Haiden Deegan Out of MXoN Selection Process

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yak651 9/1/2024 5:19pm
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The guy is a pure cunt who tries to give the impression that he is the fastest 250 racer in the world. On paper. deWolf and...

The guy is a pure cunt who tries to give the impression that he is the fastest 250 racer in the world. On paper. deWolf and Coenen would literally run over him. Pussy

Prove me wrong

What more I can say,

For the second year in a row, the guy is afraid to compete with  Euros

 

971_Fan wrote:
There is no need to prove you wrong since your claims are empty.  You claimed that Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen would literally run...

There is no need to prove you wrong since your claims are empty.  You claimed that Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen would literally run over Deegan. But they have never raced each other so how do you know Deegan would lose?

What's interesting with a lot of you Euro's (and Australian's since they seem to target Deegan as well) is that if Haiden raced the 2025 MXoN in America and won, you would say it was because he had hometown advantage.  Yet if Haiden goes to Europe and loses, you would say it's because he is slower. That's called hypocrisy. 

We’ll never know because he’s afraid to race outside the US

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dhp_mma94 9/1/2024 5:34pm
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while yal still on this , brodie preparing to defend tht SMX title of his not caring wht yal think bout this anymore

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dog_lover_136 9/1/2024 5:55pm
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dhp_mma94 wrote:

while yal still on this , brodie preparing to defend tht SMX title of his not caring wht yal think bout this anymore

He’s focused on smx and that west coast title, he wants to race west because if he went to nations, he would have gone east.

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Last2Stroke 9/1/2024 5:57pm
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while yal still on this , brodie preparing to defend tht SMX title of his not caring wht yal think bout this anymore

Don't you mean he's preparing to defend his SMX 250 World Championship Title!

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dhp_mma94 9/1/2024 6:08pm
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dhp_mma94 wrote:

while yal still on this , brodie preparing to defend tht SMX title of his not caring wht yal think bout this anymore

dog_lover_136 wrote:

He’s focused on smx and that west coast title, he wants to race west because if he went to nations, he would have gone east.

as they should , the hell ima send u across country for when we got shit to take care of for 2025 & u only won 1 major title this yr when we paying u to win both titles , I need a return on my investment by u being health to sweep both major titles 😂 thts how I be looking at this 

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dhp_mma94 9/1/2024 6:10pm
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while yal still on this , brodie preparing to defend tht SMX title of his not caring wht yal think bout this anymore

Last2Stroke wrote:
Don't you mean he's preparing to defend his SMX 250 World Championship Title!

Don't you mean he's preparing to defend his SMX 250 World Championship Title!

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ayyyy u got me literally lol’ing with tht 1 , woke my girl up 😭 

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keinz 9/2/2024 8:36am
9/2/2024 8:36am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2024 8:41am
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I'm sick and tired of the talk that you don't get paid to compete. Last year, for example, the Estonian Motorcycle Federation spent 60 thousand dollars...

I'm sick and tired of the talk that you don't get paid to compete. Last year, for example, the Estonian Motorcycle Federation spent 60 thousand dollars to send a team to compete, and racers did not receive a penny of it. It's all about country's pride And then the US champions who are multi millionaires come whining about not being paid for it.
Honestly wipe your fake patriotism i don't no with what.

Where is your pride patriots?

Yeah, I know. It's nice to be a big fish in the small pond, and get paid for it, but where is your patriotism and pride dude?

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Haven't you heard, Deegan is the current 250 World Champion!

Haven't you heard, Deegan is the current 250 World Champion!

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Haven't you heard that the Estonians have never lost  at the World Kiiking Championship

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keinz wrote:
The guy is a pure cunt who tries to give the impression that he is the fastest 250 racer in the world. On paper. deWolf and...

The guy is a pure cunt who tries to give the impression that he is the fastest 250 racer in the world. On paper. deWolf and Coenen would literally run over him. Pussy

Prove me wrong

What more I can say,

For the second year in a row, the guy is afraid to compete with  Euros

 

971_Fan wrote:
There is no need to prove you wrong since your claims are empty.  You claimed that Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen would literally run...

There is no need to prove you wrong since your claims are empty.  You claimed that Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen would literally run over Deegan. But they have never raced each other so how do you know Deegan would lose?

