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do you think these will sell here. we went to a new dealer here and he told us dealing withy KTM is a pain in the ass. he told us they want him to buy 5 other bikes before they will give him one, seems stupid to me
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jmar 5/10/2010 9:50pm
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They will sell.

The 350 will be the perfect bike for the average moto enthusiast.
Spat24 5/10/2010 10:06pm
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Isn't there a rule the bike needs to be sold in the US for someone to race it in the AMA?
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Lightning78 5/10/2010 10:19pm
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jmar wrote:
They will sell.

The 350 will be the perfect bike for the average moto enthusiast.
Jmar you couldn't be more correct on this....that 350 will be as revolutionary as the first YZ400 was.....There is no doubt in my mind at all the KTM350 will be the bike to have for 2011. It will be more than competitive even for the current top riders.....Just think what would happen if KTM signed James Stewart to race that bike......We all remember how dominate he was on a 125 against an entire field of 250f's, I think it would suit his riding style absolutely perfect.
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i don't think they will much, what's the point in a 350 for the average joe? the original 350 idea was directed towards pro sx racing and to counteract what supposedly the 450's were doing to the tracks which resulted in injuries etc etc.

everybody has lost sight of that original fact i guess.

i mean if yer into trail riding and play riding then the bigger the better, 500 or 550 would be choice. super moto...bigger is better. desert....well.

now a 350 2 stroke would be something to look into but i doubt if the ktm 4 banger will be a big deal.

i could be wrong though...say where are the 50 units they have to have in the states so alessi can kick ass. and i still say he will not be racing a 350 ktm until i see him on one at hangtown practice...Wink then i'll believe it.

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loftyair 5/10/2010 10:39pm
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it's gonna be a block-buster. The other 4 will follow suit very quick, or see their sales go to ktm. Ktm used to be more expensive and hard to find parts for, now they are equal in those areas and higher in the quality department. Did Honda screw up or what pushing the 4-stroke, they thought they were gonna dominate, but they've been getting dominated, at least comparatively to their past. The smartest company will come out with a small big-bore 2 stroke, with reverse cylinder, direct inject, electric start, and all that jazz.
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Chili 5/10/2010 10:59pm
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One of the KTM dealers up here is already taking deposits, only $9799 and you can be on the list!
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motowhore 5/10/2010 11:18pm
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KTM already commands the highest prices, and this bike will be very hard to get.
People forget how huge KTM is offroad here in the states already
TripleFive 5/10/2010 11:20pm
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I've herd they're coming out with ktm 200fs....
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loftyair wrote:
it's gonna be a block-buster. The other 4 will follow suit very quick, or see their sales go to ktm. Ktm used to be more expensive...
it's gonna be a block-buster. The other 4 will follow suit very quick, or see their sales go to ktm. Ktm used to be more expensive and hard to find parts for, now they are equal in those areas and higher in the quality department. Did Honda screw up or what pushing the 4-stroke, they thought they were gonna dominate, but they've been getting dominated, at least comparatively to their past. The smartest company will come out with a small big-bore 2 stroke, with reverse cylinder, direct inject, electric start, and all that jazz.
I doubt they will follow suit quickly if they do at all. At least not in a moto version. I don't think there are a whole lot of MX guys who would enjoy being 100cc down or on a KTM! haha!!! Everyone thought all the mfgs would also follow suit with the CRF150R....hmmmm....
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Ashleymx 5/10/2010 11:40pm
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At first I thought it was the only one getting the linkage but they all are. I wanted one simply to have the latest greatest thing out. (iPad is still coming lol) I'll stick with a 250f now though as I simply cant use any more power than I have. Electric start would have been nice to have I guess, but then again my 250f starts first kick every time anyway.
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sharkey wrote:
do you think these will sell here. we went to a new dealer here and he told us dealing withy KTM is a pain in the...
do you think these will sell here. we went to a new dealer here and he told us dealing withy KTM is a pain in the ass. he told us they want him to buy 5 other bikes before they will give him one, seems stupid to me
This 350 is going to be a awesome bike. It will be the hardest bike to find and buy in motocross over the next 2 to 3 yrs.
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I heard they got a place to put your jelly babies!
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i don't think they will much, what's the point in a 350 for the average joe? the original 350 idea was directed towards pro sx racing...
i don't think they will much, what's the point in a 350 for the average joe? the original 350 idea was directed towards pro sx racing and to counteract what supposedly the 450's were doing to the tracks which resulted in injuries etc etc.

