Team USA: Eli Tomac Takes Himself Out of Consideration

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ARM670 wrote:
So Deegan was given ustill 5 to make a decision. Well its 6:30 and nothing. Enough of the Degan games and move to the next. And...

So Deegan was given ustill 5 to make a decision. Well its 6:30 and nothing. Enough of the Degan games and move to the next. And before someone gIves an excuse. He knows if he is in or out but is playing a game.

We won’t know what he decides instantly, it may take a few days.

If he really wanted to go he would have know a month ago. We used to pick our team at Unadilla. 

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ARM670 wrote:
So Deegan was given ustill 5 to make a decision. Well its 6:30 and nothing. Enough of the Degan games and move to the next. And...

So Deegan was given ustill 5 to make a decision. Well its 6:30 and nothing. Enough of the Degan games and move to the next. And before someone gIves an excuse. He knows if he is in or out but is playing a game.

We won’t know what he decides instantly, it may take a few days.

ARM670 wrote:

If he really wanted to go he would have know a month ago. We used to pick our team at Unadilla. 

Exactly. Anybody questioning if AP or Sexton wants to go? 

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Pulp, Swap, Vital and MXA. 

DonM wrote:
Please show me where Deegan said he wasn't going to go if Eli doesn't....That shit was made up on here that went from someones speculation then...

Please show me where Deegan said he wasn't going to go if Eli doesn't....That shit was made up on here that went from someones speculation then it rolled into a rumor and now you've stated it as fact...Please show where Swap, Vital and Pulp has said that....you're claiming it as fact prove it.

Do your own research. I'm not Deegan's social media bitch, you are. All of those media outlets have postulated that train of events. 

I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating made up shit you read in here...

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DonM wrote:
Please show me where Deegan said he wasn't going to go if Eli doesn't....That shit was made up on here that went from someones speculation then...

Please show me where Deegan said he wasn't going to go if Eli doesn't....That shit was made up on here that went from someones speculation then it rolled into a rumor and now you've stated it as fact...Please show where Swap, Vital and Pulp has said that....you're claiming it as fact prove it.

Do your own research. I'm not Deegan's social media bitch, you are. All of those media outlets have postulated that train of events. 

DonM wrote:
I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating...

I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating made up shit you read in here...

I heard it on pulp and swapmoto. I cant confirm the others since i dont listen to them much. 

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ARM670 wrote:
So Deegan was given ustill 5 to make a decision. Well its 6:30 and nothing. Enough of the Degan games and move to the next. And...

So Deegan was given ustill 5 to make a decision. Well its 6:30 and nothing. Enough of the Degan games and move to the next. And before someone gIves an excuse. He knows if he is in or out but is playing a game.

We won’t know what he decides instantly, it may take a few days.

ARM670 wrote:

If he really wanted to go he would have know a month ago. We used to pick our team at Unadilla. 

I don’t think we’ve picked a team at Unadilla in years. 2018 maybe. 

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We won’t know what he decides instantly, it may take a few days.

ARM670 wrote:

If he really wanted to go he would have know a month ago. We used to pick our team at Unadilla. 

Exactly. Anybody questioning if AP or Sexton wants to go? 

Um they both said they wanted to go. Why would that need questioned?  (Sorry mmisunderstood your comment)

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We won’t know what he decides instantly, it may take a few days.

ARM670 wrote:

If he really wanted to go he would have know a month ago. We used to pick our team at Unadilla. 

I don’t think we’ve picked a team at Unadilla in years. 2018 maybe. 

Your right a couple of years it was earlier and done at Red Bud. Either way we knew who wanted to go, and they knew if they wanted to.  

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Do your own research. I'm not Deegan's social media bitch, you are. All of those media outlets have postulated that train of events. 

DonM wrote:
I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating...

I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating made up shit you read in here...

Farmer J wrote:

I heard it on pulp and swapmoto. I cant confirm the others since i dont listen to them much. 

Yep. The respected sources you've mentioned said it out loud. 

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Do your own research. I'm not Deegan's social media bitch, you are. All of those media outlets have postulated that train of events. 

DonM wrote:
I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating...

I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating made up shit you read in here...

Farmer J wrote:

I heard it on pulp and swapmoto. I cant confirm the others since i dont listen to them much. 

Heard that Deegan said that? He never said that....how people turn rumor and speculation into fact on here is unbelivable. 

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I am dumbfounded by the whole situation.  You ask the series leaders if they want to go (it's easy to figure out if you're gonna get asked because you're the fucking series leader).  They either say "yes or no".  If they decline...then you move on down the list.  I'm dumb as a post and even I can figure it out. 

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DonM wrote:
I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating...

