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I understand, I don't know Tim or even care who Tim is, I'm here for the bikes!
I just read another thread where Newman called him a scammer?? So how does that line up?
I thought this one going to be one of those "he died" threads.
I had an old guy beat me out of three grand one time and after a while it became apparent that it was going to cost me more to pursue it than it was worth. I did get the joy of belittling him a bit in public on one occasion and then he got sick and died. Karma is a bitch. No doubt 718 is in line for some of that as well.
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This was Newmans post relating to 718 or Tim.......
I think Tim Taylor is the known scammer, Tim Nash is the one selling what is now called a former James Stewart bike. It appears to be the same bike Tim Taylor built back in 2013 but with different backgrounds and a new back story (previously claimed to be a former Nick Wey PC bike).
I don't know anything about Tim Nash, just clearing up the Tim confusion.
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My apologies, Went down this rabbit hole of scamming posts some 10 years old and got mixed up. Just didnt want anyone sticking up for a known scammer.
Does seem sketchy after reading your post that it was previously a "Nick Wey" bike, but now being sold as a JS7 bike. I saw the original post when I woke up a few days ago as I am in DFW not far from there, I didn't post it here as I assumed it was bullshit and not authentic.
This is the point exactly... Tim Taylor is just tied to the bike from years ago and here we are with new backgrounds and a new story.. nothing more nothing less...
Just as an fyi. I warned you all back in the day about Tim Taylor and his "Lamson" bike. Got told I was stupid. Even though I knew him personally. I'm pretty confident this is the same guy, because of the way he coats the covers etc. almost exactly the same way.
I’m not saying anything about the seller here. Maybe the current owner was sold this bike as being suggested it was JS7’s. Possibly paperwork created to more sell the heritage of it.
But, looking closely at these two images suggests the bike from the one Tim is indeed the same bike the second Tim owns.
Notice the safety wiring. What are the odds it would be identical in style, looping and such. Notice the orientation of the bolts for the power valve cover, and other bolts. They appear to be in the same orientation as finished tightened. Thats just one image comparison.
First Tim bike.
Admittedly the adjustment for the clutch cable appears loosened.The rust would be expected from sitting.
Second Tim.
Tim is a busy fellow.
What do you want to know about it?
Johnny only rode with that link a few times and didnt like it. That bike in the pic is the bike he rode in the Switzerland 125 GP, it was a GP based bike so he had to use the link.
David didn’t use the link until about half way through the outdoors. Hansen used it a bit longer.
Looking at the 23 bike in the picture that posted, I’m guessing it was probably a test bike set up to look like Baileys. Bailey had his seat cut down further than that.
All the factory mechanics put lock nuts on the cylinder base..
James didn't start racing a 250 until 2005. He didn't even turn pro until 2002.
Carbon fiber components were not being manufactured in 2000, especially that cute little power valve cover, chain guard and frame guard.
The Kawasaki factory bikes used special Mikuni carbs, not Keihin.
The factory Pro Circuit ignition and clutch covers were not that style back then.
The factory Kawasaki's used special oversized radiators.
They weren't using black rims back then.
That particular graphics kit and seat cover were from James' super-mini. He never ran those graphics on a 125 or 250.
In fact, I don't believe James ever raced for "Spitfire Kawasaki" as a pro. He was on the Chevy Kawasaki.
So, yeah, whatever "Tim" owns this bike and is trying to sell it as a James Strewart original is a POS scammer.
Yeah the Carbon fiber stuff started first in MotoGp in the mid 1980's with some of the teams. But we didn't see any moto related mass production stuff until around 2004.
I'm Tim Nash, the current owner of this bike in question. I have owned the bike since 2010 or so. Please don't confuse yourself or others that I'm Tim Taylor. I am not. He never owned the bike. I purchased it from a gentleman in Ca. when I lived there. I had hired Tim Taylor to do the restoration on the bike the way I wanted it done back in 2013 or so.
I understand a few guys on here have been scammed by Tim Taylor. I can see why you would be a little pissed off but I can assure you I am not that guy and have nothing to do with any of his business with others. I had no issues with Tim Taylor but that's not to say he's an outstanding guy or that you haven't been screwed.
First off, I'd like to thank the few people (you know who you are).. that really know me personally who had vouched for my integrity. I'm not a scammer. I'm a rider, racer, sometimes collector and a fan just as many of you are.
I'd like to address some of the points here that are, in my opinion misconceived and or made up. If you read the FB ad I posted, I posted only facts that I know to be true. No where does it claim in the ad that James raced the bike or when, if at all. It does not claim the bike was restored as raced, practiced, or even when ridden by James because I don't know those things.
I restored the bike as if it was a 2000 yr model race bike from PC. Most of the parts were on the bike when I purchased it. I added the rear shock, pipe, front disk, a few carbon pieces and plastic with graphics. I never claimed he rode or raced the PC bikes then or ever for that matter. Although we know he was ridding the 85cc PC bike and then went straight to the Factory 125 team.
I'm going out on a limb here (sarcasm) but just maybe James rode 125's and a 250 at times before he hit the stadium floor in 2002. It's documented he raced the 125 but It's not unheard of (very common) a rider of his caliber would also ride a 250 at some point before his pro career. Maybe in late 2000 or 2001. I don't know this to be a fact. Just my assumption since the bike was given to James. Maybe big James rode it for fun....Maybe I'm wrong, just my 2 cents.
