RD5 vs. MC15

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4/30/2010 1:35pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:31pm
No Contest here boys....




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4/30/2010 1:40pm
Ah man, that vid brings back some memories! Yeap, its a win for MC haha.
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4/30/2010 1:41pm
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You honestly think he wouldn't?
You honestly think he wouldn't?

Funny that pic looks to be from the '93 Nats when MC got handled by Doug Henry. Doug would show at NESC races when he was...
Funny that pic looks to be from the '93 Nats when MC got handled by Doug Henry. Doug would show at NESC races when he was factory Honda. Being 15 at the time and he was a God
Loved the Sinisalo gear from back then. Anybody have any pics of Lamson in the Yoko gear?

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Thats some funny shit.

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4/30/2010 1:52pm
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Let it go bud. Dungey is RD for now and McGrath is the King... I won the same amount of SXs than Emig but I was...
Let it go bud. Dungey is RD for now and McGrath is the King... I won the same amount of SXs than Emig but I was never champ... U forgot to put than MC wished he had RD's bonus in 93... ;-)
jasonv43 wrote:
2000 AMA EA Sports Supercross 1. Jeremy McGrath (372 - Champion) [b]2. David Vuillemin (337) [/b] 3. Mike LaRocco (302) 4. Kevin Windham (278) 5. Ricky...
2000 AMA EA Sports Supercross

1. Jeremy McGrath (372 - Champion)
2. David Vuillemin (337)
3. Mike LaRocco (302)
4. Kevin Windham (278)
5. Ricky Carmichael (263)

That was your year man. Finishing runner up to the king and beating the rock, the smoothest rider ever and the goat is no small task.
Look for 02 results too...
4/30/2010 1:58pm
jasonv43 wrote:
Bradshaw - Mentally not into the 93 season. Stanton - One year away from retirement. Bayle - Did he race that year? Cooper - Crowd favorite...
Bradshaw - Mentally not into the 93 season.
Stanton - One year away from retirement.
Bayle - Did he race that year?
Cooper - Crowd favorite but not a title contender.
Kiedrowski - He was the only real threat that year.
Chicken - The downward sprial had already begun that year.

Keep in mind that MC is my all time fav but I really don't think he had that much competition that year.
You're right about Bayle : he didn't race US SX in 1993 (was already retired).
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4/30/2010 2:01pm
dv12.com wrote:
Let it go bud. Dungey is RD for now and McGrath is the King... I won the same amount of SXs than Emig but I was...
Let it go bud. Dungey is RD for now and McGrath is the King... I won the same amount of SXs than Emig but I was never champ... U forgot to put than MC wished he had RD's bonus in 93... ;-)
jasonv43 wrote:
2000 AMA EA Sports Supercross 1. Jeremy McGrath (372 - Champion) [b]2. David Vuillemin (337) [/b] 3. Mike LaRocco (302) 4. Kevin Windham (278) 5. Ricky...
2000 AMA EA Sports Supercross

1. Jeremy McGrath (372 - Champion)
2. David Vuillemin (337)
3. Mike LaRocco (302)
4. Kevin Windham (278)
5. Ricky Carmichael (263)

That was your year man. Finishing runner up to the king and beating the rock, the smoothest rider ever and the goat is no small task.
dv12.com wrote:
Look for 02 results too...
Sorry bud,

1. Ricky Carmichael (356)
2. David Vuillemin(321)
3. Jeremy McGrath (250)
4. Ezra Lusk (245)
5. Stephane Roncada (232)

Si cela vous fait sentir mieux ma femme / petite amie a été en amour avec vous de retour dans la journée .. Elle a pensé que vous étiez le miaulement des chats.

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4/30/2010 2:02pm Edited Date/Time 4/30/2010 2:04pm
Stewart raced the first three rounds and Dungey beat him 2 out of the 3 races. Yes, Stewart and Reed had the incident at round 2...
Stewart raced the first three rounds and Dungey beat him 2 out of the 3 races. Yes, Stewart and Reed had the incident at round 2 and that caused Stewart to get 15th but Dungey beat him the following week. I know that he was suffering from a not yet discovered broken wrist in that third race but you can't say that Dungey didn't give him a run for his money.
he didnt ..... taken out by reed and racing with a broken wrist can say it was at all close... with that said RD5 earned it .. you have to be there to the end to win the championship (ask RV he'll get it next year...)
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4/30/2010 2:22pm
dv12.com wrote:
Let it go bud. Dungey is RD for now and McGrath is the King... I won the same amount of SXs than Emig but I was...
Let it go bud. Dungey is RD for now and McGrath is the King... I won the same amount of SXs than Emig but I was never champ... U forgot to put than MC wished he had RD's bonus in 93... ;-)
jasonv43 wrote:
2000 AMA EA Sports Supercross 1. Jeremy McGrath (372 - Champion) [b]2. David Vuillemin (337) [/b] 3. Mike LaRocco (302) 4. Kevin Windham (278) 5. Ricky...
2000 AMA EA Sports Supercross

