Jett on Hymas 250 mxDn

Sounds like a good scheme to me

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9/19/2024 12:44am

But why? 

He is team Australia on 450.......

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9/19/2024 1:52am Edited Date/Time 9/19/2024 2:02am
wicksy85 wrote:

But why? 

He is team Australia on 450.......

Because the combo of Jette on a 250 and Webster on a 450 would get better moto results than  the other way Around 

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Jett never went 22-0 on a 250…. His outdoor results took a mega level up while riding 450s.  

 

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9/19/2024 7:14am
cameron96 wrote:

Jett never went 22-0 on a 250…. His outdoor results took a mega level up while riding 450s.  

 

So, Tomac, Roczen and Webb were all there in 2023 MX?

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9/19/2024 3:33pm
cameron96 wrote:

Jett never went 22-0 on a 250…. His outdoor results took a mega level up while riding 450s.  

 

HonDawg17 wrote:

So, Tomac, Roczen and Webb were all there in 2023 MX?

Webb? Webb is an indoor beast and one of the mental giants of the sport, but NOBODY has ever been worried about Webb on a 450 outdoors 😂

Especially Webb....

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9/19/2024 3:38pm Edited Date/Time 9/19/2024 3:39pm
cameron96 wrote:

Jett never went 22-0 on a 250…. His outdoor results took a mega level up while riding 450s.  

 

HonDawg17 wrote:

So, Tomac, Roczen and Webb were all there in 2023 MX?

Webb has won one race in his entire 450 career lol

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cameron96 wrote:

Jett never went 22-0 on a 250…. His outdoor results took a mega level up while riding 450s.  

 

HonDawg17 wrote:

So, Tomac, Roczen and Webb were all there in 2023 MX?

u just be trolling for no reason 🤦🏾‍♂️

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I think Hunter on the 250 is a better idea.  But I firmly believe leaving Webster on the 250 is not the best strategy and the Aussie's are going to be disappointed that that's what they stuck with.

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9/19/2024 4:07pm Edited Date/Time 9/19/2024 4:08pm
Press516 wrote:
I think Hunter on the 250 is a better idea.  But I firmly believe leaving Webster on the 250 is not the best strategy and the...

I think Hunter on the 250 is a better idea.  But I firmly believe leaving Webster on the 250 is not the best strategy and the Aussie's are going to be disappointed that that's what they stuck with.

Agree you can’t put Jett on a 250, he’s the best 450 rider likely on the planet and was never as good on a 250. I don’t know enough about Webster but he mixed it up on the 450 over here. Not sure he can top ten on a 450 at nations though. 

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aussie team will always have this issue. First it was Reed and Byrner. Metcalf, sharky, Moss.

we have always had 2 decent riders. its a 3rd 250 we struggle with. and the issue is our younger riders coming through dont get enough spotlight or chances to develop overseas. By the time they get the opportunity they are ready to be on a 450. so we end up with 3 450 guys and no 250 rider.

 

Personally.. I believe we send Kayden Miner on the 250, and keep sending him while he is young. keep building give him some time at the Lawrence compound for a few weeks prior and each year we have a consistent team that is only going to get better and hope he can develop and give us a chance at more podiums in the future. 

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Press516 wrote:
I think Hunter on the 250 is a better idea.  But I firmly believe leaving Webster on the 250 is not the best strategy and the...

I think Hunter on the 250 is a better idea.  But I firmly believe leaving Webster on the 250 is not the best strategy and the Aussie's are going to be disappointed that that's what they stuck with.

Hunter still struggle more with passes than Jett so on a 250 at Des Nations Jett would still be a greater asset

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9/20/2024 12:47am
aussie team will always have this issue. First it was Reed and Byrner. Metcalf, sharky, Moss.we have always had 2 decent riders. its a 3rd 250...

aussie team will always have this issue. First it was Reed and Byrner. Metcalf, sharky, Moss.

we have always had 2 decent riders. its a 3rd 250 we struggle with. and the issue is our younger riders coming through dont get enough spotlight or chances to develop overseas. By the time they get the opportunity they are ready to be on a 450. so we end up with 3 450 guys and no 250 rider.

 

Personally.. I believe we send Kayden Miner on the 250, and keep sending him while he is young. keep building give him some time at the Lawrence compound for a few weeks prior and each year we have a consistent team that is only going to get better and hope he can develop and give us a chance at more podiums in the future. 

MX2 MXON seat turns into a career development pathway.

Man, talk about a lotto ticket.

 

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I’ll admit I’ve questioned the choice of Webster as the Aussie MX2 rider too, but the guys who pick our team know what they’re doing, there’s no game playing from what I can see. 
We can only hope Webster has been on the 250 and impressed. There’s no doubt there’s been plenty going on behind the scenes that most are not privy to, because they’ve been working on putting this team together for awhile. 
Unlike those that shall go unnamed, who act like MXdN is sprung on them without notice each year and seem to have no plan.

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9/20/2024 2:21am

Webster has been in Florida for the past 4 weeks riding a 250 while the Lawrence bros have been rehabbing a thumb injury and focusing on 450 championships. As CPR mentioned above, they’re coming into MXdN very prepared. 

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The MX3 class is relatively weak this year; it appears everyone threw their best 450 riders into MXGP.  If Webster can replicate his form at Redbud and Southwick he’s a chance of a top ten finish in the MX2/MX3 race.  That’s all we need.

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9/20/2024 3:04am Edited Date/Time 9/20/2024 3:06am
Press516 wrote:
I think Hunter on the 250 is a better idea.  But I firmly believe leaving Webster on the 250 is not the best strategy and the...