everybody has lost sight of that original fact i guess.

i mean if yer into trail riding and play riding then the bigger the better, 500 or 550 would be choice. super moto...bigger is better. desert....well.

now a 350 2 stroke would be something to look into but i doubt if the ktm 4 banger will be a big deal.

i could be wrong though...say where are the 50 units they have to have in the states so alessi can kick ass. and i still say he will not be racing a 350 ktm until i see him on one at hangtown practice...Wink then i'll believe it.
I'd love to know more about "the original 350 idea" if anybody can point me at a thread or link. I'm sort of fascinated to see if less is more under the right conditions.

If the idea was to save the track from the 450s, that's going to take a rules change. And it wouldn't be the first time a rules change just happened to make every body go out and buy new technology. That always rubs me the wrong way, but serious racers seem to upgrade almost every season anyway. The problem is that the old bikes become (even more) worthless.

But it couldn't be bad to bring parity back for the 2strokes, IMHO. So that means raising the 2stroke displacement, or dropping the 4stroke displacement. Since most of the fleet out there is thumpers, raising the 2stroke limit would create fewer defunct bikes. Large bore 2strokes are fun.

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BobbyM wrote:
i don't think they will much, what's the point in a 350 for the average joe? the original 350 idea was directed towards pro sx racing...
i don't think they will much, what's the point in a 350 for the average joe? the original 350 idea was directed towards pro sx racing and to counteract what supposedly the 450's were doing to the tracks which resulted in injuries etc etc.

everybody has lost sight of that original fact i guess.

i mean if yer into trail riding and play riding then the bigger the better, 500 or 550 would be choice. super moto...bigger is better. desert....well.

now a 350 2 stroke would be something to look into but i doubt if the ktm 4 banger will be a big deal.

i could be wrong though...say where are the 50 units they have to have in the states so alessi can kick ass. and i still say he will not be racing a 350 ktm until i see him on one at hangtown practice...Wink then i'll believe it.
clueless comments!
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Let me get this straight you think after we buy a 450, get a pipe, put cams in it, remap ignitions, race gas etc..... to make the damn things faster you think we are all going to go buy a 350. At 200 Lbs (me that is) I'll keep my 4fitty throwing rocks at you all the way to the first corner and out of every other one thanks.
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loftyair wrote:
it's gonna be a block-buster. The other 4 will follow suit very quick, or see their sales go to ktm. Ktm used to be more expensive...
it's gonna be a block-buster. The other 4 will follow suit very quick, or see their sales go to ktm. Ktm used to be more expensive and hard to find parts for, now they are equal in those areas and higher in the quality department. Did Honda screw up or what pushing the 4-stroke, they thought they were gonna dominate, but they've been getting dominated, at least comparatively to their past. The smartest company will come out with a small big-bore 2 stroke, with reverse cylinder, direct inject, electric start, and all that jazz.
dude.. you lost me at small big-bore 2 stroke.
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dcg141 5/11/2010 7:13am
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To get 350's you have to take a package of MX bikes. You can't just order off road bikes and the 350. It has some dealers upset but the package is reasonable IMO. Probably the biggest sticking point is you have to take quite a few 250F's in the deal. But the 250 is going to be fuel injected and will have the new frame...I'm hoping the 250 will come w e-start. but there are no specifics on the bikes just yet. I'm sure some off road guys will look at both bikes. 250F's are very fast in eastern tight woods. My inventory is way down and I even ordered some leftover 10's and 09's. The dealer meeting is at Pala in 3 weeks and I will post on here the day we get to ride the new bikes. I'm a regular MXer but an old one so I can a least give you a Vets point of view. I'm just happy than we are generating this much excitement for KTM on an MX message board.
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BobbyM wrote:
i don't think they will much, what's the point in a 350 for the average joe? the original 350 idea was directed towards pro sx racing...
i don't think they will much, what's the point in a 350 for the average joe? the original 350 idea was directed towards pro sx racing and to counteract what supposedly the 450's were doing to the tracks which resulted in injuries etc etc.

