Gajser pass on Jett

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It must suck to be Tim Gajser. Arguably the fastest rider in the world, makes an amazing pass in the last 2 corners to secure a...

It must suck to be Tim Gajser. Arguably the fastest rider in the world, makes an amazing pass in the last 2 corners to secure a 1-1 at the freaking MXDN, and still doesn't get the respect he deserves!

His 5 world titles might help soften the blow.

Good shout. Twice as many MXGP titles as Herlings and we hear all about how amazing Herlings is. Gajser is probably the most underrated all time great.

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Gasjer timed his pass perfectly.  Late enough that Jett had no time to regather.  Any earlier and Jett would probably have got him back.

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Gasjer timed his pass perfectly.  Late enough that Jett had no time to regather.  Any earlier and Jett would probably have got him back.

Fun game. So if Gajser passed him earlier, then Jett got back around, wouldn't they be in the exact same position as when Gajser made his perfectly timed pass? And then Gajser 'probably would have' made the same pass.

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ando wrote:

Gasjer timed his pass perfectly.  Late enough that Jett had no time to regather.  Any earlier and Jett would probably have got him back.

USA wrote:
Fun game. So if Gajser passed him earlier, then Jett got back around, wouldn't they be in the exact same position as when Gajser made his...

Fun game. So if Gajser passed him earlier, then Jett got back around, wouldn't they be in the exact same position as when Gajser made his perfectly timed pass? And then Gajser 'probably would have' made the same pass.

cope

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10/12/2024 3:28am
USA wrote:
It must suck to be Tim Gajser. Arguably the fastest rider in the world, makes an amazing pass in the last 2 corners to secure a...

It must suck to be Tim Gajser. Arguably the fastest rider in the world, makes an amazing pass in the last 2 corners to secure a 1-1 at the freaking MXDN, and still doesn't get the respect he deserves!

Tim was the man of the day, for sure. Arguably the fastest in the world ? He was leading the world championship by more than 30 points after Italy and still lost it. One very good performance (Tim's best ride of the year and one of the best if not the best of his career) doesn't make you the best in the world.

He is on this list of rider that is consider ONE of the best in the world, with Prado, Herlings, Tomac, Sexton and eventually Febvre and Hunter I would say. But you cannot consider him the best of the bests when you see that the rest of his season (outside of the swiss GP) was far from his MXON performance.

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10/12/2024 4:21am
USA wrote:
It must suck to be Tim Gajser. Arguably the fastest rider in the world, makes an amazing pass in the last 2 corners to secure a...

It must suck to be Tim Gajser. Arguably the fastest rider in the world, makes an amazing pass in the last 2 corners to secure a 1-1 at the freaking MXDN, and still doesn't get the respect he deserves!

Tim was the man of the day, for sure. Arguably the fastest in the world ? He was leading the world championship by more than 30...

Tim was the man of the day, for sure. Arguably the fastest in the world ? He was leading the world championship by more than 30 points after Italy and still lost it. One very good performance (Tim's best ride of the year and one of the best if not the best of his career) doesn't make you the best in the world.

He is on this list of rider that is consider ONE of the best in the world, with Prado, Herlings, Tomac, Sexton and eventually Febvre and Hunter I would say. But you cannot consider him the best of the bests when you see that the rest of his season (outside of the swiss GP) was far from his MXON performance.

Especially a race like the MXdN. Team tactics are employed to win the event. Things like giving up your gate pick. Meanwhile some guys, like Tim, have only thing on their mind. Winning their moto, as their team has no shot at winning. That said, Jett definitely wanted to win that moto. He wasn't holding back like I've seen some said. But the individual winner of the MX1/MX3 race being the FMOTP? The ultimate example is Coldenhoff in '18. Was he the FMOTP after that? 

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ando wrote:

Gasjer timed his pass perfectly.  Late enough that Jett had no time to regather.  Any earlier and Jett would probably have got him back.

USA wrote:
Fun game. So if Gajser passed him earlier, then Jett got back around, wouldn't they be in the exact same position as when Gajser made his...

Fun game. So if Gajser passed him earlier, then Jett got back around, wouldn't they be in the exact same position as when Gajser made his perfectly timed pass? And then Gajser 'probably would have' made the same pass.

They already turned me into a Deegan fan, if they keep it up I'll be a Gasjer fan.

Keep it classy boys.

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10/12/2024 4:52am

On the Title 24 podcast Ricky mentioned that Jett injured his hand leading up to the race.  Not sure to what extent and I don’t think it takes anything away from Tim straight up passing him, but I hadn’t seen that mentioned online and listened to the pod yesterday so..

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10/12/2024 5:23am
teamddr wrote:
Jett made a lot of mistakes on the last two laps for a guy cruising home. Look liked he couldn’t shake him off to me. Give...

Jett made a lot of mistakes on the last two laps for a guy cruising home. Look liked he couldn’t shake him off to me. Give Tim his dues FFS

He also went from 10th at the end of lap 1 to 1st in that race. He didn’t win the race but he was the most...