I think Hunter on the 250 is a better idea.  But I firmly believe leaving Webster on the 250 is not the best strategy and the Aussie's are going to be disappointed that that's what they stuck with.

Has anyone ever used this strategy and had it work?  I see this logic come up often at MXoN time but is there any evidence of it being successful?

We need one good moto out of Webster regardless.  You’ve got to figure Jett is probably expecting 1-2 moto scores and Hunter probably 2-5, so that’s 10 points with one moto from Webster.

I just don’t see how sacrificing those top moto scores from the Lawrences is sound strategy.

EDIT - maybe if your goal is a safe podium spot then swapping riders might work, but this Aussie team is gunning for the top step.

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Webster got great starts over here in his AMA venture…. But went backwards from there.  On a 250 with 20 450’s on the line the start will be much more difficult.  

And a Renaux, Lawrence, Geerts, Plessinger, Coldenhoff, Vialle, Adamo, Langenfelder, Coenen, Webb, Anstie, McClellan, DeWolf, Haarup moto doesn’t seem like an easy moto to me…

But we actually drop the gate and race, because this bench racing means nothing.

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Press516 wrote:
Webster got great starts over here in his AMA venture…. But went backwards from there.  On a 250 with 20 450’s on the line the start...

Webster got great starts over here in his AMA venture…. But went backwards from there.  On a 250 with 20 450’s on the line the start will be much more difficult.  

And a Renaux, Lawrence, Geerts, Plessinger, Coldenhoff, Vialle, Adamo, Langenfelder, Coenen, Webb, Anstie, McClellan, DeWolf, Haarup moto doesn’t seem like an easy moto to me…

But we actually drop the gate and race, because this bench racing means nothing.

Yeah it won’t be easy and he is our weak link but you just need one good moto…

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9/20/2024 6:19am

Isn't there a aussie forum or facebook page you can take this to? 

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Press516 wrote:
Webster got great starts over here in his AMA venture…. But went backwards from there.  On a 250 with 20 450’s on the line the start...

Webster got great starts over here in his AMA venture…. But went backwards from there.  On a 250 with 20 450’s on the line the start will be much more difficult.  

And a Renaux, Lawrence, Geerts, Plessinger, Coldenhoff, Vialle, Adamo, Langenfelder, Coenen, Webb, Anstie, McClellan, DeWolf, Haarup moto doesn’t seem like an easy moto to me…

But we actually drop the gate and race, because this bench racing means nothing.

ando wrote:

Yeah it won’t be easy and he is our weak link but you just need one good moto…

One good moto from your weakest guy is kind of the secret to a great MXoN result.  Yes, he could do it....  I do think 4 teams are in it for the win.

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9/20/2024 6:56am
Press516 wrote:
Webster got great starts over here in his AMA venture…. But went backwards from there.  On a 250 with 20 450’s on the line the start...

Webster got great starts over here in his AMA venture…. But went backwards from there.  On a 250 with 20 450’s on the line the start will be much more difficult.  

And a Renaux, Lawrence, Geerts, Plessinger, Coldenhoff, Vialle, Adamo, Langenfelder, Coenen, Webb, Anstie, McClellan, DeWolf, Haarup moto doesn’t seem like an easy moto to me…

But we actually drop the gate and race, because this bench racing means nothing.

ando wrote:

Yeah it won’t be easy and he is our weak link but you just need one good moto…

Press516 wrote:
One good moto from your weakest guy is kind of the secret to a great MXoN result.  Yes, he could do it....  I do think 4...

One good moto from your weakest guy is kind of the secret to a great MXoN result.  Yes, he could do it....  I do think 4 teams are in it for the win.

Agreed.  

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9/20/2024 8:20am
Spike33 wrote:

Isn't there a aussie forum or facebook page you can take this to? 

Why would I do that? This is a moto forum where we talk moto. Not an AMA moto forum. Your head is up your ass

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9/20/2024 9:39am
Press516 wrote:
Webster got great starts over here in his AMA venture…. But went backwards from there.  On a 250 with 20 450’s on the line the start...

Webster got great starts over here in his AMA venture…. But went backwards from there.  On a 250 with 20 450’s on the line the start will be much more difficult.  

And a Renaux, Lawrence, Geerts, Plessinger, Coldenhoff, Vialle, Adamo, Langenfelder, Coenen, Webb, Anstie, McClellan, DeWolf, Haarup moto doesn’t seem like an easy moto to me…

But we actually drop the gate and race, because this bench racing means nothing.

ando wrote:

Yeah it won’t be easy and he is our weak link but you just need one good moto…

Press516 wrote:
One good moto from your weakest guy is kind of the secret to a great MXoN result.  Yes, he could do it....  I do think 4...

One good moto from your weakest guy is kind of the secret to a great MXoN result.  Yes, he could do it....  I do think 4 teams are in it for the win.

Not exactly. You need 5 good results in total. We have seen time and time again that the best guy doesnt always perform. No matter what your team is, you need 5 good results. You cant go into the second MX2/MX3 race saying "man the 250 guy did his part and put it in the top 10 one time." You have to go to each moto and perform. Thats what makes the French so hard to beat right now. All of their guys perform each moto. If you have a guy like Webster that you believe should be right around the top 10, he needs to do it 2x because you never know if Jett or Hunter have a crash and now you need both of Websters scores.

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9/20/2024 5:04pm
Spike33 wrote:

Isn't there a aussie forum or facebook page you can take this to? 

I hope this doesn’t cause you any anxiety, but if you look over your backyard fence, there’s a whole wide world out there.

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9/20/2024 5:22pm
Spike33 wrote:

Isn't there a aussie forum or facebook page you can take this to? 

Us Aussies have been watching the American circuit since it's inception a lot of us root for Americans naturally, have some respect.

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