As much as Tim Taylor is called a liar, thief and everything else, it seems odd that guys are quoting (believing) him as claiming this was a Nick Wey bike and therefore... how can mine be a JS bike now? Also claiming to see the title on this bike signed off on with various names. So much crap has been said, its hard to keep up.
Anyways, enough said. I've attached the original MSO paperwork from the factory showing it was given to James and then it looks like it was sent to a Rick Mace afterwards. I'm sure there will still be guys skeptical but this is what I know. It's my story and true to the best of my knowledge.
James "Bubba" Stewart was 14 years old in 2000. In the state of Florida, you have to be 16 years old to legally purchase an off road vehicle.
However, James M Stewart Sr., James' Dad (aka Big James), is the likely purchaser of this Kawasaki.
The Stewart's purchased the 1740 Kokomo Rd. property in 2000, in preparation for James turning pro. This property would eventually become the "James Stewart Compound."
In 2000, I suspect James Sr. was still spinning laps on a dirt bike, which explains why he bought a dirt bike directly from Kawasaki and is on the MSO. Again, James "Bubba" Stewart was 14 years old in 2000. He wouldn't ride a 250 for at least three more years. James Stewart Jr was still on a super-mini in 2000 and wouldn't start officially racing a 125 until 2001.
You have old man Stewart's bike. It was "restored" using completely inaccurate parts, and you are trying to sell it for TWENTY THOUSAND ACTUAL REAL AND NOT A JOKE DOLLARS as if it was owned by the James "Bubba" Stewart. That KX250 is worth $5000, at best.
Carry on...
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The last time the Stewart family purchased a dirt bike was most likely a pw 50. This bike is a great looking build but nowhere close to a 20k bike.
Looks like he was half owner of this one.
Workspilot, is the bike you are selling the same bike as being suggested belonged to Tim Taylor?
The link to it is in this thread.
Let’s just get it out there, the ad wanted you to think it was JS’s personal bike no matter what the seller is saying now.
It isn’t and never was JS’s bike. A 14 year old kid is not going to have an MSO signed over to him, it would be to his parent/guardian. Stop with the bullshit, the seller knows exactly what the real deal is.
$20k? I’d feel bad for anyone that pays that much for that bike.
BTW, you sound like an idiot when you do this:
"Will except Cash or Bank Transfer only”
Being the “purchaser” on a MSO doesn’t mean you actually paid money for it. The MSO serves as the only documentation proving ownership when not “purchased” through normal retail channels.
Kawi probably gave this bike to James Sr. to putt around on while his son rapidly turned into the greatest talents to ever ride a dirt bike right before his eyes.
I'd be interested to know if the signature is actually that of the person. Reason? If not, someone might be in trouble for forgery. I would not put it past Tim Taylor. Finding a bike with a blank mso isn't out of the ordinary. For the mere fact that this Tim knows or let THE Tim Taylor "work" on this bike, tells me pretty much everything. I kind of hoped he would say, never heard of him and don't know him. But admitting he does and Tim Taylor had part in this, 🤔......
Why does the MSO have a date of 4/23/2002 for a 2000 bike? I'm betting it was a holdover that like has already been said, it was signed over to Big James to ride around the compound and watch Bubba. If the year is 2002 there's no way Bubba is riding around on a two-year-old bike, he wouldn't need to.
Also, If it's not being sold off as James "Bubba" Stewarts bike then why put this in the add: "Here’s a chance to own some real moto history from one of the sport's best riders to ever throw a leg over a motorcycle. "
Sure sounds like fraud to me.
Also, typing of Rick Mace is identical as James. So same typewriter. How would that make sense , other than a person typed one name, then typed another. Also, a tell tale sign of what we probably know.
Seems to be fake as much as the bike that has wrong parts on it is. Fake News...
The person how signed it has worked at Kawasaki for 36 years...
https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlene-rhodes-b72a881b5
If someone knows her, maybe ask if it's her that actually signed that or if it's a forgery. I find it interesting that whoever typed James Stewart, spaced down and typed Rick Mace. Same typewriter, same font and spacing.
Or!?! Maybe James senior hooked a buddy named Rick Mace up. Said I'll get you a deal on a bike? James never took bike, but basically just hooked a bud up. That would be the only possible solution if it actually was signed to him by kawi and the same typewriter was used to instantly type another name.
Does it matter, the bike wasn't raced by James "Buba" Stewart.
If he use it as a practice bike, it's not worth $20,000.
If it was his father's bike, it's still not worth $20,000.
Is the last sentence written wrong? I'm guessing you were meaning "it's still NOT worth"
Yes, I agree with you. Although, my main point to even posting about this, is I had said a long time ago, Tim was selling fake bikes. Everyone here threw me under the bus and called me stupid. It was over "Steve Lamsons" bike. I'm just trying to show none of these bikes Tim Taylor has sold is a factory bike. He's not trying to sell it here. He's on Facebook, trying. Those people may not understand how crooked this is, no matter who's bike it was.
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