I’m a proud liberal!! TW would hate me, I know!
I put this on my FB wall after fact checking comments on my friends walls for the last week. I might as well come out to my moto family as well. I’d probably do more for you guys I don’t even know than I would for the majority of them anyway cause you know…motocross.
I mean I really learned my debate craft here, I’ve been practicing with some of the best political minds The OC can muster a couple from the OC RNC so I think I’m ready for what the best Vitards have to offer. I’m too tired to engage tonight but I have lots of receipts and thoughts to share if challenged no cut and paste. I won’t post links I don’t need to I have so much data to support my positions. I’ll post my opinions based on facts. With that being said
After stressing on this jump for a while now, I’ve sized up the landing, come up short, bounced it a couple times - now I’m ready.
I’m coming out…fully committed. btw Theres a 2fer in the last paragraphs that none of my friends ever knew about I’m ready to talk about.
Well everybody else’s wall is full of all kinds of political crap I might as well join in instead of just fact-checking some of what I consider to be some of OC’s most respected political minds at least in my neck of the woods and put my wall where my comments on my friend's posts are.
Jeez, by now I have I don’t even want to know how much material I have ready to defend my position, none of it cut and paste, all in my own words, all from verifiable legit sources. IMHO
What’s the worst that can happen, I may lose some discounts I enjoy in the motorcycle industry, and I could lose potential business or any future endeavors with my MAGA circle that aren’t already in one of the 4 friends wall comments I’m currently fact checking. It was 5 but Greg L couldn’t handle the heat and I got clippy clippy from his wall. I got cocky before I noticed how many followers he had. He challenged my assertion that one of his friends had PM’d me as a recent Rep turned Dem with support (which really meant a lot to me – keep em coming) .
He clipped me when I sent him a screen shot with the person’s name blacked out – my bad! I will never mention who they or the MAGA housewives I’ve heard from are, as IMHO that could become a real thing if trump gets in. Actually, us agitators will probably be the 2nd or 3rd tranche of arrests after the journalists, politicians and enemies within are all rounded up. You better believe this page comes down if trump wins. Believe what he tells you, he’s an honest man not subject to exaggeration.
Its unfortunate Greg L unfriended me, as he had over 2200 friends as opposed to the 1854 combined I’m trying to debate now, I think of specific people who I hope don’t see this – but more that I hope do read it like my old best friends Mom from Brentwood whose superstar surgeon son taught me more after I stopped hanging around with him than he ever did when he was alive and posts the most witty and funny FB content, Maseltof! or a couple of my friends from my old stomping grounds in WLA where apparently I really learned most of my core values at Brentwood Elementary and Paul Revere Jr High who have been vocal from the very start - brave. I’m thinking of you Larry! And that sexy gal in the cannabis industry who I somehow ended up on her FB page when I was in the hemp industry, she’s fighting the good fight with her followers too, yes Patti I don’t miss anything you post – safe travels. We don’t even know each other, I‘ll say hi one of these times were at the same convention in CO or Vegas. That must’ve been how we connected in the first place or Boulder Canopy(?)
Well I’m finally putn’ up the good fight down here in the deep red OC when it matters most. I really hope I can stop soon if not we will give him a chance right? – then fight like our republic depends on it.
I had this Olive Branch – Mea Culpa ready to post the day before the election, but I better post it now for maximum effect and before I push my luck too much farther. I really want to thank my friends for allowing me to infiltrate without cutting me off. Respect
Not so much a Mea Culpa as an Olive Branch
FITZ-G's Political FB disclaimer: I don’t think everybody who supports trump is a lunatic or racist. Or “F*cked in the head” or “drinking the kool aide” as I was told I was. I understand the need for change (vote for a black woman and I guarantee you will get change)😊 and I know most of you mean well and I understand how easy it is to get caught up in all the cultish fervor.
However if anyone in the peanut gallery wants to dispute anything I’ve said or wants to bring up something specific but doesn’t want to come out publicly as a MAGAdonor feel free to send me more DM’s, I don’t judge and will be discreet.
