Prado opinion about the lappers

He's going to love the AMA nationals 😆

But AMA are more wide than GP tracks... Maybe its more easy to past a lappers in nationals.

They just need to put horns on the top riders bikes...that are loud as fuck...

RIP anyone holding a blue flag next summer 😭

Since they are now using GPS for safety reasons, maybe they can put a flashing blue light on the bars or front fender for when you are about to get lapped. If the new GPS system can tell when a rider is down it can easily tell when a rider is coming up to lap another rider.

Jorge is talking about 30-40secs a lap difference, but the difference is actually much less and still riders get lapped twice a race. 

Imo its actually really hard to solve. 

It would help if tracks would be longer, but Infront does not want that because they would need more tv cameras which is costly. 

Also you could say if you get lapped you have to retire from the race. But actually would make it harder to lap because those guys will try to fight getting lapped at the end of the race. And we'll end up with 15 riders on track (nr 16 was lapped on sunday), which is not a nice look as well.

I have to ask...is getting around lappers any harder now than it was in the '70's, 80's, '90's?

Or, does track design, prep and 4 stroke torque create more "one lined hard to pass situations?

I'm all about safety but I'm also a traditionalist.  There has to be tweaks they can try before reducing the gates.

We're basically talking about eliminatating the privateers/small teams from the sport.  

i agree with most of what he said except for if you get lapped your out. i think if you get lapped twice you should have to pull off the tracl you not in the race and clearly going so much slower you are a risk to other riders at that point 

Lapped two times = black flag. Seems fair. 

Edit:

This system may lead to harder racing for the back markers. If you’re close to a points paying position a guy might put in some extra effort to race forward to avoid a black flag. A race within the race if you will. The constructor’s championship in F1 is “kinda” the same. You see guys racing incredibly hard for 10th to gain points. In MX we get guys circulating 3+ laps down out of the points.  

The term "professional racer" is painted with a very broad brush in this sport, the guy getting the 40th gate pick is not in the same ballpark as the guys finishing inside the top 10 every moto. Cry all you want but that's the facts. I agree with Prado, if you get lapped you're done until the next moto or next round (if moto2). These front runners shouldn't have to navigate a mine field in order to stay in front or take lines all over the track to get away from guys with ego's that won't let them around.

conversation we should have, but people do not want to:

107% rule should exist AT LEAST for 450's.

We might as well throw the blue flag in the trash if you go this route.   I say let them all race like we are doing now.  

+1

When the women got their own championship class in Sweden the top girls requested that they should reduce the number of gates from 40 to 20 because of the speed difference that they had compared to the slower girls out there.

And it is the same in both the GP’s and Nationals that the back markers are not on the same planet when it comes to speed.

Just for qqualifying or race too?

I tthink F1 is jjust qqualifying. 

And if you fall and go down, do you get black flagged too?

How about, if you're lapped by the top 8 or 10 you're out?

I think waiting for someone to get lapped twice is unfair to the leader who would be the only guy having to navigate these dudes a second time.

Lappers are a part of any motorsport. That said, anyone being lapped more than once needs to be black flagged. If the leaders are going by you twice in a 30-minute race it's either not your day or you don't belong on the track. 

See, I think lappers are an essential part of a winner's race strategy. Everyone has had to figure this problem out for the last 50 years. Jorge needs to man up. 

Lapped before the 20 minute mark you get pulled. If you can stay on the lead lap for that long you earned the right to fight for your position the remaining time left in the moto. Pay points to all finishing riders to gain incentive to work on speed/endurance to race all moto

I could see something like this coming into play. SX Futures is utilizing a 125% rule so maybe this is something that is being discussed. 

I feel that many can put in 1 fast lap relatively close to prado's speed. But during race thry lose a lot more per lap

I hope Prado speaking about deep sand races

This. Road racing does this to keep the field full but cut down lappers. The % over varies but the idea is the same.

40 riders is too many with 2 minute laptimes and 18 laps. There's a race going on and they're not in it.

How do MXGP fans feel about spectating 40-rider gates versus 30? What benefit does it have for fans on tv or in person?

Exactly this 

I've always thought cross jumping was more dangerous than lappers to be honest, don't expect him to mention that though

So is this just for MX, or SX too, cause all of the top 10 would have been black flagged this year in SX...

Lappers are part of Moto-sport racing, F1, MotoGP, Nascar, they all have to deal with it. Its part of the landscape and then throw rain in there and all bets are off.

His SX skills are going to be fun to watch😆

Moto is quickly becoming another prima-donna sport.    How f**kin hard is it to go around a lapper?....  dangerous?....give me a break. 

"Hey privateers..... F**k you!" is what this amounts to. 

No, you move to go and get $200.