Ty Masterpool

Chris_Buehler wrote:

I'm not arguing he doesn't need to improve in sx a lot. But paint the real picture. He was barely making mains on a 450. We're...

I'm not arguing he doesn't need to improve in sx a lot. But paint the real picture. He was barely making mains on a 450. We're talking about him getting  250 ride. And he came into the season off an injury 

8tensolutions wrote:

Ok, let's paint the real picture......name another factory 250 rider he is anywhere close to in SX.  I think it's great he is getting a shot...

Ok, let's paint the real picture......name another factory 250 rider he is anywhere close to in SX.  I think it's great he is getting a shot and hope he can figure it out, but him getting a factory deal with his SX results make no sense.....but maybe he can take page out of Vialle's book and put his head down and figure it out

 

9bro9 wrote:

Not really apples to apples since we don't have any recent 250 SX results to base off of. I think he'd be a top 15 guy...

Not really apples to apples since we don't have any recent 250 SX results to base off of. I think he'd be a top 15 guy in SX off the bat on a PC bike, depending which coast he races. 

NSP139 wrote:

He needs to get out of Texas and learn Supercross here in Socal with all the fast guys if he wants a chance at a factory...

He needs to get out of Texas and learn Supercross here in Socal with all the fast guys if he wants a chance at a factory ride unfortunately that's what the team cares about!

chasetwo79 wrote:

I’ve personally seen his SX tracks. They are the same spec and gnarlier sometimes than the west coast ones. I’ve also seen him ride those fairly...

I’ve personally seen his SX tracks. They are the same spec and gnarlier sometimes than the west coast ones. I’ve also seen him ride those fairly well. He even had decent qualifying times this year on his 450 at a couple of rounds. He has fast guys come and ride there too, so he’s obviously worked to improve it the last year or so extra hard. It’s the race craft and confidence he’s lacking in SX. He needs consistent reps. 
 

The next step is if Mitch or another team manager thinks there is a foundation to build on, they can get him out to ride with the rest of the factory level people in the pre season. It isn’t that Ty won’t go ride with faster people, he just did it for the last 3 weeks in California, its that he isn’t going to go into the red on his own dime to go to California for months on end. 
 

I still don’t think he’s going to work into a consistent SX podium guy, but I do think he could get to a consistent top 10 guy indoors and eventually compete for race wins outdoors with a few years of stability. 

NSP139 wrote:

Yes he was testing here in California because he's being paid sometimes you need to invest in yourself on the Super Cross side plenty of other...

Yes he was testing here in California because he's being paid sometimes you need to invest in yourself on the Super Cross side plenty of other privateers do it but maybe they don't have the baggage🤷‍♂️ not hating on the kid just wish he had the best opportunities available to him😊

 

PS I know you're a super fan and ride the facility LOL👍

CPR wrote:

I love SX as much as anyone, but it sux to see guys with so much potential outdoors, struggle to get decent rides because they’re not...

I love SX as much as anyone, but it sux to see guys with so much potential outdoors, struggle to get decent rides because they’re not so hot indoors.
Goes to show how much SX rules the roost, despite MX being the core of the sport.

dhp_mma94 wrote:

unfortunately its only like tht because of the revenue tht SX brings , ur casual fan is more likely to attend an event in a stadium...

unfortunately its only like tht because of the revenue tht SX brings , ur casual fan is more likely to attend an event in a stadium on a Saturday night then a event of locations half of them in the middle of nowhere on Saturday hot afternoon during the summer , therefore the big manufacture teams putting more emphasis in ur sx skills , imo it should based on equal skillset , which I like how Jeremy Coker put it , coop & Eli is their sx guys while j coop was there Mx , nonetheless I still stand on ty should’ve been on AC’s bike for the summer instead of having broc just popping in for a race or 2 

chasetwo79 wrote:

I’ve personally seen his SX tracks. They are the same spec and gnarlier sometimes than the west coast ones. I’ve also seen him ride those fairly...