OK, I suppose I won’t convince anyone I haven’t already. If just one more MAGA wife or friend of mine comes out of the ether in time this will have been worth it - I suppose. Still, mostly I want everyone to know where I stood before she starts bringing people together, takes a real bipartisan stab at the border without the politics (we all want the same thing), crime continues to drop, the stock market continues to rise, and prices continue to stabilize. She finds a place for Liz and maybe another common sense republican or two in her cabinet and/or inner circle and were all singing kumbaya.
if trump wins MAGA will have to own and forever defend their decision when the crippling tariffs start and Musk (this ain’t rocket science smarty pants…just dribble) starts giving us all a haircut and women in CA start dying in hospital parking lots like is starting to happen all over the rest of the country and all the other doom the left is predicting, and all our children start emulating trump, and foul fucking language becomes even more acceptable. Grab any pussy’s lately? Cause ya you know can when you’re a star.
I will not and do not judge anyone, I saw the fervor and group think take over at least half my friends, many a lot smarter than me, faster than you could say “Ted Cruz changed his mind, so did McConnell” or “Kevin McCarthy went to Marlago after criticizing the Insurrection” or even “I love spell check”
It was text book. Those who understand media marketing and fascism and authoritarianism can respect trumps true skills. It’s like Putin, junUn, Bolsonaro or one of his other dictator buddies gave him a crash course somewhere along the line.
On the other hand if trump wins I’ll start capitalizing his name out of respect and hope for the best, but if/WHEN the shit I’m afraid of starts happening I’ll be the first to say I told you so.
I’ll accept a Harris loss like I have for every other election where the opposition won, I just hope MAGA will do the same.
This has been really hard for me. I knew before I started that if I don’t seriously strain some relationships – I may outright lose some friends and completely kill my chance of doing any sort of business in CA anymore. I feel some of my pundits feel the same way lest they engage with me. I’ve already possibly lost one lifelong friend before this all started – from one incident or miscalculation on at least one of our parts - but really it’s politics, the sad thing is I’ve always know where he stood, but he’s only recently known where I stood or felt it was OK to talk about politics around me. It brings tears to my eyes. One of my closest and oldest friends who introduced me to some of you. Some of you probably know who I’m taking about. Hopefully, time will get us back on track someday, I am not hopeful if I believed what he does I wouldn’t trust anybody on the left either.
That's how passionate I am. You may have noticed I pay little more attention to politics than any of you may have thought and i have some strong opinions, I’d like to think I’m good like that with a lot of things.
I can handle higher taxes, more guns, continued mass shootings, fewer books, worse healthcare, and the end of abortions I’ll never be a party to. I’ve never been called an alarmist but I’m just really concerned about losing what people much greater and braver than I have fought and died for over the years.
I just remember what we were afraid trump was going to do his first time in office and how much worse it actually ended up.
I want to fish and race motorcycles for the next 25 yrs or at least as long as I can and there’s still someone left to race against, (which is dwindling fast) - Not stress about society. It's been a bad year for motocross between sickness and a couple crashes RIP RR, RF, TW.
Bottom line if Kamala wins I hope I’m right, If trump wins I hope I’m wrong. Can we agree on that?
I am reminded of and feel this is a good a time as any to mention what Professor Phillip Morrison once said to the faculty at Cornell University to convince them and the guys in the black suits (Feds) to let my dad go, even if his theories, formulas and equations were too close to Oppenheimer’s to be a coincidence (commie paranoia was bad in the 50’s) They agreed and Morrison arranged a meeting with my dad and Einstein. – Unfortunately, he died literally the day my dad was driving to New Jersey – heard it on the radio and headed back to Cornell, my dad’s life was never the same.
Morrison proposed….
WHAT IF HE’S RIGHT??
Ok, Buckle up.
"I like crepes"
I'll propose some questions, pick 2 and discuss - if you dare:
? Do you believe we are a Constitutional Republic
? Do you believe in the Rule of Law? and by that I mean no man is above it, and how your whole profession works and what it’s based on, You know a 12-man jury of your peers that's chosen by your own attys, innocent until provan guilty, that that the verdict has to be unanimous, the whole evidence, making arguments and presenting a defense? What do they teach in law school about all that?