What's interesting with a lot of you Euro's (and Australian's since they seem to target Deegan as well) is that if Haiden raced the 2025 MXoN in America and won, you would say it was because he had hometown advantage.  Yet if Haiden goes to Europe and loses, you would say it's because he is slower. That's called hypocrisy. 

yak651 wrote:

We’ll never know because he’s afraid to race outside the US

That’s right.  Also…One thing I do know….Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen won’t run and hide with everyone, like team and mechanic, trying to provide them cover and excuses.  They will be here, at Ironman, racing for their countries …even at the slight disadvantage of being on one of our tracks….like we usually are at theirs.  

Everyone wonders why Star doesn’t support MXDN the last 2 years.  They would…if they had a rider able, selected, and willing to go.  They just haven’t had that.  So they will do the smart thing for the team and talk about money and health of rider.  None of which you would have ever heard about had their rider said yes.  …and I’m not talking about Eli who was hurt last year and felt AP earned that spot this year.  Otherwise he would go in a heartbeat and Star would be right there.

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971_Fan wrote:
There is no need to prove you wrong since your claims are empty.  You claimed that Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen would literally run...

There is no need to prove you wrong since your claims are empty.  You claimed that Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen would literally run over Deegan. But they have never raced each other so how do you know Deegan would lose?

What's interesting with a lot of you Euro's (and Australian's since they seem to target Deegan as well) is that if Haiden raced the 2025 MXoN in America and won, you would say it was because he had hometown advantage.  Yet if Haiden goes to Europe and loses, you would say it's because he is slower. That's called hypocrisy. 

yak651 wrote:

We’ll never know because he’s afraid to race outside the US

Shred wrote:
That’s right.  Also…One thing I do know….Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen won’t run and hide with everyone, like team and mechanic, trying to provide them...

That’s right.  Also…One thing I do know….Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen won’t run and hide with everyone, like team and mechanic, trying to provide them cover and excuses.  They will be here, at Ironman, racing for their countries …even at the slight disadvantage of being on one of our tracks….like we usually are at theirs.  

Everyone wonders why Star doesn’t support MXDN the last 2 years.  They would…if they had a rider able, selected, and willing to go.  They just haven’t had that.  So they will do the smart thing for the team and talk about money and health of rider.  None of which you would have ever heard about had their rider said yes.  …and I’m not talking about Eli who was hurt last year and felt AP earned that spot this year.  Otherwise he would go in a heartbeat and Star would be right there.

Enter Max Anstie

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Shred 9/2/2024 8:52am
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yak651 wrote:

We’ll never know because he’s afraid to race outside the US

Shred wrote:
That’s right.  Also…One thing I do know….Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen won’t run and hide with everyone, like team and mechanic, trying to provide them...

That’s right.  Also…One thing I do know….Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen won’t run and hide with everyone, like team and mechanic, trying to provide them cover and excuses.  They will be here, at Ironman, racing for their countries …even at the slight disadvantage of being on one of our tracks….like we usually are at theirs.  

Everyone wonders why Star doesn’t support MXDN the last 2 years.  They would…if they had a rider able, selected, and willing to go.  They just haven’t had that.  So they will do the smart thing for the team and talk about money and health of rider.  None of which you would have ever heard about had their rider said yes.  …and I’m not talking about Eli who was hurt last year and felt AP earned that spot this year.  Otherwise he would go in a heartbeat and Star would be right there.

gregr wrote:

Enter Max Anstie

Yea…willingness to spend money on a very new rider to the team, that has produced mediocre result's, is not even close to the same as supporting top tier riders that they want to keep.  come on…really?  That’s what you come here with?

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keinz 9/2/2024 9:05am
9/2/2024 9:05am Edited Date/Time 9/2/2024 9:09am

So we'll have to wait and see what excuse he has next year,

Ken Roczen represented Team Germany in the MX2 class. first time At just 15 years old in 2009

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keinz wrote:
So we'll have to wait and see what excuse he has next year,Ken Roczen represented Team Germany in the MX2 class. first time At just 15...

So we'll have to wait and see what excuse he has next year,

Ken Roczen represented Team Germany in the MX2 class. first time At just 15 years old in 2009

Oh..he won’t make an excuse.  He’ll ride if he is selected.  It is easy and no cost to do here and he has a slight advantage having ridden Ironman…..and there is money to be made in his home country.  I’m sure they have it all planned out already.  He’ll act the patriotic hero and all of the ball garglers will swallow.  

