Jett VS. Jorge

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Motofinne 9/30/2024 11:41pm
9/30/2024 11:41pm Edited Date/Time 9/30/2024 11:54pm
Boomslang wrote:

Jett gonna own Prado both indoors and outdoors..simple as that!

Press516 wrote:
In year 1, Prado will just be happy to top 10 in SX.  Outdoors, I think he'll be in the Hunter, Sexton and probably Tomac mix...

In year 1, Prado will just be happy to top 10 in SX.  Outdoors, I think he'll be in the Hunter, Sexton and probably Tomac mix.  Although I see everyone closing the gap a little to Jett, he's still going to be the class of the field.

I disagree, he wont be content to be a top 10 rider. Anyone that knows how incredibly confident (borderline cocky) Prado is knows that he will aim for the top 5 from the get go.

Prado was 10th in the standings when he exited the series after 4 rounds this year with very, very limited prep and no risk taking. With that in mind, he will aim for more than just a top 10 guy in his first season.

With that said, i think top 10 in the first year is good and the aim should be just getting through 17 rounds and i don't think it's realistic to aim for something close to 5th in the standings. But i'm pretty sure that Prado wont think like that.

 

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deanwhite51 10/1/2024 4:18pm
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Hunter vs Prado vs Sexton.. 

 

Its Jett vs Jett for 2025

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Chris_Buehler 10/1/2024 4:26pm
10/1/2024 4:26pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:

"Jett isn't even one of the winniest riders of all time."

No, really? He's just beginning. 🙄

* winningest 

971_Fan wrote:
I was spelling with an Aussie accent.  Jorge hasn't even begun yet in the States, and already has 4 World Titles so he's no slouch.  And...

I was spelling with an Aussie accent.  Jorge hasn't even begun yet in the States, and already has 4 World Titles so he's no slouch.  And hopefully, he makes you Jett fans eat your words 😉 

 

Jett is awesome, and will probably break records, but his fans are in another category altogether. 

 

Says the guy with hundreds of Deegan posts. Self aware much?

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Chris_Buehler 10/1/2024 4:30pm
10/1/2024 4:30pm
Spoonguy wrote:

Prado top 15 in SX, top 5 outdoors a few moto wins, maybe an overall. He can't beat Jett, not yet anyway.

Dan-The-Man wrote:

If Prado stays healthy I think he will finish top 5 in points in SX. 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

IMO, tall ask. 

Jett, Hunter, Tomac, Sexton, Webb, Roczen, Anderson, JCoop, Barcia, Stewart. 

X2. No 250 regional experience to get the growing pains worked out. Who's he pushing out of the top 5? I don't see it

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kxking 10/2/2024 4:26am
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I always laugh at these type of threads, so-and-so is getting better, more comfortable on the bike, catching Jett. Everyone is out there getting better but Jett, you know cause he's not out there practicing everyday, learning his new bike, honing his skills, and being pushed by Hunter. 

It would be really cool to see him just jet off from everyone and let them know he can win by managing a 2-5 second gap, or opening up a can and winning by 1-2 minuets. Just to remind them who has won every series he has finished in the last 3 years....

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motomike137 10/2/2024 8:03pm
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I'll wait to see what transpires next summer, but I have a hunch Wink

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drok577 10/5/2024 10:48am
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I can't wait. Its going to be amazing. Prado is so smooth, looks like barely trying and just pulling away from everybody. Jett did the same thing in MX3. Going to be fun!

Thisusernameisavailable 10/5/2024 10:55am
10/5/2024 10:55am
aees wrote:
Prado was testing settings for 2024 season at de nations. He said he had more in him if he would have ran his usual setup. I think...

Prado was testing settings for 2024 season at de nations. He said he had more in him if he would have ran his usual setup. 

I think the bigger issue will be the Kawi team spirit. Prado is used to getting a bike tailored to him. Now he has to deal with not having a true factory bike, plus the one team that uses "it's this way or the highway". 

karsmakers wrote:
So a Kawasaki isn't a factory bike?> This kid is immensely talented and in my opinion will finish somewhere between 5-8 in supercross and top 3...

