Mx Sports takes Slowie Films Media pass.

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Professional Motocross was here before DC jr and will be here after he leaves. 

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Maybe.  MXSports and MX fights against many foes and competitors.  Landowners, noise regulations, discretionary income alternatives, declining bike sales, you name it. Slowie could be the...

Maybe.  MXSports and MX fights against many foes and competitors.  Landowners, noise regulations, discretionary income alternatives, declining bike sales, you name it. Slowie could be the least of their worries. 

MX sports is fighting those? Or the tracks themselves?

Both. MXSports exists at the discretion of the track owners. If a national track shuts down, for whatever reasons, MXSports is impacted.  Direct and indirect events affect all companies. 

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I can't watch his videos.  He looks too much like a muppet and it messes with my brain. 

I can't watch his videos.  

He looks too much like a muppet and it messes with my brain. 

Worried about another mans appearance?? Idk man you do you. 

I'm sorry you've lost your sense of humor. 

I actually have no problem watching his videos. 

But he definitely looks like a muppet that found itself in a Pinocchio situation and ended up a real boy.  

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8/16/2024 11:04am
LoudLove wrote:
DC, like any business owner, has the right to grant access.  And DC/MXSports are a driving force behind keeping the Nationals alive and well.  Those who...

DC, like any business owner, has the right to grant access.  And DC/MXSports are a driving force behind keeping the Nationals alive and well.  Those who side with the videographer may want to consider where MX might be if run by a soulless corporation versus a family who has invested their entire lives into this sport. 

Davey IS motocross; Slowie’s just passing through.  If you don’t like MXSport’s decision-making I’m sure DC is open to selling it to interested parties. 

This statement is highly debatable. Davey is motocross is also about the worst non political statement ive seen made in awhile. Especially the soulless corp bit. Of course anything would be better then that. That was never an ooption that i was aware of.

Im not going to say daveys not a hard worker. But if davey and mxsport disappeared from the face of the planet tomorrow mx will be just fine. People act as if mxsport did something unseen or revolutionary and are the savior of the sport and their not. Theres alot of growth in this sport that has been drowned out. An theres a decent amount of people in the industry that agree. An no Davey aint sellin his right to shit.

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8/16/2024 11:26am

Mx sports is a company their to make money so should always be viewed as such 

,  but I am glad they took the rights to the Mx series , as looking at what they did to road race and flat track it would have been awful if dmg had done it themselves 

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8/16/2024 11:32am
LoudLove wrote:
Both. MXSports exists at the discretion of the track owners. If a national track shuts down, for whatever reasons, MXSports is impacted.  Direct and indirect events...

Both. MXSports exists at the discretion of the track owners. If a national track shuts down, for whatever reasons, MXSports is impacted.  Direct and indirect events affect all companies. 

Not hardly. 

Mxsports does not exist at the discretion of the tracks. Thats the exact oopposite of why they exist. 

If they exist at the tracks discretion they would still be the legal representative of the NPG instead of putting in seperate bids to aquire the right to MX while still representing the NPG and not disclosing that until the after it was to late for the npg to get new representation. Again nothing mx sport is doing is any ddifferent then what they would have been doing working in the npg except their bottom line of profit 📈 and control of profit.

Everyone blames bud but lets be real honest if Buds an asshole and the NPG decide  in a vote to tell bud to go fuck himself and boot GH off the schedule. Why would people think all of the changes that happened couldnt have happened. Why couldnt davey suggest all these changes as a part of the npg. Are you saying all of these tracks are to ignorant in bussines to work together like they have done in the past and do now. 

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8/16/2024 11:35am Edited Date/Time 8/16/2024 11:39am
scott_nz wrote:
Mx sports is a company their to make money so should always be viewed as such ,  but I am glad they took the rights to the...

Mx sports is a company their to make money so should always be viewed as such 

,  but I am glad they took the rights to the Mx series , as looking at what they did to road race and flat track it would have been awful if dmg had done it themselves 

Dmg never from what i remember wanted to run mx sx. Could be wrong. 

Road race and flat track are actually a harder sell then mx/sx. Flat i feel like is coming around. Road race slowly as well but even now were seen in the road race world as a side show.We're  a far cry from our hay day. Itdidn't  help alot of the oems pulled a lot of support before and after for both series. Even now Road racing here is looked at national series and not a major "world" series like it was in the past. Win a ama title here amd then have offers for WSBK or MotoGp are long gone.

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LoudLove wrote:
Both. MXSports exists at the discretion of the track owners. If a national track shuts down, for whatever reasons, MXSports is impacted.  Direct and indirect events...

Both. MXSports exists at the discretion of the track owners. If a national track shuts down, for whatever reasons, MXSports is impacted.  Direct and indirect events affect all companies. 