Here’s hoping Chance becomes consistent with that next level speed next year and he is selected.

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keinz wrote:
So we'll have to wait and see what excuse he has next year,Ken Roczen represented Team Germany in the MX2 class. first time At just 15...

So we'll have to wait and see what excuse he has next year,

Ken Roczen represented Team Germany in the MX2 class. first time At just 15 years old in 2009

Im thinking next year he will be too busy counting his money to race MXDN.

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971_Fan 9/2/2024 10:14am
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Shred wrote:
That’s right.  Also…One thing I do know….Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen won’t run and hide with everyone, like team and mechanic, trying to provide them...

That’s right.  Also…One thing I do know….Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen won’t run and hide with everyone, like team and mechanic, trying to provide them cover and excuses.  They will be here, at Ironman, racing for their countries …even at the slight disadvantage of being on one of our tracks….like we usually are at theirs.  

Everyone wonders why Star doesn’t support MXDN the last 2 years.  They would…if they had a rider able, selected, and willing to go.  They just haven’t had that.  So they will do the smart thing for the team and talk about money and health of rider.  None of which you would have ever heard about had their rider said yes.  …and I’m not talking about Eli who was hurt last year and felt AP earned that spot this year.  Otherwise he would go in a heartbeat and Star would be right there.

Eli would go in a heartbeat? Since 2015, Eli has turned down the MXoN several times and the two times he did race, it was when it was held in the U.S.  

But please pm me your address so I can send you some flowers and a sympathy card since your feelings are hurt that Haiden chose to not put off having the pins in his wrist removed sooner rather than later so he's best prepared for his 2025 season. 

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creature654 9/2/2024 10:46am
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keinz wrote:
So we'll have to wait and see what excuse he has next year,Ken Roczen represented Team Germany in the MX2 class. first time At just 15...

So we'll have to wait and see what excuse he has next year,

Ken Roczen represented Team Germany in the MX2 class. first time At just 15 years old in 2009

Since we’re pointing out irrelevant facts Deegan was able to accomplish something this year that Kenny was never able to, become AMA 250 MX champion.

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keinz wrote:
So we'll have to wait and see what excuse he has next year,Ken Roczen represented Team Germany in the MX2 class. first time At just 15...

So we'll have to wait and see what excuse he has next year,

Ken Roczen represented Team Germany in the MX2 class. first time At just 15 years old in 2009

creature654 wrote:

Since we’re pointing out irrelevant facts Deegan was able to accomplish something this year that Kenny was never able to, become AMA 250 MX champion.

There are definitely ways that you could frame this argument, but this ain't it 

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keinz 9/2/2024 11:13am
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Haven't you heard, Deegan is the current 250 World Champion!

Haven't you heard, Deegan is the current 250 World Champion!

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keinz wrote:

Nice. Champion of what exactly?

 

Sandusky26 wrote:

Biggest money races in the world. You're boy Harri made damn sure he doesn't miss it.

Harri is at the end of his career. He is 32 y old. Naturally, he will pick up any penny that is available

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keinz 9/2/2024 11:27am
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Shred wrote:
Oh..he won’t make an excuse.  He’ll ride if he is selected.  It is easy and no cost to do here and he has a slight advantage...

Oh..he won’t make an excuse.  He’ll ride if he is selected.  It is easy and no cost to do here and he has a slight advantage having ridden Ironman…..and there is money to be made in his home country.  I’m sure they have it all planned out already.  He’ll act the patriotic hero and all of the ball garglers will swallow.  

Here’s hoping Chance becomes consistent with that next level speed next year and he is selected.

Never mind. For me, he is a pussy who does not dare to compete with the best in the world.

And he was the top choice for the second year in a row fot team USA 

He represent a team just only on the home track, which he has raced a like a hundred times.

Facts don't lie

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Shred wrote:
Oh..he won’t make an excuse.  He’ll ride if he is selected.  It is easy and no cost to do here and he has a slight advantage...

Oh..he won’t make an excuse.  He’ll ride if he is selected.  It is easy and no cost to do here and he has a slight advantage having ridden Ironman…..and there is money to be made in his home country.  I’m sure they have it all planned out already.  He’ll act the patriotic hero and all of the ball garglers will swallow.  