1. Jeremy McGrath (372 - Champion)
2. David Vuillemin (337)
3. Mike LaRocco (302)
4. Kevin Windham (278)
5. Ricky Carmichael (263)

That was your year man. Finishing runner up to the king and beating the rock, the smoothest rider ever and the goat is no small task.
David ALSO finished 2nd in 2002 behind RC. Had it not been for the shoulder injury suffered in a photoshoot crash, DV would have been the Champ.
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4/30/2010 2:28pm
Damn I didn't even think of this.

Dungey is 20 and McGrath was 23 in his rookie year. So the Dung did one up the king as far as that goes.
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4/30/2010 2:32pm
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Damn I didn't even think of this. Dungey is 20 and McGrath was 23 in his rookie year. So the Dung did one up the king...
Damn I didn't even think of this.

Dungey is 20 and McGrath was 23 in his rookie year. So the Dung did one up the king as far as that goes.
Nah, the ONLY thing RD has one up'd on the King is that he won on a Suzuki and MC failed too. lol Other than that, it isn't even close.


p.s. And how did Larocco get left off the list of fast guys in 93????
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4/30/2010 2:34pm
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so whats the problem with cotton jerseys?
You couldn't get the mud stains cleaned out of them and they shrunk so bad you couldn't move your arms!Laughing
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4/30/2010 2:40pm
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Damn I didn't even think of this. Dungey is 20 and McGrath was 23 in his rookie year. So the Dung did one up the king...
Damn I didn't even think of this.

Dungey is 20 and McGrath was 23 in his rookie year. So the Dung did one up the king as far as that goes.
Racer111 wrote:
Nah, the ONLY thing RD has one up'd on the King is that he won on a Suzuki and MC failed too. lol Other than that...
Nah, the ONLY thing RD has one up'd on the King is that he won on a Suzuki and MC failed too. lol Other than that, it isn't even close.


p.s. And how did Larocco get left off the list of fast guys in 93????
Wow Prince Dungey is sounding better and better the more I think about it. He was younger, and he won on a Suzuki. What if he goes to KTM and wins a championship?

Good point about Larocco too.
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so whats the problem with cotton jerseys?
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You couldn't get the mud stains cleaned out of them and they shrunk so bad you couldn't move your arms!Laughing
lol true but god damn beofre all that they vent a hell of a lot better then the polyester crap. in my utterly worthless opinion.
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This is really no contest, MC "for sure". He came out, right outta the gate, no questions asked and got his 125 Chips followed by a rookie year 250 Chip and then just kept on going.
Here's a flashback, I remember one year at San Diego SX there was this normal triple followed by a small double into a corner. MC turned it into ridiculous by quading the thing into a landing that was so small it cannot be described, then a bunch of other guys trying to quad it, well it was more like wad it. They ended up changing the section before the night show. MC did it lap after lap after lap.
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My favourite detail in MC's career is him only starting to ride motorbikes at 14!
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DC settles the argument:

"What’s the difference between MC’s upset win and RD’s? I personally think Jeremy was much more of a surprise, he was much more dominant, and he also was such a charismatic showman that he seemed to practically sweep the sport up on his shoulders and carry it forward. Ryan is quieter, more conservative, and almost a throwback to the hardworking yeomen days of supercross, when guys like Jeff Stanton and Jeff Ward were winning. Ryan’s got charisma, but in a good-kid-next-door way. Jeremy was an absolute force of nature."
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4/30/2010 4:08pm
dv12.com wrote:
Let it go bud. Dungey is RD for now and McGrath is the King... I won the same amount of SXs than Emig but I was...
Let it go bud. Dungey is RD for now and McGrath is the King... I won the same amount of SXs than Emig but I was never champ... U forgot to put than MC wished he had RD's bonus in 93... ;-)
jasonv43 wrote:
2000 AMA EA Sports Supercross 1. Jeremy McGrath (372 - Champion) [b]2. David Vuillemin (337) [/b] 3. Mike LaRocco (302) 4. Kevin Windham (278) 5. Ricky...
2000 AMA EA Sports Supercross

