Evan Ferry

6/17/2024 1:53pm

Give the kid a break.  Was not a fan of tim F and dont kow much of Evan F, but he is chasing his dream,  Let him chase it, maybe he will get the speed and maybe he wont.  But what is wrong with that.

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For what it's worth I was at High Point and he was leading the LCQ and pulling away before he went down. That track was crazy deep and and muddy for qualifying too. 

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6/17/2024 1:59pm Edited Date/Time 6/17/2024 2:02pm

Evan Ferry just wont go away. Wasn't there a thread about him with about 900 posts that recently dissapeared?

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6/17/2024 2:21pm Edited Date/Time 6/17/2024 4:16pm

The kid’s dust.  I hope he had a backup plan because this dream is over.  And his dad’s a bit of a jerkoff so, whatever.  

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MXD wrote:

The kid’s dust.  I hope he had a backup plan because this dream is over.  And his dad’s a bit of a jerkoff so, whatever.  

what's a duster? 

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MXD wrote:

The kid’s dust.  I hope he had a backup plan because this dream is over.  And his dad’s a bit of a jerkoff so, whatever.  

Tyler D wrote:

what's a duster? 

It was an Autocorrect.  

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There it is! For the record, here’s my recollection of his “Factory Career” versus what others are stating… I recall him being supported by Husky as an...

There it is!

For the record, here’s my recollection of his “Factory Career” versus what others are stating…

I recall him being supported by Husky as an amateur and having some AMAZING 85s and 112s during that time. I believe he rode big bikes there for just a minute…

Then, as his move to big bikes truly began…and while still an am…he went to his own Yamahas with some support from Rockstar. I believe there was some sort of Yamaha support there “for a minute”…but, as the Triumph program started and he joined in, he eventually started riding Black Yamahas and then GG’s (and maybe some other brands?) that I think were provided by Triumph due to their bike still being in development. Also, when he was riding the “All Black Yamahas” before the GG’s…I believe he was already working for Triumph. 

So, while he was STILL an am, he began participating in Triumph’s program and that evolved into an opportunity to ride for the team. 

Now, it seems that his Triumph opportunity didn’t pan out and he was given the option to do something-else. 

And…here we are…a bunch of internet Sunday Morning Team Managers talking stupid shit about a kid that’s trying to become a pro in a sport that we all…supposedly…love.

Here’s what didn’t help: the “cover story” on Pulp. The whole “bangers” thing and all the other bs DID NOT HELP. But, hey, this is the 21st Century and we live in a world of influencers and…as I said…Internet Experts. 

Meh. Whatever. I hope Evan finds his speed and confidence and becomes the next Ty Masterpool story.

Hey, Evan? Fuck these shit talking people! Keep grinding. Do the work and get the results and I’ll see you at the races.

Manny 

All of that is how I see it too.  If he had been honest about the reason for leaving Triumph which is now pretty damn clear.....he...

All of that is how I see it too.  If he had been honest about the reason for leaving Triumph which is now pretty damn clear.....he was not fast enough.  Looking at Swoll and Savatgy's progress the testing days must have made Evan look like a C rider.  He just needs to step back, maybe go back to amateurs or arena cross for a year, and give himself time to get up to speed. 

 

If he would have been honest on the interview, none of this would be discussed and this thread wouldn't exist.  Far too many "kids" make shit up and then when called on it everyone rises up like someone is being "attacked".

yak651 wrote:
Exactly. Him and Steve blaming Triumph, no bikes, no parts, basically saying they were a crap team. Reality is they didn’t want to have their bike...

Exactly. Him and Steve blaming Triumph, no bikes, no parts, basically saying they were a crap team. Reality is they didn’t want to have their bike used as the excuse for his results 

Steve blamed Triumph? All I hear him say is that he thinks he should have stayed, although the personality issues must have been bad for them to leave? 
he also states regularly how the team, riders and bike are doing very well for their first year.

Steve and the Ferry’s are obviously close, so he obviously hears what happened from Even’s POV.

It’s also possible for multiple things to be true, life isn’t always a binary one side is 100% correct, one is 100% incorrect. Is it possible that they may have had issues with bike availability (would actually be a surprise for a new manufacturer not to have this issue), the team and bike to then perform really well, but there also be personal issues between parties internally? Seems pretty common to me.