Not hardly. Mxsports does not exist at the discretion of the tracks. Thats the exact oopposite of why they exist. If they exist at the tracks discretion they...

Not hardly. 

Mxsports does not exist at the discretion of the tracks. Thats the exact oopposite of why they exist. 

If they exist at the tracks discretion they would still be the legal representative of the NPG instead of putting in seperate bids to aquire the right to MX while still representing the NPG and not disclosing that until the after it was to late for the npg to get new representation. Again nothing mx sport is doing is any ddifferent then what they would have been doing working in the npg except their bottom line of profit 📈 and control of profit.

Everyone blames bud but lets be real honest if Buds an asshole and the NPG decide  in a vote to tell bud to go fuck himself and boot GH off the schedule. Why would people think all of the changes that happened couldnt have happened. Why couldnt davey suggest all these changes as a part of the npg. Are you saying all of these tracks are to ignorant in bussines to work together like they have done in the past and do now. 

You are incorrect.  Even Lori confirmed, as well as other track owners that MX Sports did disclose the separate bid before hand.  

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8/16/2024 12:07pm
LoudLove wrote:
Both. MXSports exists at the discretion of the track owners. If a national track shuts down, for whatever reasons, MXSports is impacted.  Direct and indirect events...

Both. MXSports exists at the discretion of the track owners. If a national track shuts down, for whatever reasons, MXSports is impacted.  Direct and indirect events affect all companies. 

Not hardly. Mxsports does not exist at the discretion of the tracks. Thats the exact oopposite of why they exist. If they exist at the tracks discretion they...

Not hardly. 

Mxsports does not exist at the discretion of the tracks. Thats the exact oopposite of why they exist. 

If they exist at the tracks discretion they would still be the legal representative of the NPG instead of putting in seperate bids to aquire the right to MX while still representing the NPG and not disclosing that until the after it was to late for the npg to get new representation. Again nothing mx sport is doing is any ddifferent then what they would have been doing working in the npg except their bottom line of profit 📈 and control of profit.

Everyone blames bud but lets be real honest if Buds an asshole and the NPG decide  in a vote to tell bud to go fuck himself and boot GH off the schedule. Why would people think all of the changes that happened couldnt have happened. Why couldnt davey suggest all these changes as a part of the npg. Are you saying all of these tracks are to ignorant in bussines to work together like they have done in the past and do now. 

You obviously have a deeper involvement in this than me.  My assumption was that the tracks are at liberty to not renew their agreements with MXSoorts.  No renewal = no track, meaning MXSports must uncover a viable alternative. Which to a layman seems like a bad thing. 

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8/16/2024 12:14pm Edited Date/Time 8/16/2024 12:15pm
Dmg never from what i remember wanted to run mx sx. Could be wrong. Road race and flat track are actually a harder sell then mx/sx. Flat...

Dmg never from what i remember wanted to run mx sx. Could be wrong. 

Road race and flat track are actually a harder sell then mx/sx. Flat i feel like is coming around. Road race slowly as well but even now were seen in the road race world as a side show.We're  a far cry from our hay day. Itdidn't  help alot of the oems pulled a lot of support before and after for both series. Even now Road racing here is looked at national series and not a major "world" series like it was in the past. Win a ama title here amd then have offers for WSBK or MotoGp are long gone.

Maybe they saw a good partner with MX and getting the sancationing fee was easier than running it,  have never really seen much in depth about it, 

Flat track is struggling with very little manufactuer support,  and with them banning the indian next year its will be interesting to see how many twins they keep getting, , 

Moto America has turned around road racing for sure, after DMG destroyed it, and from my understaining the manufactuers left mainly due to the class rules DMG put in place, 

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8/16/2024 12:20pm
LoudLove wrote:
Both. MXSports exists at the discretion of the track owners. If a national track shuts down, for whatever reasons, MXSports is impacted.  Direct and indirect events...

Both. MXSports exists at the discretion of the track owners. If a national track shuts down, for whatever reasons, MXSports is impacted.  Direct and indirect events affect all companies. 

Not hardly. Mxsports does not exist at the discretion of the tracks. Thats the exact oopposite of why they exist. If they exist at the tracks discretion they...

Not hardly. 

Mxsports does not exist at the discretion of the tracks. Thats the exact oopposite of why they exist. 

If they exist at the tracks discretion they would still be the legal representative of the NPG instead of putting in seperate bids to aquire the right to MX while still representing the NPG and not disclosing that until the after it was to late for the npg to get new representation. Again nothing mx sport is doing is any ddifferent then what they would have been doing working in the npg except their bottom line of profit 📈 and control of profit.

