throw their life away for way dumber reasons than vengeance.

What happened to Brian Thompson is a tragedy. It's no bigger tragedy than what happened in Uvalde, Sandy Hook, Aurora, El Paso, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, etc. it will be interesting to see how well the second amendment holds up with the ruling class feeling threatened given events of the past few months.

Arming everybody is not a good idea when some people are more readily triggered than others...

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/non-moto/pet-peeves

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12/11/2024 5:36pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Wow…the excuses…the justification…hell…The Support!For this fucking assassin is mind blowing.No worries. They’re all just showing us “who they are”.This is interesting and informative…and…sad. Like their new...

Wow…the excuses…the justification…hell…The Support!

For this fucking assassin is mind blowing.

No worries. They’re all just showing us “who they are”.

This is interesting and informative…and…sad. Like their new hero, many of these people are psychotic. 

Like I said twice already.......this thread is disturbing.It is perplexing that the Vitards have such a cavalier outlook on the cold-blooded murder of a human being...

Like I said twice already.......this thread is disturbing.

It is perplexing that the Vitards have such a cavalier outlook on the cold-blooded murder of a human being who had a wife and kids.

Danm.

early wrote:
An armed society is a polite society. What is the motivation for politeness in that scenario? The knowledge that anyone you encounter has been afforded the...

An armed society is a polite society. What is the motivation for politeness in that scenario? The knowledge that anyone you encounter has been afforded the ultimate means to defend themselves or extract retribution if you have wronged them.

In the last 20 years my state and many others have gone from laws banning concealed carry, to permitted carry to permitless carry. It's right to assume everyone has a gun on them, don't give them a reason to ignore any repercussions they might get for shooting you dead, it's better to be breathing and wrong than dead and right. 

Fuck around and find out has been written into the law of the land, American society has been engineered for a return to the wild West, that means more than wearing funny hats and pointy boots. Keep you eyes open, and don't give anyone a reason to want you dead, people throw their life away for way dumber reasons than vengeance.

What happened to Brian Thompson is a tragedy. It's no bigger tragedy than what happened in Uvalde, Sandy Hook, Aurora, El Paso, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, etc. it will be interesting to see how well the second amendment holds up with the ruling class feeling threatened given events of the past few months.

Wow…That’s a lot of words to explain the following…

In NYC, a non-gun city, a piece of shit coward walked up and shot a man…in the fucking back. Period.

Someone’s gonna open their mouth and say he wasn’t shot in the back…really? Go watch the video…the victim does turnaround and take shots to his front…AFTER the fucking coward walked up behind him and shot him…in the leg…from behind.

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12/11/2024 5:51pm
Like I said twice already.......this thread is disturbing.It is perplexing that the Vitards have such a cavalier outlook on the cold-blooded murder of a human being...

Like I said twice already.......this thread is disturbing.

It is perplexing that the Vitards have such a cavalier outlook on the cold-blooded murder of a human being who had a wife and kids.

Danm.

early wrote:
An armed society is a polite society. What is the motivation for politeness in that scenario? The knowledge that anyone you encounter has been afforded the...

An armed society is a polite society. What is the motivation for politeness in that scenario? The knowledge that anyone you encounter has been afforded the ultimate means to defend themselves or extract retribution if you have wronged them.

In the last 20 years my state and many others have gone from laws banning concealed carry, to permitted carry to permitless carry. It's right to assume everyone has a gun on them, don't give them a reason to ignore any repercussions they might get for shooting you dead, it's better to be breathing and wrong than dead and right. 

Fuck around and find out has been written into the law of the land, American society has been engineered for a return to the wild West, that means more than wearing funny hats and pointy boots. Keep you eyes open, and don't give anyone a reason to want you dead, people throw their life away for way dumber reasons than vengeance.

What happened to Brian Thompson is a tragedy. It's no bigger tragedy than what happened in Uvalde, Sandy Hook, Aurora, El Paso, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, etc. it will be interesting to see how well the second amendment holds up with the ruling class feeling threatened given events of the past few months.

TeamGreen wrote:
Wow…That’s a lot of words to explain the following…In NYC, a non-gun city, a piece of shit coward walked up and shot a man…in the fucking...

Wow…That’s a lot of words to explain the following…

In NYC, a non-gun city, a piece of shit coward walked up and shot a man…in the fucking back. Period.

Someone’s gonna open their mouth and say he wasn’t shot in the back…really? Go watch the video…the victim does turnaround and take shots to his front…AFTER the fucking coward walked up behind him and shot him…in the leg…from behind.

I think Early had a good point though.  Will the rules change if the money feels threatened? 

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12/11/2024 6:06pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Wow…That’s a lot of words to explain the following…In NYC, a non-gun city, a piece of shit coward walked up and shot a man…in the fucking...

Wow…That’s a lot of words to explain the following…

In NYC, a non-gun city, a piece of shit coward walked up and shot a man…in the fucking back. Period.

Someone’s gonna open their mouth and say he wasn’t shot in the back…really? Go watch the video…the victim does turnaround and take shots to his front…AFTER the fucking coward walked up behind him and shot him…in the leg…from behind.

I didnt say it was right, I just said it isn't surprising.

Happens everyday, doesn't make this any more or less tragic, if you haven't been on the street when bullets start flying consider yourself lucky.

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12/11/2024 6:10pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Wow…the excuses…the justification…hell…The Support!For this fucking assassin is mind blowing.No worries. They’re all just showing us “who they are”.This is interesting and informative…and…sad. Like their new...

Wow…the excuses…the justification…hell…The Support!

For this fucking assassin is mind blowing.

No worries. They’re all just showing us “who they are”.

This is interesting and informative…and…sad. Like their new hero, many of these people are psychotic. 

Like I said twice already.......this thread is disturbing.It is perplexing that the Vitards have such a cavalier outlook on the cold-blooded murder of a human being...

Like I said twice already.......this thread is disturbing.

It is perplexing that the Vitards have such a cavalier outlook on the cold-blooded murder of a human being who had a wife and kids.

Danm.

Not attacking you here but, I’ll paint a picture. 
Imagine being thirteen and, getting told your grandmother who raised you, has cancer. 
Her belly begins to swell up with fluid caused by the tumor growing on her ovary. She goes to the doctor, you go with her and, she walks out of the appointment in tears. Her insurance has been canceled. Imagine waking up in the middle of the night, hearing her cry in pain several times a week because of the swelling the fluid is causing. Finally, a motor home gets sold to pay for some relief of getting that fluid drained two months after the diagnosis. The family cabin gets sold to pay for the first couple rounds of chemo while your grandfather hires a lawyer to sue the insurance company (United Healthcare)…, Money starts running out, time passes by and, there’s a prescriptions needing filled. More rounds of chemo needed. You go from having three meals to one per day. Your grandfather gets laid off and, because of his age, can’t find a job. 
 

The insurance company wins the case. 

Your grandmothers health continues on a downward spiral over the next year.  Her hair is all gone. She sleeps most of the day. Finally, without money, it’s time to sell the house. The house gets sold and, move in with family. Couple days later, she collapses, goes to the hospital and, is now on a morphine drip as gangrene sets in throughout her body. Lastly, she passes away. There’s no money in the bank. No food in the house and, at 16 can’t remember the last time you had an actual meal as your friends at school are eating lunch while looking at being homeless.  

It’ll change you. Those are just bullet points without all the details so, it’s not that hard to feel the way I do about healthcare providers. Almost three years of watching a loved one suffer, it really isn’t that hard to understand. 

Carry on, rant over

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