He also went from 10th at the end of lap 1 to 1st in that race. He didn’t win the race but he was the most impressive in the race to anyone that watched it.

Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past pit straight. 

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10/12/2024 5:26am
USA wrote:
It must suck to be Tim Gajser. Arguably the fastest rider in the world, makes an amazing pass in the last 2 corners to secure a...

It must suck to be Tim Gajser. Arguably the fastest rider in the world, makes an amazing pass in the last 2 corners to secure a 1-1 at the freaking MXDN, and still doesn't get the respect he deserves!

Tim was the man of the day, for sure. Arguably the fastest in the world ? He was leading the world championship by more than 30...

Tim was the man of the day, for sure. Arguably the fastest in the world ? He was leading the world championship by more than 30 points after Italy and still lost it. One very good performance (Tim's best ride of the year and one of the best if not the best of his career) doesn't make you the best in the world.

He is on this list of rider that is consider ONE of the best in the world, with Prado, Herlings, Tomac, Sexton and eventually Febvre and Hunter I would say. But you cannot consider him the best of the bests when you see that the rest of his season (outside of the swiss GP) was far from his MXON performance.

Especially a race like the MXdN. Team tactics are employed to win the event. Things like giving up your gate pick. Meanwhile some guys, like Tim...

Especially a race like the MXdN. Team tactics are employed to win the event. Things like giving up your gate pick. Meanwhile some guys, like Tim, have only thing on their mind. Winning their moto, as their team has no shot at winning. That said, Jett definitely wanted to win that moto. He wasn't holding back like I've seen some said. But the individual winner of the MX1/MX3 race being the FMOTP? The ultimate example is Coldenhoff in '18. Was he the FMOTP after that? 

Correct. It's one race. On that day Tim was the fastest man on the planet, as was Coldenhoff in 18 and 19.

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10/12/2024 7:06am
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Jett made a lot of mistakes on the last two laps for a guy cruising home. Look liked he couldn’t shake him off to me. Give...

Jett made a lot of mistakes on the last two laps for a guy cruising home. Look liked he couldn’t shake him off to me. Give Tim his dues FFS

He also went from 10th at the end of lap 1 to 1st in that race. He didn’t win the race but he was the most...

He also went from 10th at the end of lap 1 to 1st in that race. He didn’t win the race but he was the most impressive in the race to anyone that watched it.

Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past...

Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past pit straight. 

Jett was 11th going into the first corner...

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and 18th going into the second corner...

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10/12/2024 7:20am Edited Date/Time 10/12/2024 7:27am
Jett was 11th going into the first corner...and 18th going into the second corner...

Jett was 11th going into the first corner...

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and 18th going into the second corner...

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People will call fact’s and stats excuses. 

I don’t know when going from 5th to first become more impressive than going from 18th to first just to lose it in the second to last corner and end up second.

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10/12/2024 7:26am
Jett was 11th going into the first corner...and 18th going into the second corner...

Jett was 11th going into the first corner...

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and 18th going into the second corner...

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Tumic wrote:
People will call fact’s and stats excuses. I don’t know when going from 5th to first become more impressive than going from 18th to first just to...

People will call fact’s and stats excuses. 

I don’t know when going from 5th to first become more impressive than going from 18th to first just to lose it in the second to last corner and end up second.

Jett put in an impressive ride, passing most of the fastest riders in the world, but he needs to protect those inside lines the last couple of corners!

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Jett put in an impressive ride, passing most of the fastest riders in the world, but he needs to protect those inside lines the last couple...

Jett put in an impressive ride, passing most of the fastest riders in the world, but he needs to protect those inside lines the last couple of corners!

With the gap he had to Tim at the top part of the track in the Everts/Bubba corner i think that Jett was sure that Tim had let this one go.

But Jett was wrong there and this is why he should start to open up a 5-6 second gap instead of a 2-2.5 second when he is in the lead. 

 

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10/12/2024 7:38am
Jett put in an impressive ride, passing most of the fastest riders in the world, but he needs to protect those inside lines the last couple...

Jett put in an impressive ride, passing most of the fastest riders in the world, but he needs to protect those inside lines the last couple of corners!

Tumic wrote:
With the gap he had to Tim at the top part of the track in the Everts/Bubba corner i think that Jett was sure that Tim...

With the gap he had to Tim at the top part of the track in the Everts/Bubba corner i think that Jett was sure that Tim had let this one go.

But Jett was wrong there and this is why he should start to open up a 5-6 second gap instead of a 2-2.5 second when he is in the lead. 

 

He learns from his mistakes!

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10/12/2024 8:47am
He also went from 10th at the end of lap 1 to 1st in that race. He didn’t win the race but he was the most...

He also went from 10th at the end of lap 1 to 1st in that race. He didn’t win the race but he was the most impressive in the race to anyone that watched it.

Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past...

Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past pit straight. 