Everyone blames bud but lets be real honest if Buds an asshole and the NPG decide  in a vote to tell bud to go fuck himself and boot GH off the schedule. Why would people think all of the changes that happened couldnt have happened. Why couldnt davey suggest all these changes as a part of the npg. Are you saying all of these tracks are to ignorant in bussines to work together like they have done in the past and do now. 

You are incorrect.  Even Lori confirmed, as well as other track owners that MX Sports did disclose the separate bid before hand.  

You are talking the AMA bid, he was referring to the DMG bid for MX, which was not disclosed to NPG.

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8/16/2024 12:28pm
Not hardly. Mxsports does not exist at the discretion of the tracks. Thats the exact oopposite of why they exist. If they exist at the tracks discretion they...

Not hardly. 

Mxsports does not exist at the discretion of the tracks. Thats the exact oopposite of why they exist. 

If they exist at the tracks discretion they would still be the legal representative of the NPG instead of putting in seperate bids to aquire the right to MX while still representing the NPG and not disclosing that until the after it was to late for the npg to get new representation. Again nothing mx sport is doing is any ddifferent then what they would have been doing working in the npg except their bottom line of profit 📈 and control of profit.

Everyone blames bud but lets be real honest if Buds an asshole and the NPG decide  in a vote to tell bud to go fuck himself and boot GH off the schedule. Why would people think all of the changes that happened couldnt have happened. Why couldnt davey suggest all these changes as a part of the npg. Are you saying all of these tracks are to ignorant in bussines to work together like they have done in the past and do now. 

You are incorrect.  Even Lori confirmed, as well as other track owners that MX Sports did disclose the separate bid before hand.  

You are talking the AMA bid, he was referring to the DMG bid for MX, which was not disclosed to NPG.

I would direct you back to the interview in Gypsy. Lori confirmed, as well as it was stated in other sources, that Davey called and explained that MXSports was putting in a second bid as the NPG did not have offices or staff.  

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8/16/2024 12:49pm

Searches for phones and cameras coming soon to a

Mx race near you!  Haha

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so we instantly grab the Vital phone to reach out to DC if/when he needs the opportunity to defend himself, AND we then pass along that...

so we instantly grab the Vital phone to reach out to DC if/when he needs the opportunity to defend himself, AND we then pass along that defense to the masses? HOWEVER, when there's an issue that is critical of DC that he can't really defend (multiple flagging issues this year) we just wait for the topic to die down so that DC isn't forced to address the issue?

Just trying to keep up.

I shall refer you to my usual answer I’ll be giving you from now on. “bite me”

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8/16/2024 1:08pm

You are incorrect.  Even Lori confirmed, as well as other track owners that MX Sports did disclose the separate bid before hand.  

You are talking the AMA bid, he was referring to the DMG bid for MX, which was not disclosed to NPG.

I would direct you back to the interview in Gypsy. Lori confirmed, as well as it was stated in other sources, that Davey called and explained...

I would direct you back to the interview in Gypsy. Lori confirmed, as well as it was stated in other sources, that Davey called and explained that MXSports was putting in a second bid as the NPG did not have offices or staff.  

Again you are confusing the separate bid after DMG had won the bid for all things AMA. Then MxSports did a deal with DMG for MX, without NPG dudes.

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Again you are confusing the separate bid after DMG had won the bid for all things AMA. Then MxSports did a deal with DMG for MX...

Again you are confusing the separate bid after DMG had won the bid for all things AMA. Then MxSports did a deal with DMG for MX, without NPG dudes.

My mistake.  But why would the NPG have any expectation of being notified about MX Sports being approached as a series promoter by DMG? 

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8/16/2024 1:18pm

Some of you guys are a real buzz kill with thread hi-jack-ing. Can we get back to talking about this guy? 😃

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Again you are confusing the separate bid after DMG had won the bid for all things AMA. Then MxSports did a deal with DMG for MX...

Again you are confusing the separate bid after DMG had won the bid for all things AMA. Then MxSports did a deal with DMG for MX, without NPG dudes.

I thought DMG didnt want to deal with NPG because it was so disjointed....(too many cooks in the kitchen kinda deal).  

Can the flagger situation be better...of course.  Can the transparency be better...yep.  Can DC make everyone happy...no.  When I've been able to talk to him he always wants to know how things can be improved.  He does give a shit.

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8/16/2024 1:34pm
Some of you guys are a real buzz kill with thread hi-jack-ing. Can we get back to talking about this guy? 😃[img]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTeDq9w1o4KiVqtbWDrRn5m20G1VXoWuRJgw&s[/img]

Some of you guys are a real buzz kill with thread hi-jack-ing. Can we get back to talking about this guy? 😃

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8/16/2024 2:51pm Edited Date/Time 8/16/2024 2:52pm
scott_nz wrote:
Mx sports is a company their to make money so should always be viewed as such ,  but I am glad they took the rights to the...

