He Was Concussed

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Edited Date/Time 7/7/2024 4:32am

Huntah admitted so but here we are and crickets. Where is the “over the top” Vital head injury mob on this one?

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MxAddic wrote:

Huntah admitted so but here we are and crickets. Where is the “over the top” Vital head injury mob on this one?

What do you think we should do? Disqualify him? Send him to his room? Burn him at the stake?

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That's why you never admit anything to anyone. Open yourself to the critics

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Huntah admitted so but here we are and crickets. Where is the “over the top” Vital head injury mob on this one?

What do you think we should do? Disqualify him? Send him to his room? Burn him at the stake?

One of two things:

A- Drag him through the mud like they have other riders for riding in that condition

B- STFU about the other riders and let them and the real Dr’s decide because Dr. Vitard ain’t sh!t.

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Should Hunter be allowed to race?

Look for the VitalMX board to reach their normal conclusion on the matter.

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He said he must have banged his head harder than he thought, because he was struggling with blurred vision during the second moto….or words to that effect.
Which means he, and I’m guessing others, thought he was okay to go prior to lining up. So while it certainly sounds like Hunter was experiencing symptoms of a concussion during moto 2, it doesn’t sound like it was a deliberate decision to ignore it and race anyway. Otherwise why would he admit to it?
Let’s just hope it’s short lived and he’s 100% by next weekend.

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Unfortunately…with riders using less protective gear than ever so as not to restrict movement, they open themselves up to more possible injuries from less severe crashes. And although technology is so much better in helmet construction…there is no 100% concussion-proof headgear. 
 

I hope Hunter gets better quickly & can give Sexton a competitive run for the rest of the season.

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What’s your point?

 

He said so himself. Most the time this topic comes up it’s people taking sides if a rider is concussed or not, which causes a Vital polarization. 

 

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He said he must have banged his head harder than he thought, because he was struggling with blurred vision during the second moto….or words to that...

He said he must have banged his head harder than he thought, because he was struggling with blurred vision during the second moto….or words to that effect.
Which means he, and I’m guessing others, thought he was okay to go prior to lining up. So while it certainly sounds like Hunter was experiencing symptoms of a concussion during moto 2, it doesn’t sound like it was a deliberate decision to ignore it and race anyway. Otherwise why would he admit to it?
Let’s just hope it’s short lived and he’s 100% by next weekend.

I highly doubt he had any true concussion screening between motos but I'd be curious to hear if he did. Before football got serious about it guys played with concussions all the time. It was basically a don't ask don't tell policy. That's what moto does now. And as to why he might have admitted it afterwards, it could have just been the concussion talking.

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Unfortunately…with riders using less protective gear than ever so as not to restrict movement, they open themselves up to more possible injuries from less severe crashes...

Unfortunately…with riders using less protective gear than ever so as not to restrict movement, they open themselves up to more possible injuries from less severe crashes. And although technology is so much better in helmet construction…there is no 100% concussion-proof headgear. 
 

I hope Hunter gets better quickly & can give Sexton a competitive run for the rest of the season.

Would not say than ever since they have gone back to wear real chest protectors again.

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Let’s also keep in mind, in 2011 Chad Reed past the strict protocols/concussion tests for the AMA after his Millville Chadipult. He said he was foggy headed months after the crash. 

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Did Jason Anderson miss any races after ringing his bell in SX a few seasons ago

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CPR wrote:
He said he must have banged his head harder than he thought, because he was struggling with blurred vision during the second moto….or words to that...

He said he must have banged his head harder than he thought, because he was struggling with blurred vision during the second moto….or words to that effect.
Which means he, and I’m guessing others, thought he was okay to go prior to lining up. So while it certainly sounds like Hunter was experiencing symptoms of a concussion during moto 2, it doesn’t sound like it was a deliberate decision to ignore it and race anyway. Otherwise why would he admit to it?
Let’s just hope it’s short lived and he’s 100% by next weekend.

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I highly doubt he had any true concussion screening between motos but I'd be curious to hear if he did. Before football got serious about it...

I highly doubt he had any true concussion screening between motos but I'd be curious to hear if he did. Before football got serious about it guys played with concussions all the time. It was basically a don't ask don't tell policy. That's what moto does now. And as to why he might have admitted it afterwards, it could have just been the concussion talking.

Was there any sign in the crash he hit his head?  He jumped right up so not sure why they would test him.  If he had laid there for a bit or swerved all over the track for a lap etc I could see it.  They don't test every rider who falls......

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Was there any sign in the crash he hit his head?  He jumped right up so not sure why they would test him.  If he had...