? So I can get a better feel for your ideology, Who are some good up and coming republican leaders you admire and why?
I’ll tell you mine if you tell me yours ~{
I’ll list some to remind you how deep your bench is: Josh Hawley, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz, Tommy Tuberville, Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan, Lauren Boebert, Jim Jordan, Rand Paul, James Comer
? What relationship with what foreign leader do admire trump the most for and why.
? Do you think Putin has any Kompromat on trump from way before 2015?
Before you answer, remember how rich and powerful trump pretended to be and how diabolical as the ex-head of the KGB Putin is. Do you think Putin would pass up the opportunity to compromise ANY powerful US citizen visiting Russa? Would you if you were a maniacal dictator? How about if that US citizen was a careless horney old man running Russian beauty pageants? I Am Making Zero assertions. I would never call trump a Russian asset, some people would but I never would call trump a Russian asset without proof. (see what I did there
? If trump wins the election do you think his criminal trials should proceed?
? Do you feel if trumps trials were in a different local he would the verdict be different?
? What piece of trump legislation besides lowering taxes on millionaires, billionaires and corporations, Roe v Wade and packing the court are you most proud of and why?
? What is your worst fear about Kamala and what do you like most about trump
? What left l argument do you hate and disagree with the most and what is your response to it. (I might be with ya)
? Do you believe if someone supports a man with racist tendencies that means you have racist tendencies?
? Have you looked up the description of CULT lately ?
? Does Justice Matter?
? Does Character Count?
? If your unable to defend your position why would you expect your followers to and why post all kinds of divisive misleading memes?
How do you convince your brain what your eyes sees of any Jan 6 footage isn’t true. How about your ears?
And I’m the brainwashed one……Got it.
I hope some of you undecideds out there are paying attention to how hard PHIL CA or SCOTT LIV are trying to defend voting for trump and how hard of a time they’re having. Normally Phil could debate the hell out of his political positions and hold his own with the best the OC RNC could muster. With trump not so much, so if your are undecided do some research while you ask yourself why that is.
“To the window, To the wall…”
You are at least 4 years too late, maybe 16. Now the day of reckoning is here. You know what you can do with your olive branch.
So you have. nothing, your going to have to do a whole lot better than that, choose ANY of my question marks. *hint* choose something you think I exaggerated and something you know a lot about. BTw if you can't defend your position, PLEASE show this thread to your wife and see if she can. Take all the time you want ...........Next.
Got Head? 😜
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Feels like you are not getting enough attention at home so you are seeking it on Facebook and online message boards.
This is a vicious cycle, as the attention you get will surely never fill the void you are trying to fill.
So you will need to say and behave even more outlandishly to garner even more attention.
Rinse and repeat until you eventually have guys pretending to be girls to get the attention they crave. Not understanding that it’s only temporary and will never sustain them.
Damn.
I have plenty, talking to a wall is nothing and unproductive. A waste of resources.
We need term limits on politicians and character limits per post on Vital.
I think we can all agree that Cool Hand Luke has the boards blessing to do what he does so well 😀
These are some pretty serious questions from someone who is voting for the person who starts the answer to every question she is asked with" let's talk about what Donald trump did..."
Nothing like having a known gang member who sings about her wet ass pussy as a endorsed supporter.
This whole thing seems like the all to familiar “look at me”…which is obviously why it’s titled the way it is…
“Its about my orientation. I finally came out…” 🤣
You cannot make this shit up.
The original post is a perfect illustration of the idiom: "Brevity is the Soul of Wit."
All lit up at 1am and nowhere to go.
I think he went to sleep it off.
I Wonder how Kamala would handle Putin?
Pit Row
Or…Vice-Versa? 🤣
Biden isn't making any decisions. We can most likely agree he can't even order off a menu these days. So whoever is actually deciding anything now, will be doing so if kamala was to win.
Keep it to yourself
Probably on her knees
Where's Falcon? He'll fix the grammar for her.
sometimes the jokes write themselves
Say what you want about orientation fluidity, but when it comes to politics I’m definitely in favor of it!