I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating made up shit you read in here...

Farmer J wrote:

I heard it on pulp and swapmoto. I cant confirm the others since i dont listen to them much. 

DonM wrote:

Heard that Deegan said that? He never said that....how people turn rumor and speculation into fact on here is unbelivable. 

Dude, if you're a grown ass man you cannot be this naive. Unless 18-year-old Youtube star Haiden Deegan says it, it isn't true? 

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Farmer J wrote:

I heard it on pulp and swapmoto. I cant confirm the others since i dont listen to them much. 

DonM wrote:

Heard that Deegan said that? He never said that....how people turn rumor and speculation into fact on here is unbelivable. 

Dude, if you're a grown ass man you cannot be this naive. Unless 18-year-old Youtube star Haiden Deegan says it, it isn't true? 

We already know you cant believe what he says. 

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plowboy wrote:
I am dumbfounded by the whole situation.  You ask the series leaders if they want to go (it's easy to figure out if you're gonna get...

I am dumbfounded by the whole situation.  You ask the series leaders if they want to go (it's easy to figure out if you're gonna get asked because you're the fucking series leader).  They either say "yes or no".  If they decline...then you move on down the list.  I'm dumb as a post and even I can figure it out. 

Unless the answer is "I'm not sure"...

But I agree with your point.  If you're not in, you're out.

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Don’t hate him, love watching him ride. Just think he should back up his talk and step up and race the MXON. If he doesn’t want...

Don’t hate him, love watching him ride. Just think he should back up his talk and step up and race the MXON. If he doesn’t want to race it man up and say it, don’t have Star cover for you

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You're assuming that what Star and Haiden are saying is false. You can assume that, but you can't pass your suspicions off as fact. 

I hope you don't believe every press release that you read, especially in this industry.Last year it leaked that Deegan didn't want to race MXdN if...

I hope you don't believe every press release that you read, especially in this industry.

Last year it leaked that Deegan didn't want to race MXdN if the team wasn't capable of winning. Then the backlash occured and Star covered with the story that they wouldn't fund it. That's the timeline and those are the facts. 

I've had people lie to my face in business for 25 years, so I don't believe a sales pitch, press release or job resume without a skeptical eye.

This year, the cover was, "I'm only going if Eli goes." DangerBaby is just afraid to fail. It could hurt the brand.

Actually there was an interview last year with Bobby Reagan regarding Deegan and MXdN where he said it wasn't about the money.

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DonM wrote:
I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating...

I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating made up shit you read in here...

Farmer J wrote:

I heard it on pulp and swapmoto. I cant confirm the others since i dont listen to them much. 

DonM wrote:

Heard that Deegan said that? He never said that....how people turn rumor and speculation into fact on here is unbelivable. 

How do you know he never said that?  Outlets are reporting that he or those close to him said it.  And presumably those close to him are repeating Deegan's own views.  Because of the nature of the media in this sport, and the constraints they operate under, often the best they can do is report what they hear in the pits from those close to those involved.  No one will go on the record. 

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971_Fan wrote:

Show me all the quotes where Deegan goes on about being an American and a patriot. Give the exact words. 

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If you want patriotic Diaper Boy statements, I suggest you visit his IG:Happy 4th of July 🇺🇸, redbud up next ready to carry that flag...

If you want patriotic Diaper Boy statements, I suggest you visit his IG:

Happy 4th of July 🇺🇸, redbud up next ready to carry that flag high!

Ready to turn up tomorrow🇺🇸🇺🇸

Americaaaaa 🇺🇸

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971_Fan wrote:
An American celebrating the 4th of July or a picture with an America flag behind Deegan  is your example of Haiden going on about being patriotic...

An American celebrating the 4th of July or a picture with an America flag behind Deegan  is your example of Haiden going on about being patriotic and more so, overly patriotic?   

Those are pretty weak examples to prove your case here, and the fact that you resort to name calling isn't helping much either. 

Deegan is one of the most eexciting figures to come along in motocross, and has explicitly said he wants to race Europe's best. But if circumstances don't favor that, holding up a flag on the ppodium doesnt obligate him to look past those circumstances and do what's not in his or his career's best intetest. 

When you're working on media for the Deegans do you and DonM share the same cramped office space in one of Brian's basements?  Or do you both WFH? 

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Farmer J wrote:

I heard it on pulp and swapmoto. I cant confirm the others since i dont listen to them much. 

DonM wrote:

Heard that Deegan said that? He never said that....how people turn rumor and speculation into fact on here is unbelivable. 

Herr Lich wrote:
How do you know he never said that?  Outlets are reporting that he or those close to him said it.  And presumably those close to him...