Was there any sign in the crash he hit his head?  He jumped right up so not sure why they would test him.  If he had laid there for a bit or swerved all over the track for a lap etc I could see it.  They don't test every rider who falls......

Did you see the crash? Pretty sure he smacked his head pretty good. Or maybe I viewed it wrong as I am a 50+ bet rider who has probably hit his head a few times too😀

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Was there any sign in the crash he hit his head?  He jumped right up so not sure why they would test him.  If he had...

Was there any sign in the crash he hit his head?  He jumped right up so not sure why they would test him.  If he had laid there for a bit or swerved all over the track for a lap etc I could see it.  They don't test every rider who falls......

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Did you see the crash? Pretty sure he smacked his head pretty good. Or maybe I viewed it wrong as I am a 50+ bet rider...

Did you see the crash? Pretty sure he smacked his head pretty good. Or maybe I viewed it wrong as I am a 50+ bet rider who has probably hit his head a few times too😀

I did see the crash. He also got right up and continued riding. The medical guys cannot possibly see every crash in every moto and then decide if a test is needed. Would be very different if he appeared knocked out 

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I did see the crash. He also got right up and continued riding. The medical guys cannot possibly see every crash in every moto and then...

I did see the crash. He also got right up and continued riding. The medical guys cannot possibly see every crash in every moto and then decide if a test is needed. Would be very different if he appeared knocked out 

Actually he did appear to be out for a second...

Happens a lot when a fighter gets knocked down for a second and gets right back up. Lots of times they appear stable after.

Not ragging the EMT's, just the vitards.

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Was there any sign in the crash he hit his head?  He jumped right up so not sure why they would test him.  If he had...

Was there any sign in the crash he hit his head?  He jumped right up so not sure why they would test him.  If he had laid there for a bit or swerved all over the track for a lap etc I could see it.  They don't test every rider who falls......

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Did you see the crash? Pretty sure he smacked his head pretty good. Or maybe I viewed it wrong as I am a 50+ bet rider...

Did you see the crash? Pretty sure he smacked his head pretty good. Or maybe I viewed it wrong as I am a 50+ bet rider who has probably hit his head a few times too😀

I did see the crash. He also got right up and continued riding. The medical guys cannot possibly see every crash in every moto and then...

I did see the crash. He also got right up and continued riding. The medical guys cannot possibly see every crash in every moto and then decide if a test is needed. Would be very different if he appeared knocked out 

He wasn't knocked out but you could see his balance and coordination were off for at least a minute or 2 following the crash. He didn't hop right up but took a few seconds for a systems check. When he did get up his coordination was off and he struggled to get the bike up and going cleanly. I have done that almost the same way more than once (well, at MUCH slower speeds!). It's actually why I stopped riding moto - my last 2 crashes were both mild concussions and at my age I had to make the tough risk/reward decision.

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ILoveMoto wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9F4aUTOFVQ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

He definitely hit his head. Hope he gets checked.

6 downvotes - WTF is wrong with you vitards!  Showing the world that Motocrossers in 2024 are full of estrogen

Not a super violent crash. How fast would you estimate he was going? 35 to 45 mph max. The dirt was loaming and soft so I'm sure this helped but at the speed he was moving with his body weight . . . All that inertia stopping instantly and bouncing up off the ground. It was a tough day for Hunter but he handled it like a champ

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It did look like he took a hard knock to his head. I’m sure the team at HRC and his family are looking after him. 

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Should Hunter be allowed to race? Look for the VitalMX board to reach their normal conclusion on the matter.

Should Hunter be allowed to race?

Look for the VitalMX board to reach their normal conclusion on the matter.

He should see a doctor immediately

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He wasn't knocked out but you could see his balance and coordination were off for at least a minute or 2 following the crash. He didn't...

He wasn't knocked out but you could see his balance and coordination were off for at least a minute or 2 following the crash. He didn't hop right up but took a few seconds for a systems check. When he did get up his coordination was off and he struggled to get the bike up and going cleanly. I have done that almost the same way more than once (well, at MUCH slower speeds!). It's actually why I stopped riding moto - my last 2 crashes were both mild concussions and at my age I had to make the tough risk/reward decision.

He certainly took his time. But it was near the end of the moto. Absolutely gassed, deflated you just blew a race win, trying to get up on a hill, ruts + motocross boots, awkwardly upside down, and yeah you just ate shit hard - so probably doing the old ‘is my body in tact?’. 
 

I don’t know if I’d be insinuating his coordination was off. 

 

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ILoveMoto wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9F4aUTOFVQ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

He definitely hit his head. Hope he gets checked.