So a Kawasaki isn't a factory bike?> This kid is immensely talented and in my opinion will finish somewhere between 5-8 in supercross and top 3 in motocross. It won't take him a year to "learn the tracks".Under that logic the US  MXON should never win a moto on these foreign tracks. The top MX riders can win anywhere on a given day and particularly when your the best starter in the business. Don't underestimate a multi time MXGP champion in the prime of his career

aees wrote:
Not compared to MXGP. They run different frames, sub frames, swingarm, can modify or change engine blocks. Herlings run different frame or subframe for different tracks. MXGP...

Not compared to MXGP. They run different frames, sub frames, swingarm, can modify or change engine blocks. Herlings run different frame or subframe for different tracks. 

MXGP is full factory bikes, Japan also I belive. AMA is not full factory. 

What is this guy on??

If the manufacturer themselves supply it and/or field it, it’s a factory bike. 

If they choose to use stock triple clamps, it’s still a factory bike. 

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Dan-The-Man 10/5/2024 11:04am
10/5/2024 11:04am
karsmakers wrote:
So a Kawasaki isn't a factory bike?> This kid is immensely talented and in my opinion will finish somewhere between 5-8 in supercross and top 3...

So a Kawasaki isn't a factory bike?> This kid is immensely talented and in my opinion will finish somewhere between 5-8 in supercross and top 3 in motocross. It won't take him a year to "learn the tracks".Under that logic the US  MXON should never win a moto on these foreign tracks. The top MX riders can win anywhere on a given day and particularly when your the best starter in the business. Don't underestimate a multi time MXGP champion in the prime of his career

aees wrote:
Not compared to MXGP. They run different frames, sub frames, swingarm, can modify or change engine blocks. Herlings run different frame or subframe for different tracks. MXGP...

Not compared to MXGP. They run different frames, sub frames, swingarm, can modify or change engine blocks. Herlings run different frame or subframe for different tracks. 

MXGP is full factory bikes, Japan also I belive. AMA is not full factory. 

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
What is this guy on??If the manufacturer themselves supply it and/or field it, it’s a factory bike. If they choose to use stock triple clamps, it’s still...

What is this guy on??

If the manufacturer themselves supply it and/or field it, it’s a factory bike. 

If they choose to use stock triple clamps, it’s still a factory bike. 

What he really means is the US doesn't have works bikes anymore. Our bikes in the US are governed by the production rule. 

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jjavaman 10/5/2024 11:09am
10/5/2024 11:09am

 Is prado still going to be a Red Bull athlete when he’s riding for Monster Kawi?

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-MAVERICK- 10/5/2024 11:42am
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jjavaman wrote:

 Is prado still going to be a Red Bull athlete when he’s riding for Monster Kawi?

Now a Monster athlete. 

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Muscle-Milk-KTM 10/5/2024 11:59am
10/5/2024 11:59am
jjavaman wrote:

 Is prado still going to be a Red Bull athlete when he’s riding for Monster Kawi?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Now a Monster athlete. 

Just because he rides for a Red Bull sponsored team doesn’t mean he’s a Red Bull athlete. 

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aees 10/5/2024 12:15pm
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karsmakers wrote:
So a Kawasaki isn't a factory bike?> This kid is immensely talented and in my opinion will finish somewhere between 5-8 in supercross and top 3...

So a Kawasaki isn't a factory bike?> This kid is immensely talented and in my opinion will finish somewhere between 5-8 in supercross and top 3 in motocross. It won't take him a year to "learn the tracks".Under that logic the US  MXON should never win a moto on these foreign tracks. The top MX riders can win anywhere on a given day and particularly when your the best starter in the business. Don't underestimate a multi time MXGP champion in the prime of his career

aees wrote:
Not compared to MXGP. They run different frames, sub frames, swingarm, can modify or change engine blocks. Herlings run different frame or subframe for different tracks. MXGP...

Not compared to MXGP. They run different frames, sub frames, swingarm, can modify or change engine blocks. Herlings run different frame or subframe for different tracks. 