Here’s hoping Chance becomes consistent with that next level speed next year and he is selected.

keinz wrote:
Never mind. For me, he is a pussy who does not dare to compete with the best in the world.And he was the top choice for...

Never mind. For me, he is a pussy who does not dare to compete with the best in the world.

And he was the top choice for the second year in a row fot team USA 

He represent a team just only on the home track, which he has raced a like a hundred times.

Facts don't lie

We could send Deegans sister in a Sunday dress and Estonia still wouldn't have a chance at beating the greatest country on earth.

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Shred wrote:
Oh..he won’t make an excuse.  He’ll ride if he is selected.  It is easy and no cost to do here and he has a slight advantage...

Oh..he won’t make an excuse.  He’ll ride if he is selected.  It is easy and no cost to do here and he has a slight advantage having ridden Ironman…..and there is money to be made in his home country.  I’m sure they have it all planned out already.  He’ll act the patriotic hero and all of the ball garglers will swallow.  

Here’s hoping Chance becomes consistent with that next level speed next year and he is selected.

keinz wrote:
Never mind. For me, he is a pussy who does not dare to compete with the best in the world.And he was the top choice for...

Never mind. For me, he is a pussy who does not dare to compete with the best in the world.

And he was the top choice for the second year in a row fot team USA 

He represent a team just only on the home track, which he has raced a like a hundred times.

Facts don't lie

Sandusky26 wrote:

We could send Deegans sister in a Sunday dress and Estonia still wouldn't have a chance at beating the greatest country on earth.

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Shred wrote:
Oh..he won’t make an excuse.  He’ll ride if he is selected.  It is easy and no cost to do here and he has a slight advantage...

Oh..he won’t make an excuse.  He’ll ride if he is selected.  It is easy and no cost to do here and he has a slight advantage having ridden Ironman…..and there is money to be made in his home country.  I’m sure they have it all planned out already.  He’ll act the patriotic hero and all of the ball garglers will swallow.  

Here’s hoping Chance becomes consistent with that next level speed next year and he is selected.

keinz wrote:
Never mind. For me, he is a pussy who does not dare to compete with the best in the world.And he was the top choice for...

Never mind. For me, he is a pussy who does not dare to compete with the best in the world.

And he was the top choice for the second year in a row fot team USA 

He represent a team just only on the home track, which he has raced a like a hundred times.

Facts don't lie

Sandusky26 wrote:

We could send Deegans sister in a Sunday dress and Estonia still wouldn't have a chance at beating the greatest country on earth.

Hey, leave Australia out of this mate!

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keinz 9/3/2024 5:36am
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The guy is a pure cunt who tries to give the impression that he is the fastest 250 racer in the world. On paper. deWolf and...

The guy is a pure cunt who tries to give the impression that he is the fastest 250 racer in the world. On paper. deWolf and Coenen would literally run over him. Pussy

Prove me wrong

What more I can say,

For the second year in a row, the guy is afraid to compete with  Euros

 

971_Fan wrote:
There is no need to prove you wrong since your claims are empty.  You claimed that Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen would literally run...

There is no need to prove you wrong since your claims are empty.  You claimed that Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen would literally run over Deegan. But they have never raced each other so how do you know Deegan would lose?

What's interesting with a lot of you Euro's (and Australian's since they seem to target Deegan as well) is that if Haiden raced the 2025 MXoN in America and won, you would say it was because he had hometown advantage.  Yet if Haiden goes to Europe and loses, you would say it's because he is slower. That's called hypocrisy. 

How can they compete with each other if one pussy doesn't even show up?

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I'll do my part to head us towards a 20 pager...

I find significant humor in all the couch orthopedic surgeons, the arm chair pro riders, the living room team managers and toilet CEO's claiming their facts...  This thread has surely highlighted the uneducated world we live in now (actually it's just highly opinionated, pure speculation, embellishment and/or conjecture, but I'm having fun at their expense).

Yes, I'd like to see the 250 AMA champ at des Nations.  But if that's not happening, I'm still going to cheer for the team.  I even cheered for the Big Air Tom team...  And one of the teams I was really in to was the team that went to Assen, and after that qualy win by Cooper, I couldn't wait for the first gate drop only to have the entire event lost in the Cooper/Anderson crash on lap 1.