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6 downvotes - WTF is wrong with you vitards!  Showing the world that Motocrossers in 2024 are full of estrogen Not a super violent crash. How...

6 downvotes - WTF is wrong with you vitards!  Showing the world that Motocrossers in 2024 are full of estrogen

Not a super violent crash. How fast would you estimate he was going? 35 to 45 mph max. The dirt was loaming and soft so I'm sure this helped but at the speed he was moving with his body weight . . . All that inertia stopping instantly and bouncing up off the ground. It was a tough day for Hunter but he handled it like a champ

Hard hit but at least not straight into a whoop or jump at a SX track. Sure he'll get checked out.

Ignore the small fish that swim near me 😉

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He should see a doctor immediately

He should see a doctor immediately

Two really funny guys! 🙂

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ILoveMoto wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9F4aUTOFVQ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

He definitely hit his head. Hope he gets checked.

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6 downvotes - WTF is wrong with you vitards!  Showing the world that Motocrossers in 2024 are full of estrogen Not a super violent crash. How...

6 downvotes - WTF is wrong with you vitards!  Showing the world that Motocrossers in 2024 are full of estrogen

Not a super violent crash. How fast would you estimate he was going? 35 to 45 mph max. The dirt was loaming and soft so I'm sure this helped but at the speed he was moving with his body weight . . . All that inertia stopping instantly and bouncing up off the ground. It was a tough day for Hunter but he handled it like a champ

You’re making some good points…

Also, the “head whip” that happens as he’s thrown fwd and his head whips in front of the number plate -before- being thrown on the ground…that “head whip” can cause the type of injury we’re talking about.

Look, I get that some folks don’t care or just want to move on to the next race or get past this…

But, Hunter “said what he said” and this is a legitimate subject nowadays. We’re learning so much about these injuries as of late and we need to take them seriously. 

I don’t give a shit about peoples opinions. What I do give a shit about is The Big Picture for a young Aussie that’s been a damn good representative for my sport. 

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By this time maybe it would be fitting to use some kind of G sensor on/in the helmets that meassure the impact.

if that reaches a certain number off the track you go for your own saftey (and others).

Could be simular to the G sensor in the moto gp suits that blow up the built in airbag in the skin suit during a crash. 

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Seemed like he was just in an awkward position to get up from after he fell, looked like his shoulder took the brunt of the impact and his helmet just touched the ground. Thats just what I saw.

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6 downvotes - WTF is wrong with you vitards!  Showing the world that Motocrossers in 2024 are full of estrogen Not a super violent crash. How...

6 downvotes - WTF is wrong with you vitards!  Showing the world that Motocrossers in 2024 are full of estrogen

Not a super violent crash. How fast would you estimate he was going? 35 to 45 mph max. The dirt was loaming and soft so I'm sure this helped but at the speed he was moving with his body weight . . . All that inertia stopping instantly and bouncing up off the ground. It was a tough day for Hunter but he handled it like a champ

I actually feel bad for the guy because he was putting in the ride of his life until it wasn't. The truth is he can't match Chase's speed of determination. The track was gnarly, especially the downhills and most of the fast guys had close calls on them.

 One crash like that and your average vitard would be done riding but here we are downplaying it.

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6 downvotes - WTF is wrong with you vitards!  Showing the world that Motocrossers in 2024 are full of estrogen Not a super violent crash. How...

6 downvotes - WTF is wrong with you vitards!  Showing the world that Motocrossers in 2024 are full of estrogen

Not a super violent crash. How fast would you estimate he was going? 35 to 45 mph max. The dirt was loaming and soft so I'm sure this helped but at the speed he was moving with his body weight . . . All that inertia stopping instantly and bouncing up off the ground. It was a tough day for Hunter but he handled it like a champ

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I actually feel bad for the guy because he was putting in the ride of his life until it wasn't. The truth is he can't match...

I actually feel bad for the guy because he was putting in the ride of his life until it wasn't. The truth is he can't match Chase's speed of determination. The track was gnarly, especially the downhills and most of the fast guys had close calls on them.

 One crash like that and your average vitard would be done riding but here we are downplaying it.

Dude you started the topic. Literally no one was talking about it til your vitarded ass tried to stir the pot. 

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Seemed like he was just in an awkward position to get up from after he fell, looked like his shoulder took the brunt of the impact...

Seemed like he was just in an awkward position to get up from after he fell, looked like his shoulder took the brunt of the impact and his helmet just touched the ground. Thats just what I saw.

It that why his head bounced higher than is body?

 

 

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