Tomac to WSX Confirmed

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McG194 wrote:
I don't get this take at all. More moto jobs is great for the industry and a successful WSX can only improve the AMA series. If...

I don't get this take at all. More moto jobs is great for the industry and a successful WSX can only improve the AMA series. If a gate is dropping, I'm calling it racing. 

LungButter wrote:

He doesn't like ANYTHING about the modern version of the sport and also is too old/scared to ride anymore.  

I'm not sure why he's even here.

Que picture for reply coming in hot. 

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Wonder if ET gets paid for cancelled races? 

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8/14/2024 12:15pm
McG194 wrote:

Apparently, the rumors of WSX's demise have been greatly exaggerated. 

If WSX keeps having to pay the racers JUST to show up and also let the racers KEEP the winnings...They will be broke after this year, AGAIN. Their business model is complete garbage. Just because you throw money at someone and they agree to it, doesn't make the series valid. If a fair race was forking out money like this, the racers would still agree to show up. None of the AMA racers have to be bribed to race their series because it IS THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP OF SUPERCROSS AND MOTOCROSS.

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LungButter wrote:

Woah...I bet Kenny is pissed.

 

kxking wrote:

You don't think Kenny will have anything for Eli?

ATKpilot99 wrote:
He absolutely will especially on their tracks . So it's basically Kenny vs. Eli.  Definitely a win for this series landing Tomac in addition to Kenny but...

He absolutely will especially on their tracks .

 So it's basically Kenny vs. Eli.  Definitely a win for this series landing Tomac in addition to Kenny but they're at the tail end of their careers . It will be interesting to see if they can land younger talent going forward . 

What's wrong with landing stars at the tail end of their careers? I think it's a perfect business model. Gives the series instant creditability and it gives us a chance to watch our favorites after they are no longer winning every race and would have otherwise quit racing.   

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kxking wrote:

You don't think Kenny will have anything for Eli?

LungButter wrote:
I never said that.But Kenny just went from a 99.9% chance of being the Champion to having to race his greatest career rival win it now...

I never said that.

But Kenny just went from a 99.9% chance of being the Champion to having to race his greatest career rival win it now.  I just be he's pissed that it's not gonna be a cakewalk now.

You really think that's Ken Roczen's mentality?

I would be surprised if any of the top guys had that mindset. They want to race legit guys and beat them.

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SoCalMX70 wrote:
You really think that's Ken Roczen's mentality?I would be surprised if any of the top guys had that mindset. They want to race legit guys and...

You really think that's Ken Roczen's mentality?

I would be surprised if any of the top guys had that mindset. They want to race legit guys and beat them.

You're probably not wrong.

But yeah, I do think he's probably a little disappointed that he can't just cake walk to another "World Championship".

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8/14/2024 12:52pm

this version of WSX, which does not clash with US or MXGP races is far more likely to see this happen more, 

 

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8/14/2024 12:55pm
Magoofan wrote:

Frankly.....wSX is completely beneath Tomac (and Kenny).       It's a dog and pony show for them to be there. 

 

At least they’re getting paid and we get to see some gate drops during the off season. Win win 🤗

Magoofan wrote:
No offense....    but if you want to call wSX "racing"....have at it.          It's not  racing in my book.Tomac/Roczen....

No offense....    but if you want to call wSX "racing"....have at it.          It's not  racing in my book.

Tomac/Roczen....

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Oh Im not offended. I’ll enjoy some gate drops and you can enjoy….well….tbh, I don’t know if you actually enjoy any of this but different strokes I guess 🤷🏻‍♀️

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8/14/2024 12:57pm Edited Date/Time 8/14/2024 12:57pm
McG194 wrote:

Apparently, the rumors of WSX's demise have been greatly exaggerated. 

HonDawg17 wrote:
If WSX keeps having to pay the racers JUST to show up and also let the racers KEEP the winnings...They will be broke after this year...

If WSX keeps having to pay the racers JUST to show up and also let the racers KEEP the winnings...They will be broke after this year, AGAIN. Their business model is complete garbage. Just because you throw money at someone and they agree to it, doesn't make the series valid. If a fair race was forking out money like this, the racers would still agree to show up. None of the AMA racers have to be bribed to race their series because it IS THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP OF SUPERCROSS AND MOTOCROSS.

Ummm in case you missed it, ALL of the top guys racing AMA SX are getting a paycheck just to show up and they get to keep their race winnings.

Next argument please?

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kxking wrote:
Ummm in case you missed it, ALL of the top guys racing AMA SX are getting a paycheck just to show up and they get to...

Ummm in case you missed it, ALL of the top guys racing AMA SX are getting a paycheck just to show up and they get to keep their race winnings.

Next argument please?

Ummmm

That's not really an apples to apples comparison, you understand that right?

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Good for Eli...scores a big check to race some meaningless off season races...

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8/14/2024 1:13pm
kxking wrote:

You don't think Kenny will have anything for Eli?

LungButter wrote:
I never said that.But Kenny just went from a 99.9% chance of being the Champion to having to race his greatest career rival win it now...

I never said that.

