Prado vs Pierer Mobility

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11/11/2024 1:39pm
sam hain wrote:

RD doesn't strike me as someone that puts much stock in off-road racing. Which is sad given its KTM's bread and butter, or used to be.

Just goes to show how out of touch he is with who actually buys the bikes that fund his paychecks.

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11/11/2024 11:25pm
MXMattii wrote:

Re-Watch Tixier his championship winning, same story because he went to Kawasaki CLS.

That was quite an extraordinary story. Herlings was winning the championship easily, until he had that crash on the 85cc during Everts and Friends. By that time, Tixier already had signed with Kawasaki. KTM didn't extend his contract. They never expected Herlings to not win the championship that year. Tixier stepped it up big time once Herlings broke his femur, maybe new motivation or he knew it was now or never. 

I think as a team member it was a weird time. On one hand you're heartbroken for the guy that literally rode with a broken femur to win the championship and miss it by a few points. On the other hand you have Tixier, who didn't live up to his potential until that moment to win a world championship and had his fair amount of stress/pressure that year (his brother had a big accident). That was a weird end of the season for sure. 

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11/12/2024 3:40am
sam hain wrote:

RD doesn't strike me as someone that puts much stock in off-road racing. Which is sad given its KTM's bread and butter, or used to be.

LungButter wrote:

Just goes to show how out of touch he is with who actually buys the bikes that fund his paychecks.

Or goes to show he knows what’s in his job description and doesn’t give in to outside distractions 🤷‍♂️

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11/12/2024 5:19am
sam hain wrote:

RD doesn't strike me as someone that puts much stock in off-road racing. Which is sad given its KTM's bread and butter, or used to be.

LungButter wrote:

Just goes to show how out of touch he is with who actually buys the bikes that fund his paychecks.

yak651 wrote:

Or goes to show he knows what’s in his job description and doesn’t give in to outside distractions 🤷‍♂️

What's his job title?

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11/12/2024 8:27am
yak651 wrote:

Or goes to show he knows what’s in his job description and doesn’t give in to outside distractions 🤷‍♂️

Could be.  

I woulda assumed that his Job Description woulda involved helping the riders on the Team get the best results possible by providing them the necessary resources and support.  

Apparently his job description was to be a dick and run off one of the most well known and marquee riders that KTM has had in a super awkward and public manner 🤷‍♂️

 

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11/12/2024 8:35am
LungButter wrote:
Could be.  I woulda assumed that his Job Description woulda involved helping the riders on the Team get the best results possible by providing them the...

Could be.  

I woulda assumed that his Job Description woulda involved helping the riders on the Team get the best results possible by providing them the necessary resources and support.  

Apparently his job description was to be a dick and run off one of the most well known and marquee riders that KTM has had in a super awkward and public manner 🤷‍♂️

 

To steal another sports term the Russell situation is way to ‘inside baseball’ for most people to notice, or give a shit. 

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11/12/2024 12:58pm

Gas Gas Europe didn’t buy t-shirts….. translates into DeCoster sucks??

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11/12/2024 1:04pm

Gas Gas Europe didn’t buy t-shirts….. translates into DeCoster sucks??

I thought it was more about the culture at KTM and some of the crap Decoster has done was being used as examples.

But if I were a Decoster worshipper and was looking to deflect from him being a dick, I'd probably have a response similar to yours.

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11/12/2024 1:13pm

Gas Gas Europe didn’t buy t-shirts….. translates into DeCoster sucks??

LungButter wrote:
I thought it was more about the culture at KTM and some of the crap Decoster has done was being used as examples.But if I were...

I thought it was more about the culture at KTM and some of the crap Decoster has done was being used as examples.

But if I were a Decoster worshipper and was looking to deflect from him being a dick, I'd probably have a response similar to yours.

I agree with his point, though. Decoster absolutely did Russell wrong, and it was ridiculous for him to say on live TV that retired Dungey and Cairoli really need to pick it up and get better results. But what does that have to do with a private GasGas team in Europe and how they handle their championship celebration, that was actually handled really well? This thread is weird. lol

 

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11/12/2024 2:26pm
LungButter wrote:

Just goes to show how out of touch he is with who actually buys the bikes that fund his paychecks.

yak651 wrote:

Or goes to show he knows what’s in his job description and doesn’t give in to outside distractions 🤷‍♂️

JazzyJJ wrote:

What's his job title?

No clue, probably something like US director of MX/SX team, responsible for the success of the program, not tied to the off road program. 

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11/12/2024 2:41pm
yak651 wrote:

No clue, probably something like US director of MX/SX team, responsible for the success of the program, not tied to the off road program. 