everybody has lost sight of that original fact i guess.

i mean if yer into trail riding and play riding then the bigger the better, 500 or 550 would be choice. super moto...bigger is better. desert....well.

now a 350 2 stroke would be something to look into but i doubt if the ktm 4 banger will be a big deal.

i could be wrong though...say where are the 50 units they have to have in the states so alessi can kick ass. and i still say he will not be racing a 350 ktm until i see him on one at hangtown practice...Wink then i'll believe it.
Partially wrong, the whole reason behind the 350 is usable power. The onyl people who can ride a 450 to its full potential are RV CR JS RD. Other than that, NO ONE can ride a 450 like its supposed to be ridden. You think you might be using all the power on the 450, your not, that bike is for lazy people IMO. The 350 gives more usable power.

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MXEditor 5/11/2010 7:44am
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350 should be lighter and more on par with a 250 2-stroke, so in that respect it may be a real hit....
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The big 4 haven't followed many of ktm's innovations other than premium bars. Can't see them jumping on the 350 bandwagon real soon. We'll see.
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ehr400 5/11/2010 7:51am
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There is a reason why KTM sells more bikes then Kawi/ Suz. combined. They are building what people want. I love the hyd. clutches and the brakes on the KTM's. I think they handle great and the e-start is sweet, and weighs less then 3 of the 4 jap bikes. 450 wise.
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I really don't care too much about the 350...its interesting but I highly doubt I would ever opt for one over a 450.

Is KTM putting the new frame/linkage on the 450 as well for 2011?
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BobbyM wrote:
i don't think they will much, what's the point in a 350 for the average joe? the original 350 idea was directed towards pro sx racing...
i don't think they will much, what's the point in a 350 for the average joe? the original 350 idea was directed towards pro sx racing and to counteract what supposedly the 450's were doing to the tracks which resulted in injuries etc etc.

everybody has lost sight of that original fact i guess.

i mean if yer into trail riding and play riding then the bigger the better, 500 or 550 would be choice. super moto...bigger is better. desert....well.

now a 350 2 stroke would be something to look into but i doubt if the ktm 4 banger will be a big deal.

i could be wrong though...say where are the 50 units they have to have in the states so alessi can kick ass. and i still say he will not be racing a 350 ktm until i see him on one at hangtown practice...Wink then i'll believe it.
sxf138 wrote:
Partially wrong, the whole reason behind the 350 is usable power. The onyl people who can ride a 450 to its full potential are RV CR...
Partially wrong, the whole reason behind the 350 is usable power. The onyl people who can ride a 450 to its full potential are RV CR JS RD. Other than that, NO ONE can ride a 450 like its supposed to be ridden. You think you might be using all the power on the 450, your not, that bike is for lazy people IMO. The 350 gives more usable power.
Let me just add to that, besides the very top guys, very few can use all that power for a FULL moto, and lets face it, it's not really about the power, it is more about the handling, that 350 will be much easier to hang on to t race pace for a full moto, it is said to be more "250F-like" in the way that it feels, and if those claims are true, then the bike will be a real hit, even for the same guys who buy and modify 450s, when they realize speed around a motocross track doesn't come from power alone, they will be sold on it too.

As a side note, if we want to get really ridiculous, lets remember how RV used to get some of the same lap times as the 450s outdoors back when he was on 250Fs only a couple years ago, let's also not forget how he spanked everyone at the MXDN at Budds Creek (on an apparently "underpowered 250F"). Now with that being said, put James Stewart on a 350, or more realistically, another small guy like Alessi (who will be on one) and i don't see why they couldn't do serious damage on it. One more thing, over in Europe the bike is being raced by Cairoli who is no slouch and neither is his competition, and we all know whats happening over there already.