But Kenny just went from a 99.9% chance of being the Champion to having to race his greatest career rival win it now.  I just be he's pissed that it's not gonna be a cakewalk now.

SoCalMX70 wrote:
You really think that's Ken Roczen's mentality?I would be surprised if any of the top guys had that mindset. They want to race legit guys and...

You really think that's Ken Roczen's mentality?

I would be surprised if any of the top guys had that mindset. They want to race legit guys and beat them.

Champions don't want you to let them win, your brat 5 year old nephew does. 

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8/14/2024 1:14pm
DonM wrote:

Good for Eli...scores a big check to race some meaningless off season races...

Gate drops to prep for 25’ 👌🏼

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8/14/2024 1:17pm
McG194 wrote:

Apparently, the rumors of WSX's demise have been greatly exaggerated. 

HonDawg17 wrote:
If WSX keeps having to pay the racers JUST to show up and also let the racers KEEP the winnings...They will be broke after this year...

If WSX keeps having to pay the racers JUST to show up and also let the racers KEEP the winnings...They will be broke after this year, AGAIN. Their business model is complete garbage. Just because you throw money at someone and they agree to it, doesn't make the series valid. If a fair race was forking out money like this, the racers would still agree to show up. None of the AMA racers have to be bribed to race their series because it IS THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP OF SUPERCROSS AND MOTOCROSS.

If one things for sure, we can always count on nrosso31 to be inordinately pissed off about something.

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8/14/2024 1:18pm
kxking wrote:
Ummm in case you missed it, ALL of the top guys racing AMA SX are getting a paycheck just to show up and they get to...

Ummm in case you missed it, ALL of the top guys racing AMA SX are getting a paycheck just to show up and they get to keep their race winnings.

Next argument please?

LungButter wrote:

Ummmm

That's not really an apples to apples comparison, you understand that right?

Remember that this is the same guy that said Sexton looked slow in the 125 video. 

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Magoofan wrote:
No offense....    but if you want to call wSX "racing"....have at it.          It's not  racing in my book.Tomac/Roczen....

No offense....    but if you want to call wSX "racing"....have at it.          It's not  racing in my book.

Tomac/Roczen....

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Do you ever get tired of being the most downvoted person on this site? 😝

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Tight small arenacross tracks are not best suited for Tomac. 

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DonM wrote:

Good for Eli...scores a big check to race some meaningless off season races...

No more meaningless than smx , if anything ken definitely and  Eli are probably making more from wsx 

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The WSX format still favoure Roczen pretty good with shorter motos and tracks that don’t get as rough as in the US.

He will have a better chance against Eli at WSX than regular SX.

But both of them are at the tail end of their careers and will probably enjoy travel togeather, earn some cash and take it for what it is. Im pretty sure that the WSX title is the last championship any of them will win. 

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DonM wrote:

Good for Eli...scores a big check to race some meaningless off season races...

64smoker wrote:

No more meaningless than smx , if anything ken definitely and  Eli are probably making more from wsx 

LOL! you make me laugh....isn't that what I said he scores a big check...now to say it's even close to SMX is ridiculous...

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8/14/2024 1:31pm
Magoofan wrote:

Frankly.....wSX is completely beneath Tomac (and Kenny).       It's a dog and pony show for them to be there. 

 

At least they’re getting paid and we get to see some gate drops during the off season. Win win 🤗

Magoofan wrote:
No offense....    but if you want to call wSX "racing"....have at it.          It's not  racing in my book.Tomac/Roczen....

No offense....    but if you want to call wSX "racing"....have at it.          It's not  racing in my book.

Tomac/Roczen....

i-3ec05ebf13f813e364b2ba58aee4d33a-fishinabarrel-2207276055.jpg?VersionId=vv2d9Rs6.R.WoOfogFcWn6a4v.

Clearly you’ve never heard the phrase “money talks bullshit walks”. I assure you, Tomas doesn’t care what you or anyone here thinks. Will the wire transfer land in his bank account is all that matters. Like anyone here would turn down 250k+ for a weekend of work. 

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8/14/2024 1:36pm
DonM wrote:

Good for Eli...scores a big check to race some meaningless off season races...

64smoker wrote:

No more meaningless than smx , if anything ken definitely and  Eli are probably making more from wsx 

DonM wrote:

LOL! you make me laugh....isn't that what I said he scores a big check...now to say it's even close to SMX is ridiculous...

What does an smx title mean ? I get it the lower riders can make money at it but supercross and motocross titles is where it’s at being a ‘smx’ champion don’t mean shit  , there’s definatley nobody getting 2 mil for competing it a 3 round smx  series , I’ll watch both but I don’t think either carry much clout currently 

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8/14/2024 1:40pm Edited Date/Time 8/14/2024 1:44pm
McG194 wrote:

Apparently, the rumors of WSX's demise have been greatly exaggerated. 

HonDawg17 wrote:
If WSX keeps having to pay the racers JUST to show up and also let the racers KEEP the winnings...They will be broke after this year...