You're not wrong, if Decoster was tied to the off road side they would only hire dudes who were already champions and then brag about making them champions.  The off road team actually develops young riders into future champions, something Decoster hasn't been able to do that much.

 

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11/12/2024 3:36pm
yak651 wrote:

No clue, probably something like US director of MX/SX team, responsible for the success of the program, not tied to the off road program. 

LungButter wrote:
You're not wrong, if Decoster was tied to the off road side they would only hire dudes who were already champions and then brag about making...

You're not wrong, if Decoster was tied to the off road side they would only hire dudes who were already champions and then brag about making them champions.  The off road team actually develops young riders into future champions, something Decoster hasn't been able to do that much.

 

Since when did UpTite take over your account.....

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11/12/2024 8:00pm
DonM wrote:

Since when did UpTite take over your account.....

He's not wrong. 

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11/12/2024 9:16pm

You know... when he came to the US for the first SX races in 2024... the KTM group could have signed him to a US KTM group team due to his desire to be in the US and the results. From what I see - guessing here... KTM wanted him back in Europe as they have a US based team. However he wanted to come to the USA clearly. 

So a game of "chicken" was played. KTM said we'll send you to the US for a few races (meaning we're helping make your desires come true) but after that we want you in the Europe to defend your 450 title. However, while in the US.... after the 2-3 rounds... Kawi approached him. I suspect he more then likly let KTM know he had been approached... wanted a full time 2025 USA based deal. And KTM decided to play "chicken". They thought - he won't get a serious offer in the US for a full time factory gig after these few rounds. 

Opps..... KTM was WRONG. Now KTM is upset. Shoulda woulda coulda..... 

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11/13/2024 4:57am
PTshox wrote:
You know... when he came to the US for the first SX races in 2024... the KTM group could have signed him to a US KTM...

You know... when he came to the US for the first SX races in 2024... the KTM group could have signed him to a US KTM group team due to his desire to be in the US and the results. From what I see - guessing here... KTM wanted him back in Europe as they have a US based team. However he wanted to come to the USA clearly. 

So a game of "chicken" was played. KTM said we'll send you to the US for a few races (meaning we're helping make your desires come true) but after that we want you in the Europe to defend your 450 title. However, while in the US.... after the 2-3 rounds... Kawi approached him. I suspect he more then likly let KTM know he had been approached... wanted a full time 2025 USA based deal. And KTM decided to play "chicken". They thought - he won't get a serious offer in the US for a full time factory gig after these few rounds. 

Opps..... KTM was WRONG. Now KTM is upset. Shoulda woulda coulda..... 

Looking at what their stock has done today, where Prado rides next year is the least of their worries at the moment.

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11/13/2024 6:44pm
PTshox wrote:
You know... when he came to the US for the first SX races in 2024... the KTM group could have signed him to a US KTM...

You know... when he came to the US for the first SX races in 2024... the KTM group could have signed him to a US KTM group team due to his desire to be in the US and the results. From what I see - guessing here... KTM wanted him back in Europe as they have a US based team. However he wanted to come to the USA clearly. 

So a game of "chicken" was played. KTM said we'll send you to the US for a few races (meaning we're helping make your desires come true) but after that we want you in the Europe to defend your 450 title. However, while in the US.... after the 2-3 rounds... Kawi approached him. I suspect he more then likly let KTM know he had been approached... wanted a full time 2025 USA based deal. And KTM decided to play "chicken". They thought - he won't get a serious offer in the US for a full time factory gig after these few rounds. 

Opps..... KTM was WRONG. Now KTM is upset. Shoulda woulda coulda..... 

Looking at what their stock has done today, where Prado rides next year is the least of their worries at the moment.. 

Looking at what their stock has done today, where Prado rides next year is the least of their worries at the moment.

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Looks like its about time to buy a whole bunch of stock.

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11/13/2024 6:52pm
LungButter wrote:

Just goes to show how out of touch he is with who actually buys the bikes that fund his paychecks.

yak651 wrote:

Or goes to show he knows what’s in his job description and doesn’t give in to outside distractions 🤷‍♂️

JazzyJJ wrote:

What's his job title?

Director of Motorsports, North America

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11/13/2024 7:19pm

That stock chart looks like a severed artery if you zoom out.  Traded at a high of 87.0 Euros back in December 2021.  Down 90.23% since then.
 

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That stock chart looks like a severed artery if you zoom out.  Traded at a high of 87.0 Euros back in December 2021.  Down 90.23% since...

That stock chart looks like a severed artery if you zoom out.  Traded at a high of 87.0 Euros back in December 2021.  Down 90.23% since then.
 

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That chart resembles my ambition to qualify for a National when I was younger.

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