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loftyair wrote:
it's gonna be a block-buster. The other 4 will follow suit very quick, or see their sales go to ktm. Ktm used to be more expensive...
it's gonna be a block-buster. The other 4 will follow suit very quick, or see their sales go to ktm. Ktm used to be more expensive and hard to find parts for, now they are equal in those areas and higher in the quality department. Did Honda screw up or what pushing the 4-stroke, they thought they were gonna dominate, but they've been getting dominated, at least comparatively to their past. The smartest company will come out with a small big-bore 2 stroke, with reverse cylinder, direct inject, electric start, and all that jazz.
Honda is getting dominated?


Have you been to any local track in America on any weekend? Tell me what color you see...
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loftyair wrote:
it's gonna be a block-buster. The other 4 will follow suit very quick, or see their sales go to ktm. Ktm used to be more expensive...
it's gonna be a block-buster. The other 4 will follow suit very quick, or see their sales go to ktm. Ktm used to be more expensive and hard to find parts for, now they are equal in those areas and higher in the quality department. Did Honda screw up or what pushing the 4-stroke, they thought they were gonna dominate, but they've been getting dominated, at least comparatively to their past. The smartest company will come out with a small big-bore 2 stroke, with reverse cylinder, direct inject, electric start, and all that jazz.
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I doubt they will follow suit quickly if they do at all. At least not in a moto version. I don't think there are a whole...
I doubt they will follow suit quickly if they do at all. At least not in a moto version. I don't think there are a whole lot of MX guys who would enjoy being 100cc down or on a KTM! haha!!! Everyone thought all the mfgs would also follow suit with the CRF150R....hmmmm....
Must have never had a ktm, the craftsmanship and quality are better than Honda, which is better than the rest. Oh, I never thought that anyone would follow suit with the 150, so...Honda was trying to capitalize on the 'good' economy at the time, and the ignorant public response to 4-strokes being better.
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loftyair 5/11/2010 8:44am
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loftyair wrote:
it's gonna be a block-buster. The other 4 will follow suit very quick, or see their sales go to ktm. Ktm used to be more expensive...
it's gonna be a block-buster. The other 4 will follow suit very quick, or see their sales go to ktm. Ktm used to be more expensive and hard to find parts for, now they are equal in those areas and higher in the quality department. Did Honda screw up or what pushing the 4-stroke, they thought they were gonna dominate, but they've been getting dominated, at least comparatively to their past. The smartest company will come out with a small big-bore 2 stroke, with reverse cylinder, direct inject, electric start, and all that jazz.
Agent717 wrote:
Honda is getting dominated?


Have you been to any local track in America on any weekend? Tell me what color you see...
A bit of every color, yes, there still a good buy for the weekend warrior. I meant in the racing arena, the top tier, not just moto-x either. And I also said 'comparatively to their past'. The tracks are pleasantly rainbow colored, instead of so bloody now.
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loftyair 5/11/2010 8:47am
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loftyair wrote:
it's gonna be a block-buster. The other 4 will follow suit very quick, or see their sales go to ktm. Ktm used to be more expensive...
it's gonna be a block-buster. The other 4 will follow suit very quick, or see their sales go to ktm. Ktm used to be more expensive and hard to find parts for, now they are equal in those areas and higher in the quality department. Did Honda screw up or what pushing the 4-stroke, they thought they were gonna dominate, but they've been getting dominated, at least comparatively to their past. The smartest company will come out with a small big-bore 2 stroke, with reverse cylinder, direct inject, electric start, and all that jazz.
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dude.. you lost me at small big-bore 2 stroke.
haha, no expression with writing. Somewhere between 250cc and 500cc. Like a small big-bore. Oops, I did it again!
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Adam43 wrote:
I really don't care too much about the 350...its interesting but I highly doubt I would ever opt for one over a 450. Is KTM putting...
I really don't care too much about the 350...its interesting but I highly doubt I would ever opt for one over a 450.

Is KTM putting the new frame/linkage on the 450 as well for 2011?
As far as I know, yes. All of the sx-f models.
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clueless comments!
i didn't say they were actual solutions...just that it was part of "master" plan by the europeans partnering with american promoters(or soon to be euro promoter/american based world promoter). TFS explained it all...remember tony? hahahaha.....

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