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11/20/2024 8:07pm
Mayzo52 wrote:
So if the Deeg’s was preparing, wouldn’t we have heard a couple of weeks ago? The promo videos would’ve been up on the YouTube channel  Has...

So if the Deeg’s was preparing, wouldn’t we have heard a couple of weeks ago? The promo videos would’ve been up on the YouTube channel  

Has Deeg’s actually got a passport ?

Why would a family worth millions not have a passport?

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I don't suppose we can expect any of our intrepid moto 'journalists' to fire off an email, text, or phone call to the Lawrence, Deegan, and...

I don't suppose we can expect any of our intrepid moto 'journalists' to fire off an email, text, or phone call to the Lawrence, Deegan, and Old Hombre camps asking about this whole circus?

truck wrote:
Darkside texted Deegan yesterday and talked about it on his podcast last night. Said that he also reached out to Anderson and someone from Lawrence camp...

Darkside texted Deegan yesterday and talked about it on his podcast last night. Said that he also reached out to Anderson and someone from Lawrence camp. Deegan confirmed the story. Anderson said he had no idea but posted something for fun basically. No answer from Lawrence side. He also said ML reached out to Adam Bailey for comment from ausx side. The vital crew is trying!!!

If that's the case good work from Darkside. 

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if it hasn't been said, if i were team lawrence, i wouldnt want deegs there either. dude is gonna go wrecking ball* in an offseason race just to prove something and the golden bros (mirtl) don't wanna risk injury racing a sociopath for limited upside. 

 

*as a fan, more power to deegs for racing the way he does, but looking at it from the lawrence's camp POV, it would make sense. that said i don't like Mirtl at all, and i'm not defending them either, if this is accurate. 

 

now all the folks who don't wanna grok nuance downvote away. 

 

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11/20/2024 8:45pm
Tyler D wrote:
if it hasn't been said, if i were team lawrence, i wouldnt want deegs there either. dude is gonna go wrecking ball* in an offseason race...

if it hasn't been said, if i were team lawrence, i wouldnt want deegs there either. dude is gonna go wrecking ball* in an offseason race just to prove something and the golden bros (mirtl) don't wanna risk injury racing a sociopath for limited upside. 

 

*as a fan, more power to deegs for racing the way he does, but looking at it from the lawrence's camp POV, it would make sense. that said i don't like Mirtl at all, and i'm not defending them either, if this is accurate. 

 

now all the folks who don't wanna grok nuance downvote away. 

 

They race different classes. Deegan can be aggressive. But in all honesty he isn’t stupid enough to take unnecessary risks in a meaningless race against nobodies. If he were in 450 class against Jett, hunter and Webb. He probably would try proving a point.


But in that 250 class he could lap second place easily without breaking a sweat. The standard of riding in Australia is ridiculously low compared to Europe and America. 

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Ah I gotcha. Thought it was combined there. My bad

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Tyler D wrote:
if it hasn't been said, if i were team lawrence, i wouldnt want deegs there either. dude is gonna go wrecking ball* in an offseason race...

if it hasn't been said, if i were team lawrence, i wouldnt want deegs there either. dude is gonna go wrecking ball* in an offseason race just to prove something and the golden bros (mirtl) don't wanna risk injury racing a sociopath for limited upside. 

 

*as a fan, more power to deegs for racing the way he does, but looking at it from the lawrence's camp POV, it would make sense. that said i don't like Mirtl at all, and i'm not defending them either, if this is accurate. 

 

now all the folks who don't wanna grok nuance downvote away. 

 

I see what you're saying.....

 

...but if true...it's just chicken shit.    Period.           Also if true...as has been said already, really bad for this sport.    

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Tyler D wrote:
if it hasn't been said, if i were team lawrence, i wouldnt want deegs there either. dude is gonna go wrecking ball* in an offseason race...

if it hasn't been said, if i were team lawrence, i wouldnt want deegs there either. dude is gonna go wrecking ball* in an offseason race just to prove something and the golden bros (mirtl) don't wanna risk injury racing a sociopath for limited upside. 

