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Local boy Carson Asay won the 125C class this year, against solid competition, with very consistent 3-1-3 finishes. He did so from the Alternate pool, not via qualifying via the "normal" route. So first off, massive congrats to him and his family, and their trainer Mike Smith (The Clinic MX) on a job well done! We race Carson regularly, and while he usually beats my boy, I didn't see this coming at all!
How common/rare is it for an alternate to go all the way and win a title at LL?
Woah, that's pretty cool!
As I recall it has happened a few times
Now that’s the kind of “never quit” attitude more of us could use… well done, Carson!
I was told that the only 2 others to win from the Alternate Pool were Malcom Stewart and Ryan Dungey. If true, that's pretty good company!!!
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That’s “Rad!” If you know you know. Ahha
Doesn’t matter how you got there when its time to draw your start spoon.
Not sure about Malcolm, but when Ryan won his only title at the ranch, he won all but 1 schoolboy stk/mod moto at 2 AQ's and 1 RQ. Pretty sure he was not an alternate, For what it is worth, he also had impressive results in the 125B stk/mod classes racing his RM-125 against a bunch of 250F's at the areas and regionals.
That's really cool. Kid's gotta be on cloud nine! Congrats on a job well done!
Carson showed up at PiR last night and he was a celebrity for sure. He didn't race but it was cool to see him enjoying the accolades a LL National Title earn. I'm sure it'll be back to the grind this weekend.
Malcolm never won a title at Loretta’s, so take him out of the equation.
https://llvault.racerxonline.com/rider/malcolm-stewart/races
How long has Carson been racing ? Did he start on mini bikes or has he just started racing recently ? Congrats to him, that’s not an easy task. Racing at the ranch is stressful and the weather can change things in a hurry. Good weather this year was awesome.
I see these kids on 50’s, 60’s and 80’s with trainers and riding coaches , along with kids in the C class doing the same and I’m sure glad this wasn’t a thing when my son was racing amateur motocross. If the family is not well off, it’s tough for a kid to compete with the kids who have the financial backing.
I tried some searches to see if there was an (easy) way to find out who's won as an Alternate, and failed. I also heard Cooper Webb won as an alternate but who knows? There can't be too many that have earned a National Title from the Alternate pool!
Carson's been on dirt bikes for years but I'm not sure of his race background. We've been racing against him since 85cc days (I'd say he's beaten my boy 75% or more of the time). I know he had a bad crash in late 22 and came back from I believe a broken pelvis. He's generally quick at the races where we line up with him, but not a consensus "top rider" in the PNW. There were other PNW kids at LL24 that most considered as having a better shot, which only makes his win that much sweeter! He surely stepped up and seized the moment!
His trainer is a solid dude, and he's made it clear that while this was a great result, exceeding his expectations by a good bit, it's what happens in the next year that will set the tone. Once could be a fluke, and twice a coincidence, but 3 times is a pattern. Mini Os, AZ, Spring a Ding will be the proving grounds.
Bryan Emig in 2000 won the Four Stroke class from the alternate pool. He was first alternate, I was second. I qualified directly for 25+ and had hoped to get in that class as well. I can assure you I wouldn’t have won from the alternate pool 😂
Dungey was definitely not an alternate in the year he won his title. He killed everyone at regionals that year. Dude was on another level
Who beat him at Red Bud?
Dennis Jonan won both 125B stk and mod at Red Bud that year, Ryan was on his 125 against a field of 250F's.
Well, this clearly means you need to sell your house and invest in your boy. The only reason he hasn't won is because he's racing against a LL champ!
Mine turned 18 last week. College this Fall, Air Force next Spring, advanced fighter avionics. I do hope to get him into the Masterpool compound since his tech school is 1:15 away and he will be there for 6-7 months with weekends off. He’s a late bloomer type and I think by 20 he might really have some speed. If he can stay off the ground.
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Nice work for the kid!
Our local kid here in WNC did really well in 250C and 450C as well. I dont know him or his family, but David Kubec of Flat Rock NC, had some strong finishes and even a 450C moto win at LL's last week too. He had a horrific crash on his last 250C moto and was airlifted afterwards. He has pretty much an entire broken body. I have not seen a video, as i dont watch crash footage, but evidently it was a bad endo with legs getting tangled in the bars. Hopefully he has a full recovery and is still able to compete in the future. 17 years old and is same age as my stepson in high school here.
Dungey was an alternate on mini bikes, possibly his first year at the ranch.
His only title was schoolboy.
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