Where is all the hate for Antsie backing out of the MXDN…

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Max said it is very unlikely he will race the MXDN…because Team GB won’t pay Star what they want…

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8/11/2024 8:23pm

So he didn't back out. Got it.

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But if it was Deegan…this place would explode…

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I can tell u why there isn’t any hate for max , cause some are sheep & its not popular to hate on somebody likable as max! ppl gotta keep the same standard of praise & criticism for everybody 

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This just gives Deegan more benefit of the doubt about Star not wanting to send a team last year vs. him not wanting to go, although I believe there was a bit of influence on the decision from both sides. 

Deegan not racing the MXoN is not where any of my personal criticisms about him come from though. 

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aeffertz wrote:
This just gives Deegan more benefit of the doubt about Star not wanting to send a team last year vs. him not wanting to go, although...

This just gives Deegan more benefit of the doubt about Star not wanting to send a team last year vs. him not wanting to go, although I believe there was a bit of influence on the decision from both sides. 

Deegan not racing the MXoN is not where any of my personal criticisms about him come from though. 

Didn’t help that multiple media outlets reported that Deegan told them he didn’t want to go unless he was part of a team that was actually capable of winning. 

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I can tell u why there isn’t any hate for max , cause some are sheep & its not popular to hate on somebody likable as...

I can tell u why there isn’t any hate for max , cause some are sheep & its not popular to hate on somebody likable as max! ppl gotta keep the same standard of praise & criticism for everybody 

Wait until the anti-American crowd wakes up….

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Bummer since it is home race for GB. Maybe if we hadn’t tossed all that tea in Boston Harbor they’d have a shilling or two to help Max/Star out. 

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aeffertz wrote:
This just gives Deegan more benefit of the doubt about Star not wanting to send a team last year vs. him not wanting to go, although...

This just gives Deegan more benefit of the doubt about Star not wanting to send a team last year vs. him not wanting to go, although I believe there was a bit of influence on the decision from both sides. 

Deegan not racing the MXoN is not where any of my personal criticisms about him come from though. 

Didn’t help that multiple media outlets reported that Deegan told them he didn’t want to go unless he was part of a team that was actually...

Didn’t help that multiple media outlets reported that Deegan told them he didn’t want to go unless he was part of a team that was actually capable of winning. 

Yeah okay, I'm having a fuzzy memory of whether it was Deegan that didn't want to go because it wasn't a "winning team" or if it was Star that didn't want to after all that. Like I said, I have a feeling both parties weren't that interested if they knew they were taking a knife to a gun fight.

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aeffertz wrote:
This just gives Deegan more benefit of the doubt about Star not wanting to send a team last year vs. him not wanting to go, although...

This just gives Deegan more benefit of the doubt about Star not wanting to send a team last year vs. him not wanting to go, although I believe there was a bit of influence on the decision from both sides. 

Deegan not racing the MXoN is not where any of my personal criticisms about him come from though. 

Didn’t help that multiple media outlets reported that Deegan told them he didn’t want to go unless he was part of a team that was actually...

Didn’t help that multiple media outlets reported that Deegan told them he didn’t want to go unless he was part of a team that was actually capable of winning. 

Lewis asked deegan about mxon in press day interviews this week and his entire answer was I need to see who else is going. Max said he wants to go but star and GB need to come to an agreement. If you can't see the difference between those two answers then I can't help you. 

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DonM wrote:

Max said it is very unlikely he will race the MXDN…because Team GB won’t pay Star what they want…

I've got none. Max has been going through some personal things with his child, so on top of the Star issues I dont blame him. He's a genuine dude and I'm glad he's racing here. 

I'm sure the UK is proud of him, too. 

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DonM wrote:

But if it was Deegan…this place would explode…

This is true. 

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8/11/2024 9:19pm

has Ansite been on the podium waving  a Union Jack saying how much he loves Great Britan?

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8/11/2024 9:22pm
DonM wrote:

Max said it is very unlikely he will race the MXDN…because Team GB won’t pay Star what they want…

There must be more to it than that. I mean the industy in the UK can chip in to make it happen. Anstie is a great dude and he has huge support in the UK. Surely a compromise can be reached.

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It's been explained over and over the reason Deegan gets criticised is because he was going on the podium and using patriotic rhetoric, which you would think meant he'd be first in line to represent his country.. 

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DonM wrote:

Max said it is very unlikely he will race the MXDN…because Team GB won’t pay Star what they want…

There is none because he didn't back out. Reread your own sentence, not enough funding is not Max backing out of it.

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DonM wrote:

Max said it is very unlikely he will race the MXDN…because Team GB won’t pay Star what they want…

There is none because he didn't back out. Reread your own sentence, not enough funding is not Max backing out of it.

This.