 

*as a fan, more power to deegs for racing the way he does, but looking at it from the lawrence's camp POV, it would make sense. that said i don't like Mirtl at all, and i'm not defending them either, if this is accurate. 

 

now all the folks who don't wanna grok nuance downvote away. 

 

Magoofan wrote:
I see what you're saying..... ...but if true...it's just chicken shit.    Period.           Also if true...as has been said already, really bad...

I see what you're saying.....

 

...but if true...it's just chicken shit.    Period.           Also if true...as has been said already, really bad for this sport.    

IF true!

If it's not it's just a bullshit beat up that is getting a lot of vaginas all sandy

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I actually kind of get it. Imagine it’s just a one of race that doesn’t mean anything. Your focused on supercross. Then HD and A line...

I actually kind of get it. Imagine it’s just a one of race that doesn’t mean anything. Your focused on supercross. Then HD and A line up with an opportunity to take out a Lawrence to try to prove some weird point at a race that doesn’t matter. 
HD and A would be going hard out with a chip on their shoulder. Jett and Hunter would just be cruising around staying healthy and meeting fans. 

I agree, I'm racing this weekend because most of the fast guys are at Mini O's.

That makes me a pussy.

 

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Kooksey is full of shit

“ Deegans stirring the pot”

“ Myrtle’s ghey, look at his pants”

“I kind of get why they’d do that”

Honorable mention: Brian banned riders from FMX 20 years ago 

This sums the last 24 hours up right?

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I’m pretty sure duffe is a well respected mechanic at the races. He seems very private and dosent post a lot. When he said he dosent...

I’m pretty sure duffe is a well respected mechanic at the races. He seems very private and dosent post a lot. When he said he dosent agree with cooksey often but says he’s spot on,I’m going to have to agree with duffe. If you have two individuals that say he or she cannot race this race because my feelings are hurt..:::this sport is headed in the wrong direction. What about stew and Reed? They talked a lot of shit,got into each others faces and said let’s handle this on the track. The part I don’t get is they don’t even race in the same class,just Anderson. Rivalries and shit talking bring some excitement to the sport,give heated battles ect. Now we have two brothers that literally think they own this sport when two riders are dictating who can race and who can’t.

Magoofan wrote:

This is the "growing the sport" we've been looking for though...  💡

Growing the sport is not agree to pay a specific amount to ANY rider,then having another rider or riders complain and say we don’t want them here and then getting a call from the promoter saying sorry we don’t have the funds. The promoter knows exactly what he has to spend and should know his budget at all times. So instead of saying to the media that the brothers don’t want those two there they make it about money because they know those riders will not travel or race for free if everyone else is getting paid. Regardless of who you like or dislike,this is NOT good for the sport and sure as hell will not grow it.

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Jesus Christ the emotions and lack of critical thinking in here is crazy. 

Deegan can race if he wants to he’s just not getting paid to show up. What’s the big deal?  

this is all a bunch of hoopla created by the deegans and you guys are eating it up.  I thought he needed time to recover from his surgery? Just to be ready for A1?

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I still wanna hear about the Ward racing and mrtle drama from couple pages ago

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Tyler D wrote:
if it hasn't been said, if i were team lawrence, i wouldnt want deegs there either. dude is gonna go wrecking ball* in an offseason race...

if it hasn't been said, if i were team lawrence, i wouldnt want deegs there either. dude is gonna go wrecking ball* in an offseason race just to prove something and the golden bros (mirtl) don't wanna risk injury racing a sociopath for limited upside. 

 

*as a fan, more power to deegs for racing the way he does, but looking at it from the lawrence's camp POV, it would make sense. that said i don't like Mirtl at all, and i'm not defending them either, if this is accurate. 

 

now all the folks who don't wanna grok nuance downvote away. 

 

Magoofan wrote:
I see what you're saying..... ...but if true...it's just chicken shit.    Period.           Also if true...as has been said already, really bad...

I see what you're saying.....

 

...but if true...it's just chicken shit.    Period.           Also if true...as has been said already, really bad for this sport.    

jemcee wrote:

IF true!