If WSX keeps having to pay the racers JUST to show up and also let the racers KEEP the winnings...They will be broke after this year, AGAIN. Their business model is complete garbage. Just because you throw money at someone and they agree to it, doesn't make the series valid. If a fair race was forking out money like this, the racers would still agree to show up. None of the AMA racers have to be bribed to race their series because it IS THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP OF SUPERCROSS AND MOTOCROSS.

kxking wrote:
Ummm in case you missed it, ALL of the top guys racing AMA SX are getting a paycheck just to show up and they get to...

Ummm in case you missed it, ALL of the top guys racing AMA SX are getting a paycheck just to show up and they get to keep their race winnings.

Next argument please?

Bro...you clearly don't understand what the difference is between getting paid by the Promoter directly to show up at their race and collect winnings VS paying an entry fee to race a series in which YOUR TEAM is paying for you to race and collect winnings.

Next mindless comeback please...
 

Edit: Here I'll spell it out simpler. Feld Entertainment is NOT paying riders to show up to their Supercross series. They do offer a purse for your finish in the race. WSX is paying to get them to show up AND they're paying them the purse money. See the difference?

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64smoker wrote:

No more meaningless than smx , if anything ken definitely and  Eli are probably making more from wsx 

DonM wrote:

LOL! you make me laugh....isn't that what I said he scores a big check...now to say it's even close to SMX is ridiculous...

64smoker wrote:
What does an smx title mean ? I get it the lower riders can make money at it but supercross and motocross titles is where it’s...

What does an smx title mean ? I get it the lower riders can make money at it but supercross and motocross titles is where it’s at being a ‘smx’ champion don’t mean shit  , there’s definatley nobody getting 2 mil for competing it a 3 round smx  series , I’ll watch both but I don’t think either carry much clout currently 

Who's getting paid $2m? What does an SMX title mean? well  it means you have raced in 28 races and two championship series just to qualify to race and you actually have to beat the best of the best to win the championship and the $1M not to mention the $100K per win....In WSX Eli and Kenny get to race against guys they normally lap...WSX is now exactly what it should have been to begin with...a good little off season series that gives journey men privateers an opportunity to make some extra money and for guys like Kenny and Eli a place to get gate drops and make some extra money for just showing up in the twilight of their careers...

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Magoofan wrote:
No offense....    but if you want to call wSX "racing"....have at it.          It's not  racing in my book.Tomac/Roczen....

No offense....    but if you want to call wSX "racing"....have at it.          It's not  racing in my book.

Tomac/Roczen....

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RACING wrote:

Let's just say that Tomac vs Roczen makes for a better pitch than Roczen vs himself.

 

True that.

 

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8/14/2024 2:08pm Edited Date/Time 8/14/2024 2:09pm
DonM wrote:

LOL! you make me laugh....isn't that what I said he scores a big check...now to say it's even close to SMX is ridiculous...

64smoker wrote:
What does an smx title mean ? I get it the lower riders can make money at it but supercross and motocross titles is where it’s...

What does an smx title mean ? I get it the lower riders can make money at it but supercross and motocross titles is where it’s at being a ‘smx’ champion don’t mean shit  , there’s definatley nobody getting 2 mil for competing it a 3 round smx  series , I’ll watch both but I don’t think either carry much clout currently 

DonM wrote:
Who's getting paid $2m? What does an SMX title mean? well  it means you have raced in 28 races and two championship series just to qualify...

Who's getting paid $2m? What does an SMX title mean? well  it means you have raced in 28 races and two championship series just to qualify to race and you actually have to beat the best of the best to win the championship and the $1M not to mention the $100K per win....In WSX Eli and Kenny get to race against guys they normally lap...WSX is now exactly what it should have been to begin with...a good little off season series that gives journey men privateers an opportunity to make some extra money and for guys like Kenny and Eli a place to get gate drops and make some extra money for just showing up in the twilight of their careers...

Kens got a 3 year 6 million dollar contract , and like I said there’s a motocross champion there’s a supercross champion that smx title don’t mean shit 

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Prep for Anaheim 1. 

Might as well start with the 2025 bike now.

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Magoofan wrote:
No offense....    but if you want to call wSX "racing"....have at it.          It's not  racing in my book.Tomac/Roczen....

No offense....    but if you want to call wSX "racing"....have at it.          It's not  racing in my book.

Tomac/Roczen....

i-3ec05ebf13f813e364b2ba58aee4d33a-fishinabarrel-2207276055.jpg?VersionId=vv2d9Rs6.R.WoOfogFcWn6a4v.

Do you ever get tired of being the most downvoted person on this site? 😝

Most downvoted?....I can only aspire to achieve that title....     but I'm diligently working on it. 

But if all you want is group-think with no differing opinions in a message forum....you're shit-outta-luck.

Wanna-beSX is a joke....has been from day one.       Throwing Tomac and Roczen into it makes it even more of a joke.

 

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Lets first see if those races happen.  It might be a desperate attempt to gain legitimacy.  Cant blame Tomac.  Rake in what you can before its too late.

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LungButter wrote:

Woah...I bet Kenny is pissed.

 

KurtJ99 wrote:

I think Kenny is happy to have the competition; he isn't afraid of it. A win against Eli > win against Friese. 

Yep. And it's the best practice they can get for the actual SX season, which is both of their main goals anyway. This is a win win for everyone.

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