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Just an observation from Texas. This is an instance when the AMA needs to take their rule book and insert it into their shredder. This is perfect example of where the riders should be allowed to receive an IV between motos. This in my opinion would do two things, first it would keep the riders much more safe and give the fans what they paid to see. It is not physically possible to keep hydrated properly in those conditions. The FIM allows for this yet the AMA does not and that is a flaw. I have always found this rule ridiculous and have never understood it, and I have seen other events where it is needed. In fact just go back one year ago to the Texas national. Back in the day it was often the Troy Ohio race at Kenworthy’s that needed the exception.
The other thing I find interesting is the idiots on here ripping on riders for their lack of fitness and cardio. Most of you are fools and truly do not understand the way a body works. You need to realize that some riders individual natural makeup limits their bodies to certain restrictions. The top guys are fit and train their asses off, however some have the natural ability to go further than others. This doesn’t mean they are out of shape or do not do their work, it means that their natural genetic makeup allows for only so much. In extreme circumstances most of you need to sit back and just applaud the riders for making it through an extremely difficult race, because most humans in this world could not operate at a high level in such extreme conditions.
Back to my point, the AMA needs to take a serious look at this rule and change it.
The other thing I find interesting is the idiots on here ripping on riders for their lack of fitness and cardio. Most of you are fools and truly do not understand the way a body works. You need to realize that some riders individual natural makeup limits their bodies to certain restrictions. The top guys are fit and train their asses off, however some have the natural ability to go further than others. This doesn’t mean they are out of shape or do not do their work, it means that their natural genetic makeup allows for only so much. In extreme circumstances most of you need to sit back and just applaud the riders for making it through an extremely difficult race, because most humans in this world could not operate at a high level in such extreme conditions.
Back to my point, the AMA needs to take a serious look at this rule and change it.
my genetic makeup sticks me in the B class eternally...... should i be allowed a 3 lap head start and run pro class??
I seem to remember the riders cutting holes on there jerseys, mechs spraying water on the riders as they raced by, etc. The riders with the ability to deal with the heat better, rose to the top in that particular race. Now, when the circus goes up to Mt Morris(is it next?)PA, the competition should be leveled. I expect with the temps relatively mild, the racing to be very competitve, with extreme temps taken out of the equation.
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That and IV rehydration is itself not without peril in an unmonitored layman's situation.
Hannah had to leave to go to the hospital with heat masturbation after the first moto, and said that all that told him was that he had to get in shape to run with the big dogs.
That's the way it was, and the way it should be.
On another front regarding Texas, is that the best they can do for an outdoor mx track?
People rip on Kenworthy's as being a poor excuse for an outdoor track, but that Texas track looks the same to me (without the standing water, of course
That would be a good idea right? I'm the first one to think of this right? RIGHT?
Indy: start a new thread to talk about the track issue. This certainly isn't the best we have to offer in TX but it's the one that was willing to jump through the hoops (tentacles?) necessary to host a national.
and flarider: most likely yes.
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But you can't compare a 40 minute moto back then to what they run now. I don't think it can be argued that the guys are in much better shape now than they used to be. Training technology and supplementation has come too far.
But comparing a 40 minute moto on the tracks back then to what they do now, not a fair comparison at all.
But bottom line is, a guy has to want it. They have to be able to continue pushing their body beyond the point where it wants to shut down. All the training in the world can go out the window if everything else isn't working right.
Everybody was working out of box-vans and there was close to no privacy.
I remember seing a photo of Doug with his mobile IV or something.
Some people argued to the AMA that such scene was giving a questionnable image of the sport.
Mitch - Doug was competing against his guys - Ryno I guess?- was going : "if it's an advantage, then how about every rider hanging in the pits between motos with a needle planted in the arm... Pretty cool vision, eh ??"
The AMA thought he was right and nobody, even Doug, was gonna be allowed to use IV's.
On a case like Texas, conditions were extreme and if it was another sport, athletes would have been getting IV's in the privacy of the semi's or RV's (and some probably did get IV's at Freestone, how do you control that ?).
It would probably be wise to seek medical opinions about it and go with what doctors say rather than having concerns about the "image" of the sport.
If IV's are legal in Olympic sports medical rules and beneficial to the athlete's health, it should be OK for MX.
The specific effort of MX in an extreme heat may require it for those guys' bodies to stay safe.
Doctors should know.
If they say it's preferable, just rule it can't be done in a public. Seems like it should be supervised by a doctor or nurse, right ? Would have a definite impact on the paddock's routine operations and still sounds kind of weird...
Could be completely wrong though.
Of course, then you get into who administers it? Qualified to be sticking needles in peoples arms? etc, etc. I dunno...a lot to think about there. Probably could be done though with reaonable people involved. But therein lies the problem...
I'm not sure how to feel about this, seems to me, if all the riders are on gurneys with an IV drip between motos, something went horribly wrong.
Some of the guys admitted they had to back it down a notch as the heat got to them, isn't that really the sensible thing to do? Yeah, you wanna win, but there are always limitations to what you can and cannot do, in a race.
And yes those who can afford it, or don't have a problem with breaking the rules are re-hydrating between motos.
If riders are comfortable sticking themselves between motos for hydration who knows what they could be shooting up during the week. It's a slippery slope in my opinion.
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