If it's not it's just a bullshit beat up that is getting a lot of vaginas all sandy

It seems telling that when Dark reached out to the Lawrence camp, Deegan and Anderson that he heard back from Deegan confirming it and Anderson but nothing from the Lawrence’s. If I were in the Lawrence camp and this isn’t true I’m responding to claim my innocence. 

I’m also wondering if Adam Bailey gets back to ML.

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I haven't read the entire thread but if this is true Deegs can't really do anything on the track next year but if I was Anderson...

I haven't read the entire thread but if this is true Deegs can't really do anything on the track next year but if I was Anderson, I'd be breaking a leg at A1. 

I'm not picking sides but if you take money out of my wallet, I'm taking money out of yours. 

Herr Lich wrote:
Any rider who would willingly break another rider's leg is a disgraceful individual and utterly devoid of sportsmanship. That you believe the Lawrence's so called ban...

Any rider who would willingly break another rider's leg is a disgraceful individual and utterly devoid of sportsmanship. That you believe the Lawrence's so called ban on another rider competing at an exhibition race calls for them being physically injured shows a lot about your character mate. 

WWBHD

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Hodge336 wrote:
It seems telling that when Dark reached out to the Lawrence camp, Deegan and Anderson that he heard back from Deegan confirming it and Anderson but...

It seems telling that when Dark reached out to the Lawrence camp, Deegan and Anderson that he heard back from Deegan confirming it and Anderson but nothing from the Lawrence’s. If I were in the Lawrence camp and this isn’t true I’m responding to claim my innocence. 

I’m also wondering if Adam Bailey gets back to ML.

Right, they probably aren't busy this week with travel or race logistics and have plenty of free time to waste. We should hear back soon.

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Magoofan wrote:
I see what you're saying..... ...but if true...it's just chicken shit.    Period.           Also if true...as has been said already, really bad...

I see what you're saying.....

 

...but if true...it's just chicken shit.    Period.           Also if true...as has been said already, really bad for this sport.    

jemcee wrote:

IF true!

If it's not it's just a bullshit beat up that is getting a lot of vaginas all sandy

Hodge336 wrote:
It seems telling that when Dark reached out to the Lawrence camp, Deegan and Anderson that he heard back from Deegan confirming it and Anderson but...

It seems telling that when Dark reached out to the Lawrence camp, Deegan and Anderson that he heard back from Deegan confirming it and Anderson but nothing from the Lawrence’s. If I were in the Lawrence camp and this isn’t true I’m responding to claim my innocence. 

I’m also wondering if Adam Bailey gets back to ML.

I spoke to Adam Bailey and Eric Peronnard, they claim there was never an agreement in place for Deegan to race the event. Eric’s exact response was “I never had Deegan on the roster”

I’m not going to read through the whole thread, but Anderson admitted already he was never planning on going (Kawasaki won’t allow it) but he commented for fun / stroke the flames.

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Herr Lich wrote:
I don't suppose we can expect any of our intrepid moto 'journalists' to fire off an email, text, or phone call to the Lawrence, Deegan, and...

I don't suppose we can expect any of our intrepid moto 'journalists' to fire off an email, text, or phone call to the Lawrence, Deegan, and Old Hombre camps asking about this whole circus?

gerg wrote:
In a niche sport one would think this is massive news and journos would be all over it trying to find out what is going on...considering...

In a niche sport one would think this is massive news and journos would be all over it trying to find out what is going on...considering this is currently tanking the Lawrences reputation with the Deegans happily adding fuel to the fire.

So far we are into Day 2 with nothing but speculation and hearsay.

Maybe this is why it's a niche sport.

A lot of finger pointing or confusion. I was in traffic for nine hours yesterday to go to a one hour meeting. So my day was fairly shot in terms of research. Got a few calls in but not far enough along yet.

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11/21/2024 7:58am Edited Date/Time 11/21/2024 8:34am
jemcee wrote:

IF true!

If it's not it's just a bullshit beat up that is getting a lot of vaginas all sandy

Hodge336 wrote:
It seems telling that when Dark reached out to the Lawrence camp, Deegan and Anderson that he heard back from Deegan confirming it and Anderson but...