So, Sexton will put it all out there and he's in top form.  AP is the best he's been and needs a redemption ride on the world stage.  I'm expecting a Hymas ride like the first few laps of Unadilla without the crash...  That speed could win a moto outright.  Optimistic?  Yeah...  But one can certainly dream if they want to, but otherwise stay grounded in reality.  Something few on Vital are able to do.

 

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I haven't read anything since page 8. What new ground has been broken?

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No link to Hymas iInstagram ppost from yyesterday yet? Took a fun llittle shot at Deegz

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sam hain 9/3/2024 8:21am
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I haven't read this entire thread, but from what I've seen money trumps patriotism every time. At least when it deals with dirt bike racing.

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Shred wrote:
Oh..he won’t make an excuse.  He’ll ride if he is selected.  It is easy and no cost to do here and he has a slight advantage...

Oh..he won’t make an excuse.  He’ll ride if he is selected.  It is easy and no cost to do here and he has a slight advantage having ridden Ironman…..and there is money to be made in his home country.  I’m sure they have it all planned out already.  He’ll act the patriotic hero and all of the ball garglers will swallow.  

Here’s hoping Chance becomes consistent with that next level speed next year and he is selected.

keinz wrote:
Never mind. For me, he is a pussy who does not dare to compete with the best in the world.And he was the top choice for...

Never mind. For me, he is a pussy who does not dare to compete with the best in the world.

And he was the top choice for the second year in a row fot team USA 

He represent a team just only on the home track, which he has raced a like a hundred times.

Facts don't lie

You need to first have your facts straight. For example, Deegan hasn’t raced Ironman hundreds of times. He’s raced it 3 times. 

As far as the best in the world, that’s an assumption of yours.  Jett proved at the 2023 MXoN who the fastest is. In the MX2 class, it was Vialle who beat Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen. And guess who spent his summer beating Vialle?  You guessed it, Deegan. 

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Shred wrote:
Oh..he won’t make an excuse.  He’ll ride if he is selected.  It is easy and no cost to do here and he has a slight advantage...

Oh..he won’t make an excuse.  He’ll ride if he is selected.  It is easy and no cost to do here and he has a slight advantage having ridden Ironman…..and there is money to be made in his home country.  I’m sure they have it all planned out already.  He’ll act the patriotic hero and all of the ball garglers will swallow.  

Here’s hoping Chance becomes consistent with that next level speed next year and he is selected.

keinz wrote:
Never mind. For me, he is a pussy who does not dare to compete with the best in the world.And he was the top choice for...

Never mind. For me, he is a pussy who does not dare to compete with the best in the world.

And he was the top choice for the second year in a row fot team USA 

He represent a team just only on the home track, which he has raced a like a hundred times.

Facts don't lie

971_Fan wrote:
You need to first have your facts straight. For example, Deegan hasn’t raced Ironman hundreds of times. He’s raced it 3 times. As far as the best...

You need to first have your facts straight. For example, Deegan hasn’t raced Ironman hundreds of times. He’s raced it 3 times. 

As far as the best in the world, that’s an assumption of yours.  Jett proved at the 2023 MXoN who the fastest is. In the MX2 class, it was Vialle who beat Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen. And guess who spent his summer beating Vialle?  You guessed it, Deegan. 

Are you saying since Vialle beat Connenn and Wolf last year but lost to Deegan in the US Nationals. So Deegan would win...Haha. 

Doing moto math never works out, especially at MXDN

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Bonanza69 9/3/2024 9:49am
9/3/2024 9:49am Edited Date/Time 9/3/2024 9:50am
971_Fan wrote:
You need to first have your facts straight. For example, Deegan hasn’t raced Ironman hundreds of times. He’s raced it 3 times. As far as the best...

You need to first have your facts straight. For example, Deegan hasn’t raced Ironman hundreds of times. He’s raced it 3 times. 

As far as the best in the world, that’s an assumption of yours.  Jett proved at the 2023 MXoN who the fastest is. In the MX2 class, it was Vialle who beat Kay de Wolf and Lucas Coenen. And guess who spent his summer beating Vialle?  You guessed it, Deegan. 

Get your facts straight,Jett wasn‘t the fastest,Roczen and Prado beat him in the mxgp class!Who‘s Deegan,raced he outside of the US,outside his comfort zone?He will miss the event for the second consecutive year,it‘s a loser!

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