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Pretty great position to be in if you are the promotor of MXON, you sell tickets and a TV package to an event that the talent come out of their own pocket for virtually no prize money.
Oh and if the riders don't want to spend a ton of money traveling across the world and risk hurting themselves and not being able to do their actual job then the internet bullies them into going by calling them a disgrace to their country.
From the manufactures point of view, say you just signed a guy for a few million dollars a year and he tears his ACL at MXON and hes out for all of Supercross...
By saying the riders you mean 3 specific riders from one country since the rest of the world often shows up with their best lineup they possible can.
Some years green cards and visas has come in the way for some riders to join but this seems like a one country problem. The same country that also send a B team in the name of Guam or Pouerto Rico.
This was never a issiue until the results went south.
Name the track? Thunder Valley did it but the venue is a bit too small overall for MXoN.
Fox Raceway can't handle the traffic in and out, and the track itself isn't really iconic to be it.
MXGP promoters already tried with Glen Helen once before...not happening again.
Not sure what the turnout would be like for Hangtown...
What about Millville?
Edit: obviously not west, but what I mean is, could it handle a MXdN event? Best nationals track imo.
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for NZ, its much more expensive to get a team to Red Bud than to a central european MXDN,.
A west coast USA round would be much cheaper,
Washougal.
Bring it to the PNW at good ole Washougal!
I would like to learn more from ML on which tracks seem viable for a Nations race. Many factors in countries and riders going to that race but patriotic pride should trump all for every nation.
Would be awesome to see it on an old school Gatorback layout with the elevator. And Gatorback could handle plenty of fans too. Not sure that will ever happen, but it's worth a thought.
EDIT: I know it's east coast. Still would be cool to see.
Washougal was my 1st thought. Pala was another one. Glen Hellen with the hills and LA entertainment would make a great race location.
The track will have to already be in the national clan so that limits other possible locations.
East coast a 2nd Budds Creek would be a great location because our guests have so much different DC entertainment within an hour of the track and they could spend a week going to museums in DC alone. I think that is a large % of why Budds was so well attended from all around the world.
What did happen to the glen helen mxdn? I’m sure it was annouced when they took in the mxgp round
The attendance was so poor at the USGP they pulled the plug on the MXdN
Bring it to Glen Helen finally and we might have a chance
A USGP and the MXoN are 2 completely different animals.
Back in the day to qualify to hold a MXoN the track was required to 1st hold a GP at the facility and that changed with Colorado but IMO after attending every MXoN the fan base was not quite as good as it was at Unadilla and Budds Creek.
Glen Helen Raceway and Youthstream have worked in close cooperation over the last 2 years and both entities have invested serious funds for the organization of the MXGP of USA but despite the quality of the organization, the excellent racing and the massive media coverage the fan attendance was much lower than expected and also much lower than what this event deserves.
For such a prestigious event which deserves and needs an outstanding fan participation the risk is too high, and this is the main reason why it has been decided in common agreement to not organize the Monster Energy FIM Motocross of Nations in 2017 in Glen Helen. If the situation changes in the future both parties would be keen to work together again.
https://www.mxgp.com/news/monster-energy-fim-motocross-nations-glen-helen-cancelled
If the wrench in the gear for glen helen hosting a national was that they did not want to make improvements requested by MX sports, what makes you think they would for the moto mafia that is the promoter of the MXoN?
You glen helenites need to accept that unless something big happens in the power structure at glen helen and/or MX sports there will never be another big national/international motocross event there.
Then it will not have to pop up in every moto conversation that actually has nothing to do with it.
examples:
question from Johnny D class.
"How do I jet my 1999 yz 125?"
answer from Cali crybaby
"well, if they would just bring the national back at the most bestest, awesomest track ever in the world history of motocross, glen helen, then you wouldn't have to worry about jetting, because glen helen is the benchmark that factories use to set jetting, so it is perfect for there.
Your problem is wanting to ride anywhere else.
So write MX sports. Write Glen Helen. Write your congressmen. Show up at Biden AND trump rallies and let them know this is the most burning issue facing not only moto, but the world.
Glen Helen national most return for the sake of the world and the future of it's children!"
rant over
Now read FTE's post. Read it over and over until you have an epiphany and realize how correct he is.
I always thought the hold up for the Glen Helen National was that they want to sell all of their own VIP spots/packages and not adhere to the deals that MX Sports already has in place for the series?
I say it every time.....there are tracks on the National Series that have been on it for DECADES, they make it work every year....yet Glen Helen can't make it work and somehow MX Sports is always the bad guy. Why does it work so well for the other tracks but Glen Helen can't figure it out?
The chase; you cut to it.
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I hate they have to go to Pala instead of Glen Helen, Pala is subpar no doubt. Anyone know when Feldkamps lease is up? I understand the owner of the track (San Bernardino County) is keen to get some of the big events back to bring tourism $s into the city/county (this second hand from someone who works for the county)
Washougal is too small and too back roadsy for a Nations, but it is a beautiful track and 2/3rds of it is really good, I don't know why they don't change up that bottom 1/3 of the track on the flat section
Spring Creek is a top 3 motocross track on the planet IMO, same problem as Washougal I would think though in terms of size, might be a little bigger in terms of spectator capacity
Hangtown would have a good turnout I bet for a Nations, and I think it could have enough seating and parking if they opened up some of the infield and did not allow EZ ups on the hillsides. I would be shocked if they ever hosted it there though. The track is owned by the state of California, I can only imagine what a nightmare those negotiations would be, lol
And 100% agree its ridiculous that the Nations race brings in millions of dollars yet teams/countries are having bake sales to get there due to the lack of any purse
And for those that complain about the cost of the US team going to Europe, what about the cost of all of those European countries coming to the US for the event? I love that we get the race here, but that means like 30 teams or so are traveling a really long way! Some of the countries that make it are certainly not "rich" by any means and they are somehow pulling it off... Maybe the bake sales bring in a lot of $s?
Barbers Motorsports Park in Leeds AL is the finest facility for a USA MXON. All infrastructure is in place to handle 200,000 fans, except a track!!. If George Barber will fund a track on his 880 acres?? Elevation change, logistics to airports, interstates, local food and lodging are premiere. Those Texas fans will enjoy the Buc-ees 3 minutes away.
Buc-ees would make a prime sponsor!
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