This all just looks like a perfect reflection of society today, people feel the need to put all blame on one side, and all kudos on the other. Real life is rarely like that in my experience.

 

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All of that is how I see it too.  If he had been honest about the reason for leaving Triumph which is now pretty damn clear.....he...

All of that is how I see it too.  If he had been honest about the reason for leaving Triumph which is now pretty damn clear.....he was not fast enough.  Looking at Swoll and Savatgy's progress the testing days must have made Evan look like a C rider.  He just needs to step back, maybe go back to amateurs or arena cross for a year, and give himself time to get up to speed. 

 

If he would have been honest on the interview, none of this would be discussed and this thread wouldn't exist.  Far too many "kids" make shit up and then when called on it everyone rises up like someone is being "attacked".

yak651 wrote:
Exactly. Him and Steve blaming Triumph, no bikes, no parts, basically saying they were a crap team. Reality is they didn’t want to have their bike...

Exactly. Him and Steve blaming Triumph, no bikes, no parts, basically saying they were a crap team. Reality is they didn’t want to have their bike used as the excuse for his results 

MO 23 wrote:
Steve blamed Triumph? All I hear him say is that he thinks he should have stayed, although the personality issues must have been bad for them...

Steve blamed Triumph? All I hear him say is that he thinks he should have stayed, although the personality issues must have been bad for them to leave? 
he also states regularly how the team, riders and bike are doing very well for their first year.

Steve and the Ferry’s are obviously close, so he obviously hears what happened from Even’s POV.

It’s also possible for multiple things to be true, life isn’t always a binary one side is 100% correct, one is 100% incorrect. Is it possible that they may have had issues with bike availability (would actually be a surprise for a new manufacturer not to have this issue), the team and bike to then perform really well, but there also be personal issues between parties internally? Seems pretty common to me.

This all just looks like a perfect reflection of society today, people feel the need to put all blame on one side, and all kudos on the other. Real life is rarely like that in my experience.

 

Don’t have the exact words but basically said the team was a shit show so take it what you may. Don’t think he did Evan any favors by throwing Triumph under the bus.

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yak651 wrote:
Exactly. Him and Steve blaming Triumph, no bikes, no parts, basically saying they were a crap team. Reality is they didn’t want to have their bike...

Exactly. Him and Steve blaming Triumph, no bikes, no parts, basically saying they were a crap team. Reality is they didn’t want to have their bike used as the excuse for his results 

MO 23 wrote:
Steve blamed Triumph? All I hear him say is that he thinks he should have stayed, although the personality issues must have been bad for them...

Steve blamed Triumph? All I hear him say is that he thinks he should have stayed, although the personality issues must have been bad for them to leave? 
he also states regularly how the team, riders and bike are doing very well for their first year.

Steve and the Ferry’s are obviously close, so he obviously hears what happened from Even’s POV.

It’s also possible for multiple things to be true, life isn’t always a binary one side is 100% correct, one is 100% incorrect. Is it possible that they may have had issues with bike availability (would actually be a surprise for a new manufacturer not to have this issue), the team and bike to then perform really well, but there also be personal issues between parties internally? Seems pretty common to me.

This all just looks like a perfect reflection of society today, people feel the need to put all blame on one side, and all kudos on the other. Real life is rarely like that in my experience.

 

yak651 wrote:
Don’t have the exact words but basically said the team was a shit show so take it what you may. Don’t think he did Evan any...

Don’t have the exact words but basically said the team was a shit show so take it what you may. Don’t think he did Evan any favors by throwing Triumph under the bus.

Did you listen yourself? He let Evan talk, and asked some questions about the issues that led to Evan leaving.

But numerous times through SX and now MX has commended the team. Just last week he was saying how much better Swoll has been than he was on Husky, and commented that he would not have expected that from a brand new bike/team.

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yak651 wrote:
Don’t have the exact words but basically said the team was a shit show so take it what you may. Don’t think he did Evan any...

Don’t have the exact words but basically said the team was a shit show so take it what you may. Don’t think he did Evan any favors by throwing Triumph under the bus.

That seems like an extremely dramatic take on what he said…but this is 2024 so people gonna go wild….who do we need to cancel so you can feel better about yourself?

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MXD wrote:

The kid’s dust.  I hope he had a backup plan because this dream is over.  And his dad’s a bit of a jerkoff so, whatever.  

