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Then you all are just as stupid to let your young kids ride or race on these unsafe tracks, you are just making excuses for his shit behavior. You may think he's a "stand up human" but I guarantee when things get tough he is no longer a stand up human, he a man child who thinks he is owed everything.
That's exactly the point , I doubt Rich Taylor has ever taken responsibility for anything he has done in his life, It's always someone else's fault.
According to Rich , he did not know about the section until he was over by the crash. And also there were other people who spoke to the track about it and were told that it would be changed. And then was not changed.
There are 2 statements from 2 different people at the beginning of this thread. 1 from Rich, one from Rick Ryan a former Daytona SX winner. Rick is the person who complained about the section.
Perhaps if more people walked the track , more people would have noticed and complained. Or noticed that they should take extra care in that section. It sucks his kid got hurt. But if he really did not know about the section before, it shows that there is a need for having people walk tracks.
Difference between you Rich and DL is that your not a pussy, and you know how to make an honest living.
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Damn straight, the man knows what he signed up for and suing never crossed his mind.
Everyone here, besides a couple of slimy bastards, know it's the wrong thing to do.
A finger on the clutch and this incident never happened.
accountability goes both ways corn pop. it was preventable. there's this thing called a front brake lever.
He’s an old school badass that I can’t say enough great things about
Rick didn’t have health insurance for his minor child who races motocross and mountain bikes? I can’t understand that, how irresponsible. He is located in one of the wealthiest communities is so-cal, Agoura Hills. California has lots of insurance options and in 2017 post Covid plans were affordable. He took a risk, saw an opportunity to get even more wealth, had his flunky little buddy craft a statement, and gave the riding community double middle fingers al the way to the bank. His statement also says there were attorneys fees, which he incurred only when he litigated. I have never met a Richard that wasn’t a dick…
Well thanks you guys but I'm no different than 99.9% of everyone else on this site. There's guys way more fucked up than me in here that didn't sue the track they crashed on either. I don't get the people supporting him. I saw some of the otmx crew praising him and thanking him for his support over the years. I guess donating some free goggles gets you a lot of fans. I like and admire all those people but we'll never see eye to eye on this one. Maybe there's some details we don't know about who knows.
I'm not defending Rich. I don't like the idea of suing anybody.
As far as my posts on this thread. I feel like making sure that the info on what Rich did and did not do should be as accurate as possible. And he should only be judged for the things he DID do. And not the things people are getting confused about him doing.
I have talked with Rich briefly a few times about selling his goggles. Ultimately I did not have the demand from current customers and did not end up continuing to sell them after MTA went away. Other than that I've noticed his supporting of riders through his goggle company. So I really do not know him. I know he has done a ton of good things for people and the sport.
I struggle to understand why he would sue for a relatively small amount of money VS the damage it could do to his company when people found out. Again not defending him, but I just wonder how he came to that decision. I can only think that he was trying to do what he felt was best for his kid at the time.
Anyone else notice that all the posts defending him are for the most part new accounts.
Rick never told rich about the “unsafe portionion” of the track? If he did indeed tell the rich then rich knew about it. He was told and then it’s on him to go investigate the section. We sign a waiver and we know the risks. It’s a chicken shit excuse to sue a track because of your son’s actions or your lack of actions on the track. My son got hurt at a local track and broke his arm,I’m sure as hell not suing track,you live and you learn and you need to know to back it off if you start getting tired. You own it and you move on
Read the statements. I have no idea if Rich and Rick are best buddies or had never spoken before.
I've been hurt a ton of times, I've had a hospital kill me for a few minutes when putting me under, had more than a few things happen that caused me a lot of years of pain. Hurt at public and private riding areas. Built jumps that people got hurt on . And never sued anybody. I had Lawyers come talk to me trying to get me to sue. I'm not defending Rich suing. Just trying to make sure the info is correct according to the statements and records posted.