It seems telling that when Dark reached out to the Lawrence camp, Deegan and Anderson that he heard back from Deegan confirming it and Anderson but nothing from the Lawrence’s. If I were in the Lawrence camp and this isn’t true I’m responding to claim my innocence. 

I’m also wondering if Adam Bailey gets back to ML.

ML512 wrote:
I spoke to Adam Bailey and Eric Peronnard, they claim there was never an agreement in place for Deegan to race the event. Eric’s exact response...

I spoke to Adam Bailey and Eric Peronnard, they claim there was never an agreement in place for Deegan to race the event. Eric’s exact response was “I never had Deegan on the roster”

I’m not going to read through the whole thread, but Anderson admitted already he was never planning on going (Kawasaki won’t allow it) but he commented for fun / stroke the flames.

I think the pertinent question would be was there an agreement in place between the Lawrence camp and the promoter to limit the participation of Deegan, Anderson and Roczen? 

I personally don't think any of them planned to race it, but once they heard their names were mentioned in the agreement they took the opportunity to jab the Lawrences publicly.

I also agree it's a bit of an off-season nothing burger (apologies to bvm111). I'm sure these type of arrangements have always been around the promoters have just been smart enough not to allow it to go public. 

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Hodge336 wrote:
It seems telling that when Dark reached out to the Lawrence camp, Deegan and Anderson that he heard back from Deegan confirming it and Anderson but...

It seems telling that when Dark reached out to the Lawrence camp, Deegan and Anderson that he heard back from Deegan confirming it and Anderson but nothing from the Lawrence’s. If I were in the Lawrence camp and this isn’t true I’m responding to claim my innocence. 

I’m also wondering if Adam Bailey gets back to ML.

3strokemx wrote:

Right, they probably aren't busy this week with travel or race logistics and have plenty of free time to waste. We should hear back soon.

He said he reached out to Mitrle, not Jett or Hunter. Agents and PR guys are paid to deal with this stuff so you’d think they’d be on top of it

11/21/2024 8:03am

So a nothing burger? The off season makes you go crazy  don't it? 😂🤪

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GrapeApe wrote:
I think the pertinent question would be was there an agreement in place between the Lawrence camp and the promoter to limit the participation of Deegan...

I think the pertinent question would be was there an agreement in place between the Lawrence camp and the promoter to limit the participation of Deegan, Anderson and Roczen? 

I personally don't think any of them planned to race it, but once they heard their names were mentioned in the agreement they took the opportunity to jab the Lawrences publicly.

I also agree it's a bit of an off-season nothing burger (apologies to bvm111). I'm sure these type of arrangements have always been around the promoters have just been smart enough not to allow it to go public. 

^ Seems like the most level-headed and logical comment in this thread.  In addition, if there was any effort (financial or any other) to discourage any other specific riders from coming, this was clearly planned to be the Lawrence Brothers show, the last thing they want is another superstar rider with arguably the same amount (or more) of popularity taking any of that spotlight.  And you can't really blame them if that is the case, the Lawrence brothers are a stand-out enigma, something we have not really seen before, coming to their home country to race in the same class in a one-off race for the home fans, on the same stage, that IS the show.  I am obviously speculating, but there is some logic there that nobody has really mentioned in this entertaining thread.

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I heard they put it in the contract that nobody was allowed to race with them and they are guaranteed 1st and 2nd place.

I mean it's meant to be a "Homecoming Spectacle" anyway so what's the big deal if they fix the results, right?

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I put the term “nothing burger” right up there with “color way” on the annoying scale 🤦‍♂️

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GrapeApe wrote:
I think the pertinent question would be was there an agreement in place between the Lawrence camp and the promoter to limit the participation of Deegan...

I think the pertinent question would be was there an agreement in place between the Lawrence camp and the promoter to limit the participation of Deegan, Anderson and Roczen? 

I personally don't think any of them planned to race it, but once they heard their names were mentioned in the agreement they took the opportunity to jab the Lawrences publicly.