I’ve personally seen his SX tracks. They are the same spec and gnarlier sometimes than the west coast ones. I’ve also seen him ride those fairly well. He even had decent qualifying times this year on his 450 at a couple of rounds. He has fast guys come and ride there too, so he’s obviously worked to improve it the last year or so extra hard. It’s the race craft and confidence he’s lacking in SX. He needs consistent reps. 
 

The next step is if Mitch or another team manager thinks there is a foundation to build on, they can get him out to ride with the rest of the factory level people in the pre season. It isn’t that Ty won’t go ride with faster people, he just did it for the last 3 weeks in California, its that he isn’t going to go into the red on his own dime to go to California for months on end. 
 

I still don’t think he’s going to work into a consistent SX podium guy, but I do think he could get to a consistent top 10 guy indoors and eventually compete for race wins outdoors with a few years of stability. 

NSP139 wrote:

Yes he was testing here in California because he's being paid sometimes you need to invest in yourself on the Super Cross side plenty of other...

Yes he was testing here in California because he's being paid sometimes you need to invest in yourself on the Super Cross side plenty of other privateers do it but maybe they don't have the baggage🤷‍♂️ not hating on the kid just wish he had the best opportunities available to him😊

 

PS I know you're a super fan and ride the facility LOL👍

8tensolutions wrote:

This exactly,  It's widely known he wants to be in Texas and that has worked for basically no-one in the past 10 years.  He needs to...

This exactly,  It's widely known he wants to be in Texas and that has worked for basically no-one in the past 10 years.  He needs to be in FL at the sandbox (or similar) or in CA with some Team driving him every day.  That is what it takes now.  The days of being able to reach that level solo (unless you're Tomac) are behind us.  

NSP139 wrote:

Yes he was testing here in California because he's being paid sometimes you need to invest in yourself on the Super Cross side plenty of other...

Yes he was testing here in California because he's being paid sometimes you need to invest in yourself on the Super Cross side plenty of other privateers do it but maybe they don't have the baggage🤷‍♂️ not hating on the kid just wish he had the best opportunities available to him😊

 

PS I know you're a super fan and ride the facility LOL👍

8tensolutions wrote:

This exactly,  It's widely known he wants to be in Texas and that has worked for basically no-one in the past 10 years.  He needs to...

This exactly,  It's widely known he wants to be in Texas and that has worked for basically no-one in the past 10 years.  He needs to be in FL at the sandbox (or similar) or in CA with some Team driving him every day.  That is what it takes now.  The days of being able to reach that level solo (unless you're Tomac) are behind us.  

truck wrote:

This is a self fulfilling prophecy. If teams don't want to hire a guy unless they can keep them close and have some control over them...

This is a self fulfilling prophecy. If teams don't want to hire a guy unless they can keep them close and have some control over them that's certainly their choice, but there's nothing special about Florida or California that necessitate a guy train there. How many guys were training in Carolina 15 years ago? 

8tensolutions wrote:

This exactly,  It's widely known he wants to be in Texas and that has worked for basically no-one in the past 10 years.  He needs to...

This exactly,  It's widely known he wants to be in Texas and that has worked for basically no-one in the past 10 years.  He needs to be in FL at the sandbox (or similar) or in CA with some Team driving him every day.  That is what it takes now.  The days of being able to reach that level solo (unless you're Tomac) are behind us.  

truck wrote:

This is a self fulfilling prophecy. If teams don't want to hire a guy unless they can keep them close and have some control over them...

This is a self fulfilling prophecy. If teams don't want to hire a guy unless they can keep them close and have some control over them that's certainly their choice, but there's nothing special about Florida or California that necessitate a guy train there. How many guys were training in Carolina 15 years ago? 

8tensolutions wrote:

Has nothing to do with control.  He could go ride at Club (Carolina), Sandbox (not a Team and if they would let him), or a number...