There are enough things that Rich has admitted to in his statement to help people decide how they feel. No need to add speculation or incorrect info to add to the reasons.
I appreciate you're in the industry and also trying to be level headed and not blindly throw him under the bus.
That said, the only fact most of us care about is a guy suing a track for a crash caused by rider error, and that's never been disputed.
Anything else around this is irrelevant.
Ope... Wonder if this guys dad filed a suit....
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Rich can eat shit he turned his back on mabton too (pomeroys home track)
I agree that the suing alone is enough for most to decide how they feel. That is why I don't understand the need to pile on with the stuff that is not true. I am not trying to change anybody's opinion of Rich. I just feel like if Your going to be mad at him You should know what's been shown to be true and what has not. I know the big part is what people are mad about. And I have not disputed that since learning that Rich was himself behind it.
I'm not asking anybody to change their opinion on Rich. I myself have been quick to judge people in my past, and through life experiences grown to see that there are many paths that can end at the same point. And its not always the reason we think , or the path that we think was taken to get to that point that was the path somebody took.
Would I feel good about pushing the brand now? No Not really.
Do I have some of those goggles that I have been using myself that I will stop using? As of right now Yes.
But I still feel like misinformation is worth pointing out.
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For the sake of all motocross tracks in the country- I hope you don’t ride anymore. Damn..unbelievable..
The first 6 words of his first sentence says it all.. of course he's gonna defend a buddy, even if it's wrong.. this was my politically correct response.. the other wouldve involved the taste hes been left with..
I initially had some of those thoughts. Before pics came out. That the so called cliff (that isnt really a cliff) must have been so obscured from view that it might not have even been visible unless you did a track walk around the complete outside of the track. Or lost it over the berm.
But it's right in plain sight in the pics. From the jeezes parking lot even. Everyone that was there had to have seen it.
Injuries in motocross are always 100% preventable - don't ride motocross.
It doesn't matter if that berm was 5' high or how it was, if you whiskey throttle off it you are most likely going to get hurt.
I'll say this, even though it's been mentioned a couple times before...Rick Ryan didn't have the best reputation in the sport. His statement has a few holes in it, as well. He said he talked to a track worker and then went to another area where "spectators congregate" and then he couldn't see the berm. From all the pictures that have been posted, you can see that berm from the parking lot, which is where most people watch from at that track.
ALSO, he said a "short while later" was when he learned about the crash. Wasn't this crash at the end of the day? There are some pretty large liberties being taken in that statement.
It all smells fishy, as far as that sworn statement goes. And those of you who are about to say "well obviously there was negligence because they settled...." - That is just a BLATANTLY ignorant and incorrect assumption.
I wasn’t trying to agree or side with a player in the industry. I was just saying that it’s nice that ml commented on and tried to clear things up. I certainly don’t agree with suing the track. It’s not like the track was a surprise or anything. We all know what can happen while riding but it’s a risk we take because it makes us happy. You can get out of bed and slip at home and become paralyzed. If I’m gonna get seriously injured I’d prefer it be doing something I love. Hopefully that never happens but if it does I still won’t sue the track.
Maybe he was trying for a payday and decided he didn’t have a case for gross negligence/malice and though it was best to settle for actual damages?
I just crashed yesterday on the main track after the downhill double after the upper table top and most likely tore my MCL. OJ'd it a little then lost the front right as it sweeps left. I also went over the berm which has a drop off.
I will NOT be suing LACR.
I hope you get to feeling better soon! Was your vision obscured, what brand of goggle were you using?
"Make our beloved sport better". Yea right! That's a good one.
Thank you, this MCL injury is way worse than both my torn ace's combined. Plus I'm 50 so there is that.
I had clear vision of the whole thing but it was not an EKS Brand product, those stayed home.
Club moto in Norcal. Currently has pending litigation as well, the result could be catastrophic.
That makes sense. After so much time passed by, and perhaps his son was recovering better than expected?
I'm just glad that the track is still around and open.
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