I also agree it's a bit of an off-season nothing burger (apologies to bvm111). I'm sure these type of arrangements have always been around the promoters have just been smart enough not to allow it to go public. 

^ Seems like the most level-headed and logical comment in this thread.  In addition, if there was any effort (financial or any other) to discourage any...

^ Seems like the most level-headed and logical comment in this thread.  In addition, if there was any effort (financial or any other) to discourage any other specific riders from coming, this was clearly planned to be the Lawrence Brothers show, the last thing they want is another superstar rider with arguably the same amount (or more) of popularity taking any of that spotlight.  And you can't really blame them if that is the case, the Lawrence brothers are a stand-out enigma, something we have not really seen before, coming to their home country to race in the same class in a one-off race for the home fans, on the same stage, that IS the show.  I am obviously speculating, but there is some logic there that nobody has really mentioned in this entertaining thread.

Honestly probably doing deegs a favor. His reception wouldn’t be warm from a large contingent of aus fans after he battled hunter in 2023 and tried to leverage the aus vs usa angle in there favor

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jemcee wrote:

IF true!

If it's not it's just a bullshit beat up that is getting a lot of vaginas all sandy

Hodge336 wrote:
It seems telling that when Dark reached out to the Lawrence camp, Deegan and Anderson that he heard back from Deegan confirming it and Anderson but...

It seems telling that when Dark reached out to the Lawrence camp, Deegan and Anderson that he heard back from Deegan confirming it and Anderson but nothing from the Lawrence’s. If I were in the Lawrence camp and this isn’t true I’m responding to claim my innocence. 

I’m also wondering if Adam Bailey gets back to ML.

ML512 wrote:
I spoke to Adam Bailey and Eric Peronnard, they claim there was never an agreement in place for Deegan to race the event. Eric’s exact response...

I spoke to Adam Bailey and Eric Peronnard, they claim there was never an agreement in place for Deegan to race the event. Eric’s exact response was “I never had Deegan on the roster”

I’m not going to read through the whole thread, but Anderson admitted already he was never planning on going (Kawasaki won’t allow it) but he commented for fun / stroke the flames.

Anderson stoking the flames, you LIE!!!!!!!  🤣

That's very un Anderson like. Hahahahaha

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I heard they put it in the contract that nobody was allowed to race with them and they are guaranteed 1st and 2nd place.I mean it's...

I heard they put it in the contract that nobody was allowed to race with them and they are guaranteed 1st and 2nd place.

I mean it's meant to be a "Homecoming Spectacle" anyway so what's the big deal if they fix the results, right?

99.9% chance the opening ceremony has them ride out to Foo fighters "There goes my herooo" 

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99.9% chance the opening ceremony has them ride out to Foo fighters "There goes my herooo" 

Top dirt bike racers in the world, they deserve it.PODIUM-MXoN-UK-2024

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Deeganshines...

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Magoofan wrote:
I see what you're saying..... ...but if true...it's just chicken shit.    Period.           Also if true...as has been said already, really bad...

I see what you're saying.....

 

...but if true...it's just chicken shit.    Period.           Also if true...as has been said already, really bad for this sport.    

jemcee wrote:

IF true!

If it's not it's just a bullshit beat up that is getting a lot of vaginas all sandy

Hodge336 wrote:
It seems telling that when Dark reached out to the Lawrence camp, Deegan and Anderson that he heard back from Deegan confirming it and Anderson but...

It seems telling that when Dark reached out to the Lawrence camp, Deegan and Anderson that he heard back from Deegan confirming it and Anderson but nothing from the Lawrence’s. If I were in the Lawrence camp and this isn’t true I’m responding to claim my innocence. 

I’m also wondering if Adam Bailey gets back to ML.

I can tell you didnt listen to the pod and are repeating something you heard because this is not accurate at all. I listened to the pod. Dark said he talked to anderson and anderson said quote “when I got back from practice I noticed my phone was blowing up and didnt know what it was about, so I posted something to stir the pot, but I’m not sure what theyre talking about. I wasnt going to race australia anyways”. Thats the direct quote. 

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