Mx sports is a company their to make money so should always be viewed as such 

,  but I am glad they took the rights to the Mx series , as looking at what they did to road race and flat track it would have been awful if dmg had done it themselves 

On the reverse look what the MA in Oz has done after taking the nationals off the promoter. The series is heaps better under MA. The AORC was dead until MA took over now it’s thriving. Horses for courses I suppose.

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8/16/2024 3:42pm

Fuuuuuuk..  Another episode of 'point / counterpoint' till the end of time. 

What part of " we'd prefer this content doesn't get in front of the facility insurance underwriters " is so hard to understand ? 

That's smart & seeing the bigger picture, protecting the venues ( & your ticket prices ) from the burden of increased rates or an inability to procure coverage at all.  No insurance coverage = no event & no TV camera work / announcer mistakes / flagger faux pas to bitch about ad nauseum.  

Watch the videos .. lets see a show of hands who thinks that that crap, & yes ; it's most definitely crap, has any value. At all.  
Anytime someone like DC or ML for that matter act like an adult in the room & render a reasonable & to-the-point explanation they get pilloried for it by Dullard Nation.

ML, I honestly don't know how you do it, you've got the patience of a saint apparently, I wouldn't last till noon for any amount of money. 

 

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8/16/2024 3:48pm
Again you are confusing the separate bid after DMG had won the bid for all things AMA. Then MxSports did a deal with DMG for MX...

Again you are confusing the separate bid after DMG had won the bid for all things AMA. Then MxSports did a deal with DMG for MX, without NPG dudes.

My mistake.  But why would the NPG have any expectation of being notified about MX Sports being approached as a series promoter by DMG? 

No worries.....the whole deal is convoluted. Bud sees it as shady, from his perspective.

DC does not see anything shady about how it went down. You can see both sides.

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8/16/2024 3:50pm
Again you are confusing the separate bid after DMG had won the bid for all things AMA. Then MxSports did a deal with DMG for MX...

Again you are confusing the separate bid after DMG had won the bid for all things AMA. Then MxSports did a deal with DMG for MX, without NPG dudes.

plowboy wrote:
I thought DMG didnt want to deal with NPG because it was so disjointed....(too many cooks in the kitchen kinda deal).  Can the flagger situation be...

I thought DMG didnt want to deal with NPG because it was so disjointed....(too many cooks in the kitchen kinda deal).  

Can the flagger situation be better...of course.  Can the transparency be better...yep.  Can DC make everyone happy...no.  When I've been able to talk to him he always wants to know how things can be improved.  He does give a shit.

Well, that's what MXSports says.

I blame the lunatics at the AMA for all of this.

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so we instantly grab the Vital phone to reach out to DC if/when he needs the opportunity to defend himself, AND we then pass along that...

so we instantly grab the Vital phone to reach out to DC if/when he needs the opportunity to defend himself, AND we then pass along that defense to the masses? HOWEVER, when there's an issue that is critical of DC that he can't really defend (multiple flagging issues this year) we just wait for the topic to die down so that DC isn't forced to address the issue?

Just trying to keep up.

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so we instantly grab the Vital phone to reach out to DC if/when he needs the opportunity to defend himself, AND we then pass along that...

so we instantly grab the Vital phone to reach out to DC if/when he needs the opportunity to defend himself, AND we then pass along that defense to the masses? HOWEVER, when there's an issue that is critical of DC that he can't really defend (multiple flagging issues this year) we just wait for the topic to die down so that DC isn't forced to address the issue?

Just trying to keep up.

ML512 wrote:

I shall refer you to my usual answer I’ll be giving you from now on. “bite me”

Have you asked him directly on record why the flaggers are people who volunteer for a free t shirt and suck at their job? 

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I do remember the old Crash and Burn page of Dirt Bike.  That was good. 

Somewhere I have a bunch of those I cut out of the mags....one of these days, I'll find them and post what I have. 

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so we instantly grab the Vital phone to reach out to DC if/when he needs the opportunity to defend himself, AND we then pass along that...

so we instantly grab the Vital phone to reach out to DC if/when he needs the opportunity to defend himself, AND we then pass along that defense to the masses? HOWEVER, when there's an issue that is critical of DC that he can't really defend (multiple flagging issues this year) we just wait for the topic to die down so that DC isn't forced to address the issue?

Just trying to keep up.

ML512 wrote:

I shall refer you to my usual answer I’ll be giving you from now on. “bite me”

Have you asked him directly on record why the flaggers are people who volunteer for a free t shirt and suck at their job? 

Haha nevermind. Sent to the dumbgeon. Classic 

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