1. Jeremy McGrath (372 - Champion)
2. David Vuillemin (337)
3. Mike LaRocco (302)
4. Kevin Windham (278)
5. Ricky Carmichael (263)

That was your year man. Finishing runner up to the king and beating the rock, the smoothest rider ever and the goat is no small task.
dv12.com wrote:
Look for 02 results too...
Viva le Garter Snake!
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This is all in fun so keep it light yo! [b]top 5 reasons MC15 had a better rookie season[/b] 5. Bradshaw, Stanton, Bayle, Cooper, LaRocco, Kiedrowski...
This is all in fun so keep it light yo!

top 5 reasons MC15 had a better rookie season
5. Bradshaw, Stanton, Bayle, Cooper, LaRocco, Kiedrowski, Matiasevich(count the titles among those) they lined up every night...MC destroyed them...
4. 1993 Cr 250(badass mofo...take that todd potter)
3. he passed the defending champ, then beat him repeatedly, he didn't 'almost' beat him, once...
2. BMX kid turned dirtbike legend, it's just a better story...
1. 100% Cotton Jerseys


top 5 reason RD5 won this year...
5. he won...a couple races
4. he almost beat the upright defending champ, once, almost...
3. twitter, racerx, transworld, vitalmx, tv...its easier now
2. his heavily criticized NIKE boots didn't break his legs when he bailed
1. He won...thats all that matters...

I like RD5, he is a great champion(minus a meltdown a few weeks ago that required screaming at Josh Hill). MC was beast and those of us who care about this sport should remind the babies what legend is...RD5 will have to win 6 more titles in a way more impressive fashion to ever be close to remembered in the same sentence as MC. It won't happen...

kachoww!
So youre saying take the 96 McGrath and put him in a race with his skill then? He would still get worked. Maybe a prime jeremy...
So youre saying take the 96 McGrath and put him in a race with his skill then? He would still get worked. Maybe a prime jeremy with a few yearsof practice he would be decent
actually, yes. He would be battling at the front of the pack right away. He would be winning in short order.

How old are you zook? How much racing have you really watched from the 90's? Have you watched it recently? I've been watching some recently and they were hauling ass. The style isn't that much different today than it was back then, just the bikes...and hell...if they opened up a corner a few feet so there was an inside line...MC would kill them. None of the newer riders know how to take an inside line like the guys did in the '90s because the tracks have changed.

You can wrap up all the SX champs it would be an incredible battle all things being equal---meaning they grew up at the same time racing the same bikes. Champions are champions for a reason. MC was the greatest SX champion and won't be dethroned for many many years. James had the best chance and that's not going to happen.

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Anyone drawing comparisons at this point has to be on crack! You can come up with a stat on anything. The only thing that ties these two is "rookie season". RD had all the cards fall into place and good for him. That's it!
MC had to beat his teammate who happened to be the reigning and three time SX champ (daunting I'm sure). And throughout his career, the majority of his wins were in dominating fashion. RD didn't have to battle his title against any champions. He earned it for sure, but he took it from no one. Start drawing MC comparisons if RD takes 7 of the next 8 titles.
And anyone suggesting MC didn't have the competition (ironic considering this season's M.I.A's), his dominance wasn't suggestive of a lack of talent around him, its a credit to the talent in him. Listen to anyone that faced him, he was frustratingly untouchable. I'm not taking away from RD at all. The guy in 20th in the main event is crazy talented, let alone the guys that win races. Titles are immeasurable! But to compare at this point in one young man's careers an insult to the legacy MC left behind. RC didn't even come close to a SX comparison with MC and he dethroned him!!!
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4/30/2010 6:58pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:31pm
Loose wrote:
I know who I'd rather have a beer with
MC did very well on Mitch's Hondas,but when he moved up to the 250s he really wasnt expected to be a front runner .He used the first 2 races to get his feet wet,then he went to the front of the pack and never looked back, except when he was bustin a nac nac.
Dungey came into this season as a solid pick for top three. He did benefit from injuries to 7,22 &2.To Ryans credit he kept himself out of trouble and was consistently fast all year. He earned this championship fair & square, but he cant yet be compared to The King!
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5/1/2010 8:54pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:33pm
KW14 vs. RD5 vs. MC15

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DV, I don't know how the feck that jump got you in 02 but that was crazy... Didn't you get like 13 podiums or some shit!?!?! RC got it in the end but man, it should and could have been yours so easily...
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MX is where legends are made, RD will have MC covered when it's all said and done.

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