Easy to type that eh big fella?  I’d pay money to see you just spout off to Tim’s face that he’s a “jerkoff” on the contrary you’d be first to have him sign your hat. 

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Easy to type that eh big fella?  I’d pay money to see you just spout off to Tim’s face that he’s a “jerkoff” on the contrary...

Easy to type that eh big fella?  I’d pay money to see you just spout off to Tim’s face that he’s a “jerkoff” on the contrary you’d be first to have him sign your hat. 

Tim probably spouted off on his old lady’s face if I had to guess. 

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But one thing i have to say is Evan Ferry did not force himself onto the Factory Triumph team. Someone there actually thought he was good enough to warrant a spot. They obviously made a big mistake, he was nowhere near ready.

Ferry getting that spot was not his fault, you can´t blame the kid for taking it.

 

In the end of the day, he obviously has a lot of work to do if he wants to race professionally. Maybe he doesn´t want to and just wants to ride for fun and create content? So be it, not everyone is a racer.

 

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Wow there's a bit going on in here that's for sure, give him a year in pros then rag on him.

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MXD wrote:

The kid’s dust.  I hope he had a backup plan because this dream is over.  And his dad’s a bit of a jerkoff so, whatever.  

brocster wrote:
Easy to type that eh big fella?  I’d pay money to see you just spout off to Tim’s face that he’s a “jerkoff” on the contrary...

Easy to type that eh big fella?  I’d pay money to see you just spout off to Tim’s face that he’s a “jerkoff” on the contrary you’d be first to have him sign your hat. 

You are 100% incorrect on this one. Even if the guy was my hero, I still wouldn’t ask him for an autograph.  Autographs aren’t my thing.  I never understood a grown man wanting another man’s signature.  As far as saying it to his face, why would I do that unprovoked?  That would just make me the jerkoff.  It has nothing to do with fear.  That’s a ridiculous thing to say.  

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6/18/2024 3:39am Edited Date/Time 6/18/2024 3:42am
brocster wrote:
Easy to type that eh big fella?  I’d pay money to see you just spout off to Tim’s face that he’s a “jerkoff” on the contrary...

Easy to type that eh big fella?  I’d pay money to see you just spout off to Tim’s face that he’s a “jerkoff” on the contrary you’d be first to have him sign your hat. 

LungButter wrote:

Tim probably spouted off on his old lady’s face if I had to guess. 

You would be wrong but I’m sure you already knew that.  Many years ago a few fast friends of mine went down to Daytona to try and qualify.  We were all at a practice track the week leading up to it.  Ferry was there with his mechanic.  Some older dude was running the place, real nice guy.  He had a nice patch of grass with signs all over it that said “please stay off the grass”.  As soon as the guy pulled out of the front gate, Ferry and his mechanic went over and were ripping practice starts on the grass.  I saw it with my own two eyes.  Years later I saw him at the old sunrise track on his Yamaha spinning some practice laps in the offseason and I watched him cool guy some 8-10 year old kids and shut his van door in their face.  He wasn’t leaving, either.  He literally just went into the back of his van and shut the doors until he was ready to go back out.  Contrast that with DV who was also there that day and spent a ton of time with the same pack of kids.  Those are the two things I’ve witnessed but I’ve also heard similar stories from others.  So my opinion has nothing to do with him nutting on my girls face.  I actually formed it all on my own.  

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MXD wrote:

The kid’s dust.  I hope he had a backup plan because this dream is over.  And his dad’s a bit of a jerkoff so, whatever.  

brocster wrote:
Easy to type that eh big fella?  I’d pay money to see you just spout off to Tim’s face that he’s a “jerkoff” on the contrary...

Easy to type that eh big fella?  I’d pay money to see you just spout off to Tim’s face that he’s a “jerkoff” on the contrary you’d be first to have him sign your hat. 

I’d say it to his face and I have. Tim is a lot of things and one of them is not being very bright or kind. I don’t give a sh-t if you think otherwise I’ve seen how he functions. I don’t say things lightly. I have flaws and work on them and care how I reflect on others. . Tim does not , and I’m not shocked his boy is struggling with good choices. 
Hopefully his kid can become his own man and figure it out. 