How do you know he never said that?  Outlets are reporting that he or those close to him said it.  And presumably those close to him are repeating Deegan's own views.  Because of the nature of the media in this sport, and the constraints they operate under, often the best they can do is report what they hear in the pits from those close to those involved.  No one will go on the record. 

Because only he can infer what went down, all the rest of us that can read between the lines and have a little common sense are crazy conspiracy nuts

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Unless the answer is "I'm not sure"...

But I agree with your point.  If you're not in, you're out.

That is kinda my point...there really isn't any place for "I'm not sure".  If the answer is "conditional" then I'd take that as a "no" and ask the next guy on the list.  

No hate here.  Do it or don't but this kinda stuff is frankly bullshit.

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hopefully we get an answer soon. would be super lame if he doesn't go. hymas would be fun to watch though. 

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Since Deegan supposedly had a 5pm deadline yesterday, and we have not heard anything, I am assuming that means he said no?If it was yes they...

Since Deegan supposedly had a 5pm deadline yesterday, and we have not heard anything, I am assuming that means he said no?

If it was yes they would have announced it already, no means they now have to make final decision between Hymas, Kitchen (if able due to injury), and RJ?

KurtJ99 wrote:
On the Motoxpod show Deegan said things were still undecided despite the 5pm "deadline". He said both yes and no, but IMO there was more "no"...

On the Motoxpod show Deegan said things were still undecided despite the 5pm "deadline". He said both yes and no, but IMO there was more "no" than yes. We'll see. 

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I heard that team rosters need to be submitted to FIM by September 2, don’t know how accurate that info is…

It's actually 3rd September.

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Herr Lich wrote:
When you're working on media for the Deegans do you and DonM share the same cramped office space in one of Brian's basements?  Or do you...

When you're working on media for the Deegans do you and DonM share the same cramped office space in one of Brian's basements?  Or do you both WFH? 

This is where the discussion with you ends for me. If you are going to turn to personal insults instead of addressing my points, then that tells me all I need to know.  

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yak651 wrote:
Because only he can infer what went down, all the rest of us that can read between the lines and have a little common sense are...

Because only he can infer what went down, all the rest of us that can read between the lines and have a little common sense are crazy conspiracy nuts

What you call reading between the lines and common sense is nothing more than incredulity, which is fine. But unless it's buttressed with supporting evidence apart from your doubts, it's just that (incredulity) and there is no need to take it seriously. 

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DonM wrote:
Please show me where Deegan said he wasn't going to go if Eli doesn't....That shit was made up on here that went from someones speculation then...

Please show me where Deegan said he wasn't going to go if Eli doesn't....That shit was made up on here that went from someones speculation then it rolled into a rumor and now you've stated it as fact...Please show where Swap, Vital and Pulp has said that....you're claiming it as fact prove it.

Do your own research. I'm not Deegan's social media bitch, you are. All of those media outlets have postulated that train of events. 

DonM wrote:
I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating...

I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating made up shit you read in here...

Okay smart guy, you're going to love this. 

Go ahead and llisten to the Sexton interview when Matthes states that Brian Deegan says, "We don't want to go if we can't win."

At about the 36 minute mark. Enjoy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=72nOOGYMGMk

 

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Do your own research. I'm not Deegan's social media bitch, you are. All of those media outlets have postulated that train of events. 

DonM wrote:
I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating...

I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating made up shit you read in here...

Okay smart guy, you're going to love this. Go ahead and llisten to the Sexton interview when Matthes states that Brian Deegan says, "We don't want to...

Okay smart guy, you're going to love this. 

Go ahead and llisten to the Sexton interview when Matthes states that Brian Deegan says, "We don't want to go if we can't win."

At about the 36 minute mark. Enjoy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=72nOOGYMGMk

 

It's kinda sad that you scoured media to find that, even sadder that it's not relevant to this conversation as he's clearly referencing last year. In your search did you happen to find anyone saying Deegan won't go this year without Eli? 

Did you catch Chase say "if he needs to get his wrist fixed that's one thing . . ."? That's why he couldn't just make up his mind a month ago, he was waiting until after the season to get his wrist checked out to see if he needs surgery. That isn't 43rd hand hearsay being passed around social media, that came direct from Deegan's mouth.

So maybe wipe the foam from the sides of your mouth and wait for an actual announcement.

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Maybe Brian’s not allowed out of the country and doesn’t want his boy to go without him. 

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8/28/2024 4:34am Edited Date/Time 8/28/2024 4:41am
DonM wrote:
I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating...

I'm not the one making the claim, you are and no they haven't...not one has said that Deegan said he's not going without Eli...you're just regurgitating made up shit you read in here...