MXGP is full factory bikes, Japan also I belive. AMA is not full factory. 

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
What is this guy on??If the manufacturer themselves supply it and/or field it, it’s a factory bike. If they choose to use stock triple clamps, it’s still...

What is this guy on??

If the manufacturer themselves supply it and/or field it, it’s a factory bike. 

If they choose to use stock triple clamps, it’s still a factory bike. 

Im not saying it's not a factory bike, did I? 

COMPARING (missed that?) them two, there is just way more factory in MXGP, due to the rules. Just the fact that they run different frames and sub frames between tracks, puts it on a different level. 

If you build a bike yourself, you can come very very close to ama bike. Mxgp, miles away. 

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ando 10/5/2024 1:56pm
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aees wrote:
Not compared to MXGP. They run different frames, sub frames, swingarm, can modify or change engine blocks. Herlings run different frame or subframe for different tracks. MXGP...

Not compared to MXGP. They run different frames, sub frames, swingarm, can modify or change engine blocks. Herlings run different frame or subframe for different tracks. 

MXGP is full factory bikes, Japan also I belive. AMA is not full factory. 

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
What is this guy on??If the manufacturer themselves supply it and/or field it, it’s a factory bike. If they choose to use stock triple clamps, it’s still...

What is this guy on??

If the manufacturer themselves supply it and/or field it, it’s a factory bike. 

If they choose to use stock triple clamps, it’s still a factory bike. 

aees wrote:
Im not saying it's not a factory bike, did I? COMPARING (missed that?) them two, there is just way more factory in MXGP, due to the rules...

Im not saying it's not a factory bike, did I? 

COMPARING (missed that?) them two, there is just way more factory in MXGP, due to the rules. Just the fact that they run different frames and sub frames between tracks, puts it on a different level. 

If you build a bike yourself, you can come very very close to ama bike. Mxgp, miles away. 

The GP bikes are not the full works bikes they used to be years ago.  Yes they are fairly unrestricted with rules but many of them are more or less pre-production bikes for the upcoming production models.

In any case I don’t think there’s any evidence that AMA riders have been handicapped by riding their bikes vs GP bikes at MXoN.

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Rotaholic 10/5/2024 2:05pm
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Roczen won last year on a Suzuki, let that sink in lol

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Thisusernameisavailable 10/5/2024 2:11pm
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aees wrote:
Im not saying it's not a factory bike, did I? COMPARING (missed that?) them two, there is just way more factory in MXGP, due to the rules...

Im not saying it's not a factory bike, did I? 

COMPARING (missed that?) them two, there is just way more factory in MXGP, due to the rules. Just the fact that they run different frames and sub frames between tracks, puts it on a different level. 

If you build a bike yourself, you can come very very close to ama bike. Mxgp, miles away. 

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aees 10/5/2024 2:24pm
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aees wrote:
Im not saying it's not a factory bike, did I? COMPARING (missed that?) them two, there is just way more factory in MXGP, due to the rules...

Im not saying it's not a factory bike, did I? 

COMPARING (missed that?) them two, there is just way more factory in MXGP, due to the rules. Just the fact that they run different frames and sub frames between tracks, puts it on a different level. 

If you build a bike yourself, you can come very very close to ama bike. Mxgp, miles away. 

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Yes, for me MXGP bikes or other parts of the world where applicable, is a true original factory bike. If someone is running a stock bike under a factory team, that ain't a factory bike. Fill up a bike with KTM powerparts, still ain't a factory bike. 

The other ones are semi factory, if you compare them. 

Factory means it uses a lot things you can't get yourself. 

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Muscle-Milk-KTM 10/6/2024 2:08am
10/6/2024 2:08am
Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:

Just because he rides for a Red Bull sponsored team doesn’t mean he’s a Red Bull athlete. 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Except he is a RedBull athlete. 

https://www.redbull.com/ca-en/athletes?filter.disciplineId=rrn:content:…

You'll see Barcia isn't listed. 

No Lucas Coenen? Pretty sure he wears a Red Bull helmet. 

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