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6/18/2024 5:47am Edited Date/Time 6/18/2024 5:48am
MXD wrote:

The kid’s dust.  I hope he had a backup plan because this dream is over.  And his dad’s a bit of a jerkoff so, whatever.  

brocster wrote:
Easy to type that eh big fella?  I’d pay money to see you just spout off to Tim’s face that he’s a “jerkoff” on the contrary...

Easy to type that eh big fella?  I’d pay money to see you just spout off to Tim’s face that he’s a “jerkoff” on the contrary you’d be first to have him sign your hat. 

viking174 wrote:
I’d say it to his face and I have. Tim is a lot of things and one of them is not being very bright or kind...

I’d say it to his face and I have. Tim is a lot of things and one of them is not being very bright or kind. I don’t give a sh-t if you think otherwise I’ve seen how he functions. I don’t say things lightly. I have flaws and work on them and care how I reflect on others. . Tim does not , and I’m not shocked his boy is struggling with good choices. 
Hopefully his kid can become his own man and figure it out. 

Thank you for confirming.  Your experience is similar to mine.  The burned bridges in Evan’s life have his dad’s fingerprints all over them.  

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MXD wrote:

The kid’s dust.  I hope he had a backup plan because this dream is over.  And his dad’s a bit of a jerkoff so, whatever.  

Tyler D wrote:

what's a duster? 

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But one thing i have to say is Evan Ferry did not force himself onto the Factory Triumph team. Someone there actually thought he was good...

But one thing i have to say is Evan Ferry did not force himself onto the Factory Triumph team. Someone there actually thought he was good enough to warrant a spot. They obviously made a big mistake, he was nowhere near ready.

Ferry getting that spot was not his fault, you can´t blame the kid for taking it.

 

In the end of the day, he obviously has a lot of work to do if he wants to race professionally. Maybe he doesn´t want to and just wants to ride for fun and create content? So be it, not everyone is a racer.

 

I agree with your take here, but the problem is Evan was not honest about that on Pulp.  If he would have just said he was not ready it would have been very different.....he did not.  In fact, he advertised on the show he was open for outdoor rides and hoped to get a fill in ride etc.  Imagine if Mitch gave him the ride instead of Masterpool??

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MXD wrote:

The kid’s dust.  I hope he had a backup plan because this dream is over.  And his dad’s a bit of a jerkoff so, whatever.  

Tyler D wrote:

what's a duster? 

Gary Duck wrote:

Best thing in this thread👍

Hope Evan can do better next week.

6/18/2024 9:57am Edited Date/Time 6/18/2024 9:58am

I didn't watch Race Day Live, but saw his second qualifying times and was pretty impressed with the improvement--for those that saw Evan, did he look as good as the qualifying time in Q2? If so, he could have really changed the narrative. Hope he puts it in the show next race and scores some points. 

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MO 23 wrote:
Steve blamed Triumph? All I hear him say is that he thinks he should have stayed, although the personality issues must have been bad for them...

Steve blamed Triumph? All I hear him say is that he thinks he should have stayed, although the personality issues must have been bad for them to leave? 
he also states regularly how the team, riders and bike are doing very well for their first year.

Steve and the Ferry’s are obviously close, so he obviously hears what happened from Even’s POV.

It’s also possible for multiple things to be true, life isn’t always a binary one side is 100% correct, one is 100% incorrect. Is it possible that they may have had issues with bike availability (would actually be a surprise for a new manufacturer not to have this issue), the team and bike to then perform really well, but there also be personal issues between parties internally? Seems pretty common to me.

This all just looks like a perfect reflection of society today, people feel the need to put all blame on one side, and all kudos on the other. Real life is rarely like that in my experience.

 

yak651 wrote:
Don’t have the exact words but basically said the team was a shit show so take it what you may. Don’t think he did Evan any...

Don’t have the exact words but basically said the team was a shit show so take it what you may. Don’t think he did Evan any favors by throwing Triumph under the bus.

MO 23 wrote:
Did you listen yourself? He let Evan talk, and asked some questions about the issues that led to Evan leaving. But numerous times through SX and...

Did you listen yourself? He let Evan talk, and asked some questions about the issues that led to Evan leaving.

But numerous times through SX and now MX has commended the team. Just last week he was saying how much better Swoll has been than he was on Husky, and commented that he would not have expected that from a brand new bike/team.