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The Vital double-standard rears it's ugly head once again....  😂

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stewie94 wrote:
I can tell u why there isn’t any hate for max , cause some are sheep & its not popular to hate on somebody likable as...

I can tell u why there isn’t any hate for max , cause some are sheep & its not popular to hate on somebody likable as max! ppl gotta keep the same standard of praise & criticism for everybody 

DonM wrote:

Wait until the anti-American crowd wakes up….

Morning...

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Plenty of Americans have also backed out of the MXdN in recent years without drawing too much heat. The issue isn't that Deegan backed out, it's that he backed out after spending all summer playing up the patriotism. Aaron Plessinger does something similar, but he answers the call when asked. Deegan just seems so fake to me.

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8/11/2024 11:51pm Edited Date/Time 8/12/2024 12:01am
DonM wrote:

But if it was Deegan…this place would explode…

It all goes back to this (see pic).  If Anstie had recently stood up on the podium and made hyper nationalist comments designed to shit on the Lawrences - then decided not to go the MXDN (for whatever reason) - he would have got shit.  However, leaving that aside - and if we believe the whole reason for Deegan and now Anstie not going is Star Racing - perhaps we should start shitting all over Star Racing instead.  I bet they're all about the USA in their attitudes and comments, just not when it comes to actually representing it.  And no, I'm not anti-American.  You can be anti-certain American individuals, institutions, and companies without being anti-the US.  I think the USA is an incredible country. Star Racing on the other hand is suspect. 

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Bummer since it is home race for GB. Maybe if we hadn’t tossed all that tea in Boston Harbor they’d have a shilling or two to...

Bummer since it is home race for GB. Maybe if we hadn’t tossed all that tea in Boston Harbor they’d have a shilling or two to help Max/Star out. 

Can one of the moto 'journalists' find out what Star is charging and for what - broken down item by item?  Then we can more fairly appraise the situation.  

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aeffertz wrote:
This just gives Deegan more benefit of the doubt about Star not wanting to send a team last year vs. him not wanting to go, although...

This just gives Deegan more benefit of the doubt about Star not wanting to send a team last year vs. him not wanting to go, although I believe there was a bit of influence on the decision from both sides. 

Deegan not racing the MXoN is not where any of my personal criticisms about him come from though. 

Didn’t help that multiple media outlets reported that Deegan told them he didn’t want to go unless he was part of a team that was actually...

Didn’t help that multiple media outlets reported that Deegan told them he didn’t want to go unless he was part of a team that was actually capable of winning. 

aeffertz wrote:
Yeah okay, I'm having a fuzzy memory of whether it was Deegan that didn't want to go because it wasn't a "winning team" or if it...

Yeah okay, I'm having a fuzzy memory of whether it was Deegan that didn't want to go because it wasn't a "winning team" or if it was Star that didn't want to after all that. Like I said, I have a feeling both parties weren't that interested if they knew they were taking a knife to a gun fight.

Matthes clearly said the Deegans didn't want to go unless they could win. A couple of weeks later others started reporting Star didn't want to go for the same reason. In both cases it was not patriotic behaviour. 

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Deegan would have enough loose change to fund hhimself to go over

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DonM wrote:

Max said it is very unlikely he will race the MXDN…because Team GB won’t pay Star what they want…

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There must be more to it than that. I mean the industy in the UK can chip in to make it happen. Anstie is a great...

There must be more to it than that. I mean the industy in the UK can chip in to make it happen. Anstie is a great dude and he has huge support in the UK. Surely a compromise can be reached.

Knowing Anstie and the history of Team GB and the history of star, I suspect the blame should be squarely pointed at Star Racing. It's clear they have a reputation for cunty behaviour. 

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DonM wrote:

Max said it is very unlikely he will race the MXDN…because Team GB won’t pay Star what they want…

Boomslang wrote:
There must be more to it than that. I mean the industy in the UK can chip in to make it happen. Anstie is a great...

There must be more to it than that. I mean the industy in the UK can chip in to make it happen. Anstie is a great dude and he has huge support in the UK. Surely a compromise can be reached.

They want over 3 times the budget that ACU had. Sure they can probably, maybe find more money through fund raisers but this screams yet again US teams doing the MXdN in the most expensive and difficult way.

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He could easily source a YZ in the UK to ride but I'm guessing that his contract says he can only ride a Star bike.

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DonM wrote:

Wait until the anti-American crowd wakes up….

You sure send out some positive vibes around here…

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DonM wrote:

But if it was Deegan…this place would explode…

Did you really start a thread about Anstie so you could talk about Deegan? 😂

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I would love to see the Budgets of the different teams competing.

Exclude the home team obviously.

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I would love to see the Budgets of the different teams competing.

Exclude the home team obviously.

Team Canada budget for Ernee 2023.

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