Jett was 11th going into the first corner...and 18th going into the second corner...

Jett was 11th going into the first corner...

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and 18th going into the second corner...

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You said at end of first lap, not in second corner. Big difference. 

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10/12/2024 11:56am

Jett and all of us never expected that line or pass to happen.

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10/12/2024 5:02pm
Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past...

Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past pit straight. 

Jett was 11th going into the first corner...and 18th going into the second corner...

Jett was 11th going into the first corner...

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and 18th going into the second corner...

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You said at end of first lap, not in second corner. Big difference. 

I said no such thing!

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Jett put in an impressive ride, passing most of the fastest riders in the world, but he needs to protect those inside lines the last couple...

Jett put in an impressive ride, passing most of the fastest riders in the world, but he needs to protect those inside lines the last couple of corners!

Tumic wrote:
With the gap he had to Tim at the top part of the track in the Everts/Bubba corner i think that Jett was sure that Tim...

With the gap he had to Tim at the top part of the track in the Everts/Bubba corner i think that Jett was sure that Tim had let this one go.

But Jett was wrong there and this is why he should start to open up a 5-6 second gap instead of a 2-2.5 second when he is in the lead. 

 

Yep agree about the bigger gap.

He's been asked about it (maintaining a small gap) and he says it keeps him focused.  Don't know whether to take that with a grain of salt or not.

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He also went from 10th at the end of lap 1 to 1st in that race. He didn’t win the race but he was the most...

He also went from 10th at the end of lap 1 to 1st in that race. He didn’t win the race but he was the most impressive in the race to anyone that watched it.

Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past...

Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past pit straight. 

Jett was 11th going into the first corner...and 18th going into the second corner...

Jett was 11th going into the first corner...

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and 18th going into the second corner...

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Guess the down voters can't count past 10.

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10/12/2024 10:28pm
Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past...

Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past pit straight. 

Jett was 11th going into the first corner...and 18th going into the second corner...

Jett was 11th going into the first corner...

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and 18th going into the second corner...

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gerg wrote:

Guess the down voters can't count past 10.

They run out of fingers!

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10/13/2024 1:16am

Moto fan: how about that awesome last corner pass? 

Jett fans: YEAH WELL JETT PASSED A BUNCH OF PEOPLES TOO YOU KNOW 😡😡😡 

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Moto fan: how about that awesome last corner pass? 

Jett fans: YEAH WELL JETT PASSED A BUNCH OF PEOPLES TOO YOU KNOW 😡😡😡 

It's strange behavior.

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10/13/2024 4:07am

Perfectly acceptable considering the stakes and timing

Exactly. 

I guarantee you that both guys have moved on,  not obsessing over it.

It'll be fuel for the fire next year, perhaps. 

But no, not here. 

It'll be hashed, rehashed, and beaten into the ground over, and over again.

It'll be what carries most here through the winter.

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10/13/2024 7:19am
Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past...

Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past pit straight. 

Might wanna check the tape.

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10/13/2024 11:33am
Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past...

Jett was never 10th. You can see the lap charts on mxgp.com. he was 6th at the end of lap 1...same as his position going past pit straight. 

Crush wrote:

Might wanna check the tape.

Just did. When Jett was 10th Gajser was 6th. Wow. Huuuuge advantage for Tim. 

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10/13/2024 12:31pm

I rewatched the last 2 laps of this race and I’m shocked that nobody else noticed that Tim stalked Jett masterfully and toyed with him mentally. Those last 2 laps were controlled by Tim and Jett started flailing. Tim was able to back off quite a bit and then pull right back up on the rear wheel—Tim did this over and over again and Jett began to lose his nerve. Tim had that race won earlier than when he booted Jett outta the way.

Also, anyone else notice that RC and RV were acting like salty Jett homers on Title 24 and didn’t give TG nearly enough credit for embarrassing their boy?

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I rewatched the last 2 laps of this race and I’m shocked that nobody else noticed that Tim stalked Jett masterfully and toyed with him mentally...

I rewatched the last 2 laps of this race and I’m shocked that nobody else noticed that Tim stalked Jett masterfully and toyed with him mentally. Those last 2 laps were controlled by Tim and Jett started flailing. Tim was able to back off quite a bit and then pull right back up on the rear wheel—Tim did this over and over again and Jett began to lose his nerve. Tim had that race won earlier than when he booted Jett outta the way.

Also, anyone else notice that RC and RV were acting like salty Jett homers on Title 24 and didn’t give TG nearly enough credit for embarrassing their boy?

I must of watched a different race than you.

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10/13/2024 2:28pm

what is wild is we can count the amount of riders to pass Jett on 1 hand. Not bad for a rider in his 2nd year of the 450 class. 

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10/13/2024 2:54pm Edited Date/Time 10/13/2024 2:55pm

Just did. When Jett was 10th Gajser was 6th. Wow. Huuuuge advantage for Tim. 

Bro. Just count how many riders are in front of Jett here.


 

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