I’ll apologize if I heard it wrong but I could’ve swore I heard him say Hewit has lost his edge, the team was mismanaged and that they had resource problems. I think Swol has shown the bike and team is capable and he has since come around on his takes on the team. 

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Tough sport. Bad couple years and you are basically chewed up and spit out. Other sports are no different.

hope he finds his groove and gets some points.

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every time i see the vitards "talk" about one of these superspoiled bratts factory amatures with no results, i find myself thinking.......all the excuses and blames thrown around will never ever have to do with results, while for a non "royalty" kid it is the exact opposite, dont get great results the first year, get out......... ...for exemple,Caden Braswell was a privateer, hard working kid with no "blue" blood, but with the Horizon Award from Lorettas, he just got thrown from here to there to fill parked bikes, and when not needed anymore, got kicked out of the sport, like a lot of other first year pro kids do, to give place for others that despite never putting results in, keep getting the factory contracts......if Caden had been given half the chances, but specially half the support and handling Ferry got, wouldnt he be up there with the royalty himself ????

 

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Tough sport. Bad couple years and you are basically chewed up and spit out. Other sports are no different. hope he finds his groove and gets...

Tough sport. Bad couple years and you are basically chewed up and spit out. Other sports are no different.

hope he finds his groove and gets some points.

Other sports are even worse, I personally work with a few guys who gave it a go at pro hockey.  Unless you're a star, you get a sniff, and if you don't make it happen immediately, that's it.

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But one thing i have to say is Evan Ferry did not force himself onto the Factory Triumph team. Someone there actually thought he was good...

But one thing i have to say is Evan Ferry did not force himself onto the Factory Triumph team. Someone there actually thought he was good enough to warrant a spot. They obviously made a big mistake, he was nowhere near ready.

Ferry getting that spot was not his fault, you can´t blame the kid for taking it.

 

In the end of the day, he obviously has a lot of work to do if he wants to race professionally. Maybe he doesn´t want to and just wants to ride for fun and create content? So be it, not everyone is a racer.

 

Worked out great for Pastrana, B.Deegan and Axel Hodges. 

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Worked out great for Pastrana, B.Deegan and Axel Hodges. 

Jeremy “Twitch” Stenberg 🙂

 

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rileymx wrote:
every time i see the vitards "talk" about one of these superspoiled bratts factory amatures with no results, i find myself thinking.......all the excuses and blames...

every time i see the vitards "talk" about one of these superspoiled bratts factory amatures with no results, i find myself thinking.......all the excuses and blames thrown around will never ever have to do with results, while for a non "royalty" kid it is the exact opposite, dont get great results the first year, get out......... ...for exemple,Caden Braswell was a privateer, hard working kid with no "blue" blood, but with the Horizon Award from Lorettas, he just got thrown from here to there to fill parked bikes, and when not needed anymore, got kicked out of the sport, like a lot of other first year pro kids do, to give place for others that despite never putting results in, keep getting the factory contracts......if Caden had been given half the chances, but specially half the support and handling Ferry got, wouldnt he be up there with the royalty himself ????

 

Lol Caden Braswell didn't get kicked out of the sport, he's just getting started. After LL's in '22 he signed with Phoenix Honda, raced '23 SX, then was offered a fill-in ride with TLD GasGas when Phoenix decided not to race '23 pro motocross. When his fill-in time was done he was picked up by HBI Kawasaki but had knee surgery after last season and hasn't raced yet in '24. He is still supported by HBI.

As an amateur he was a long time Orange Brigade KTM and TLD supported racer who was sent to race the 2018 FIM World Junior MX Championship which he won over Kay De Wolf, Liam Everts and others. He raced LL's every year since he was 6 years old, plus the other big nationals and moto combines, etc. He had good support, good equipment and plenty of industry exposure. He didn't just win the Horizon Award out of the blue.

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6/18/2024 12:50pm Edited Date/Time 6/18/2024 12:51pm
ILoveMoto wrote:

Jeremy “Twitch” Stenberg 🙂

 

He’s done well for himself too, no doubt. But he was never fast enough to make a living at racing motocross, if he had chosen that path. 
One could argue that Axel wasn’t either, but he had skills in racing and could’ve turned pro and went after it with more of a chance than Twitch. Several guys that ended up leaving motocross and making a name for themselves in freestyle did really well and would’ve probably never made much racing, had they never crossed over. 

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