Okay smart guy, you're going to love this. Go ahead and llisten to the Sexton interview when Matthes states that Brian Deegan says, "We don't want to...

Okay smart guy, you're going to love this. 

Go ahead and llisten to the Sexton interview when Matthes states that Brian Deegan says, "We don't want to go if we can't win."

At about the 36 minute mark. Enjoy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=72nOOGYMGMk

 

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It's kinda sad that you scoured media to find that, even sadder that it's not relevant to this conversation as he's clearly referencing last year. In...

It's kinda sad that you scoured media to find that, even sadder that it's not relevant to this conversation as he's clearly referencing last year. In your search did you happen to find anyone saying Deegan won't go this year without Eli? 

Did you catch Chase say "if he needs to get his wrist fixed that's one thing . . ."? That's why he couldn't just make up his mind a month ago, he was waiting until after the season to get his wrist checked out to see if he needs surgery. That isn't 43rd hand hearsay being passed around social media, that came direct from Deegan's mouth.

So maybe wipe the foam from the sides of your mouth and wait for an actual announcement.

Lol, scoured the media to find the most popular moto podcast on the planet? 

It was the first link on my youtube, nuthugger

Did you miss the part when Matthes said Star had no problem funding riders for MXdN in the past?

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Okay smart guy, you're going to love this. Go ahead and llisten to the Sexton interview when Matthes states that Brian Deegan says, "We don't want to...

Okay smart guy, you're going to love this. 

Go ahead and llisten to the Sexton interview when Matthes states that Brian Deegan says, "We don't want to go if we can't win."

At about the 36 minute mark. Enjoy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=72nOOGYMGMk

 

GrapeApe wrote:
It's kinda sad that you scoured media to find that, even sadder that it's not relevant to this conversation as he's clearly referencing last year. In...

It's kinda sad that you scoured media to find that, even sadder that it's not relevant to this conversation as he's clearly referencing last year. In your search did you happen to find anyone saying Deegan won't go this year without Eli? 

Did you catch Chase say "if he needs to get his wrist fixed that's one thing . . ."? That's why he couldn't just make up his mind a month ago, he was waiting until after the season to get his wrist checked out to see if he needs surgery. That isn't 43rd hand hearsay being passed around social media, that came direct from Deegan's mouth.

So maybe wipe the foam from the sides of your mouth and wait for an actual announcement.

Lol, scoured the media to find the most popular moto podcast on the planet? It was the first link on my youtube, nuthuggerDid you miss the part...

Lol, scoured the media to find the most popular moto podcast on the planet? 

It was the first link on my youtube, nuthugger

Did you miss the part when Matthes said Star had no problem funding riders for MXdN in the past?

Sorry your video is worthless to this conversation but how does that make me a nuthugger? I'm truly curious if Deegan said they won't go without Eli, you don't seem to have an answer.

Yes, Star has historically supported its riders and the MXdN. Not sure what that has to do with any facet of this thread through.

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GrapeApe wrote:
It's kinda sad that you scoured media to find that, even sadder that it's not relevant to this conversation as he's clearly referencing last year. In...

It's kinda sad that you scoured media to find that, even sadder that it's not relevant to this conversation as he's clearly referencing last year. In your search did you happen to find anyone saying Deegan won't go this year without Eli? 

Did you catch Chase say "if he needs to get his wrist fixed that's one thing . . ."? That's why he couldn't just make up his mind a month ago, he was waiting until after the season to get his wrist checked out to see if he needs surgery. That isn't 43rd hand hearsay being passed around social media, that came direct from Deegan's mouth.

So maybe wipe the foam from the sides of your mouth and wait for an actual announcement.

Lol, scoured the media to find the most popular moto podcast on the planet? It was the first link on my youtube, nuthuggerDid you miss the part...

Lol, scoured the media to find the most popular moto podcast on the planet? 

It was the first link on my youtube, nuthugger

Did you miss the part when Matthes said Star had no problem funding riders for MXdN in the past?

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Sorry your video is worthless to this conversation but how does that make me a nuthugger? I'm truly curious if Deegan said they won't go without...

Sorry your video is worthless to this conversation but how does that make me a nuthugger? I'm truly curious if Deegan said they won't go without Eli, you don't seem to have an answer.

Yes, Star has historically supported its riders and the MXdN. Not sure what that has to do with any facet of this thread through.

Did you not read the last three pages? This is the discussion now. 

If you're referencing the thread title, that's an amateur attempt at deflection.

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Maybe Brian’s not allowed out of the country and doesn’t want his boy to go without him. 

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Maybe Brian’s not allowed out of the country and doesn’t want his boy to go without him. 

Finally something that makes sense lol. Touche 

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