Has nothing to do with control.  He could go ride at Club (Carolina), Sandbox (not a Team and if they would let him), or a number of other places where he is riding with others at the highest level.  I mean, how has it been working for him so far?  Time to level up or shut up

truck wrote:

This is a self fulfilling prophecy. If teams don't want to hire a guy unless they can keep them close and have some control over them...

This is a self fulfilling prophecy. If teams don't want to hire a guy unless they can keep them close and have some control over them that's certainly their choice, but there's nothing special about Florida or California that necessitate a guy train there. How many guys were training in Carolina 15 years ago? 

8tensolutions wrote:

Has nothing to do with control.  He could go ride at Club (Carolina), Sandbox (not a Team and if they would let him), or a number...

Has nothing to do with control.  He could go ride at Club (Carolina), Sandbox (not a Team and if they would let him), or a number of other places where he is riding with others at the highest level.  I mean, how has it been working for him so far?  Time to level up or shut up

truck wrote:

Shouldn't this apply just as much to outdoors though? 

8tensolutions wrote:

Ok, let's paint the real picture......name another factory 250 rider he is anywhere close to in SX.  I think it's great he is getting a shot...

Ok, let's paint the real picture......name another factory 250 rider he is anywhere close to in SX.  I think it's great he is getting a shot and hope he can figure it out, but him getting a factory deal with his SX results make no sense.....but maybe he can take page out of Vialle's book and put his head down and figure it out

 

9bro9 wrote:

Not really apples to apples since we don't have any recent 250 SX results to base off of. I think he'd be a top 15 guy...

Not really apples to apples since we don't have any recent 250 SX results to base off of. I think he'd be a top 15 guy in SX off the bat on a PC bike, depending which coast he races. 

8tensolutions wrote:

That proves my point further.....So you think Mitch or Bobby Regan would be happy with him finishing between Hunter Yoder and Geran Stapleton?  They were 14th...

That proves my point further.....So you think Mitch or Bobby Regan would be happy with him finishing between Hunter Yoder and Geran Stapleton?  They were 14th and 15th in Denver for example.  

Note:  Nothing against those two, just not factory level

ILoveMoto wrote:

Breaking news...Just inked him to a contract for this weekend on my fantasy team! Mitch is a tough negotiator but we sealed the deal. 😎

Breaking news...Just inked him to a contract for this weekend on my fantasy team! Mitch is a tough negotiator but we sealed the deal. 😎

Mavetism wrote:

A lot of people said he was only doing good because the 450 field was "weak" last year, pretty sick to see him getting that one...

A lot of people said he was only doing good because the 450 field was "weak" last year, pretty sick to see him getting that one done. Hopefully he can build on that and maybe even make it work in SX aswell. What a race man!

The real Sasquatch wrote:

That was so cool to see. Mitch getting his 300th win on Fathers Day weekend after the loss of his Dad. And to have Ty be...

That was so cool to see. Mitch getting his 300th win on Fathers Day weekend after the loss of his Dad. And to have Ty be the rider to get it was extra cool to see.  Hope this turns into some momentum.  

The real Sasquatch wrote:

That was so cool to see. Mitch getting his 300th win on Fathers Day weekend after the loss of his Dad. And to have Ty be...

That was so cool to see. Mitch getting his 300th win on Fathers Day weekend after the loss of his Dad. And to have Ty be the rider to get it was extra cool to see.  Hope this turns into some momentum.  

yak651 wrote:

Amazing with the talent he signs and Masterpool is the guy coming through for him. And last couple years Jo with the results over the hand...

Amazing with the talent he signs and Masterpool is the guy coming through for him. And last couple years Jo with the results over the hand picked guys. Cool that he is loyal to his guys but time to clean house and go with some new faces 

Bow977 wrote:

So awesome for Ty, he deserves that one! 

Cayden Thompson wrote:

Let's go babyyy. This should ink a multi-year contract 🇺🇸💯