Anyone who identifies with a party really seems like they don’t want to think for themselves and just wants to know what their chosen ‘side’ wants them to think.
What are your experiences on a dirt bike ?
Did you use the term “Word Salad” in defending trump? That’s funny. Project much? Care to compare the rare example you could find compared to the myriad I could? Didn’t think so. I don’t hold that against trump(it’s like crowed size who gives AF), besides that’s how the vast majority of 80 yo’s sound. Word Salads don’t concern me when I can at least make them out, know what I mean? I’ve been speaking word salad my entire life.
Hey did you just see the video of him pretending to give head to the microphone last night? I didn’t think so. That’s where we’re at America. He looked pretty good at it. Why did the mic remind me of Putin?
Think about how anybody who gets into business with or tries to defend trump ends up broke or destitute or both.
Now, imagine it being a legit argument
You’ve made some general stmnts about how you feel MITCH JEFF I’ve posted a lot of crap. I’ve tried not to exaggerate Can you find a question mark and dispute it, *hint* find something you think I’ve exaggerated and that you know a lot about,,,,,take all the time you want.
As an American I don’t even want to know how you convince your brain that what your eyes and ears saw and heard on Jan 6th didn’t happen or have you been able to convince your brain it was AI, cause it seems a lot of people must be really good at on the fly Iphone video editing. Jus Sayn’
TeamGreen Oh come on! What path to success has trump demonstrated? He inherited all his wealth squandered most of it, and will lose the rest of it along with his freedom if he doesn’t get reelected.
Talk about desperate. You think he cares about us? Did you hear him beg for votes last night screaming he was in a LOT of trouble if they don’t vote him! Well yeah! How much do you think he cares about anyone except himself, do you think he wants to be POTUS? I didn’t say RUN for president his ego loves that.
Whats his motivation? Maybe get his mug on Rushmore He just wants to golf – but he was forced to fight for his freedom not yours!
He has zero income or prospects right now as NO ONE would touch his name in a licensing deal, which is the only way he can make money other than grifting you know like he did with the millions and millions he billed the tax payers paying all his secret service travel fees – I could go on.
Well other than maybe Mike Lindell who’s about to go broke because of his trumpiness or Alex Jones who is broke because well he’s Alexs Jones, or any of those other racist grifters he pals around with like Nick Fuentes
You know what he WAS good at, strong arming NY into giving him tax breaks and building an image (is that impressive to you and the skill you want to bring to the presidency)
With all the tax breaks NY gave him and his recent tax returns finally being disclosed, he could be considered arguable the biggest loser and worst businessman in the US, (am I exaggerating?) are you even aware of the business record of the guy you think would be our best choice in US.? Doesn’t sound like it. The Google is your friend though. I miss Bush
Why do you feel an elected official should NOT release his returns, why do you think he didn’t??
I follow fox, newsmax, OAN, RT, Epoch, The Economist and all other left wing propaganda outlets with the mostly without law degrees uneducated talking heads, I’ll even poke around redflag and storm front if my VPN bill is current just to get an idea where the right is headed.
What do news sources do you base your conclusions on? Where do you get your news info? I’ll hold my sources against where ever you get your info from. Who are some of the “journalist “ you admire? See where I’m going here?
What economic indicators are you going to cite, or really any indicators or stats – I would expect you to know much more than I about that than me I’m just some woke punk with a search engine yet everyone still feels trump would a good choice?
It doesn’t seem he has a good grasp on the intricacies of the border. I feel it's much more than building a wall that will be obsolete the day it’s finished. Think about it, how much $$ the carterls have, if they want to get across they will get across that’s just how it is.
Give the lady a chance. Give her the House, call it an experiment - like we did the time before, except this time we’ll have a fine-tuned politician ready and ABLE to get some shit done!.
What’s the worst that could happen – now, think vice versa.
A1 can not come fast enough
Good thing for you since you can't seem to write your own or have anything intelligent to say about politics. But i'd still lend you a tube to line up against me
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