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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 11:44am
Did RV crash because there was something wrong with his bike?

Ralph was babbling about something possibly with the rear break even before the take-out crash. Then the contact, and the RD stomping. Just curious if anyone saw anything.

He sure did come up short.

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iudi2006 4/20/2010 8:07pm
4/20/2010 8:07pm
Yeah i also thought that maybe it was a mechanical error.
UpTiTe 4/20/2010 8:11pm
4/20/2010 8:11pm
Nope he dint come up short, the jump was to big.
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FreshTopEnd 4/20/2010 8:28pm
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UpTiTe wrote:
Nope he dint come up short, the jump was to big.
Uh, no, that was short and already going over the bars. Maybe better said that the landing was too big and the take off not big enough.


He f'ed up on section that had degraded, had no margin for error and was unforgiving.
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DanDunes818 4/20/2010 9:54pm
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I caught something Chad Reed said in the podcast that I heard things because I'm in Ryans team and that Ryan also had something going on. Leading me to believe there was something mechanical going on too.

Ryan was motioning something when he went through the mechanics area looking down to I think the right side ralph said. I don't know but it seemed weird that he'd come up so short. I watched it again and Barcia was getting over the landing easy on his 250 from the same line as RV lost it in. And many 450's used that line in their main too so it wasn't the track changing I think. I doubt will ever really know. I do still believe whether it was mechanical or not risk of surviving that lip w/any error (mechanical or otherwise) was nearly impossible.

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Mod Killer 4/20/2010 10:14pm
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ding ding ding.....the smoking gun is the possible mechanical failure.

but no mfg is gonna admit that. much to easy to pile on to dirt werx.


reedy used to complain that the tracks were too easy....now they are too hard. people forget. but its nice to see him not get thrashed here for once.
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bvm111 4/20/2010 10:24pm
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Igy wrote:
Did RV crash because there was something wrong with his bike? Ralph was babbling about something possibly with the rear break even before the take-out crash...
Did RV crash because there was something wrong with his bike?

Ralph was babbling about something possibly with the rear break even before the take-out crash. Then the contact, and the RD stomping. Just curious if anyone saw anything.

He sure did come up short.

rear break... or rear brake.... or did he break his rear brake when he cut under RD5? (cut under is code for taking out RD5!)
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worcsracer808 4/20/2010 10:28pm
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UpTiTe wrote:
Nope he dint come up short, the jump was to big.
lol
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Igy 4/21/2010 5:52am
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DanDunes818 wrote:
I caught something Chad Reed said in the podcast that I heard things because I'm in Ryans team and that Ryan also had something going on...
I caught something Chad Reed said in the podcast that I heard things because I'm in Ryans team and that Ryan also had something going on. Leading me to believe there was something mechanical going on too.

Ryan was motioning something when he went through the mechanics area looking down to I think the right side ralph said. I don't know but it seemed weird that he'd come up so short. I watched it again and Barcia was getting over the landing easy on his 250 from the same line as RV lost it in. And many 450's used that line in their main too so it wasn't the track changing I think. I doubt will ever really know. I do still believe whether it was mechanical or not risk of surviving that lip w/any error (mechanical or otherwise) was nearly impossible.
In the TV broadcast from Reeds first race back, he was looking down at his kawi too. Never heard what that was about.

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danman 4/21/2010 6:01am
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To me, it looked as though he hit a bad kicker on the jump. Even Dungey mentioned the panic rev. As far down as the front was, even with the panic rev, something kicked him pretty hard.
Was it the jump, or something else? Who know, but either way, not the way anyone wanted to see the season end.
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kardy 4/21/2010 6:17am
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I think I saw a gopher hole on the lip that kicked his rear end up.
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BobbyM 4/21/2010 7:11am
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Igy wrote:
Did RV crash because there was something wrong with his bike? Ralph was babbling about something possibly with the rear break even before the take-out crash...
Did RV crash because there was something wrong with his bike?

Ralph was babbling about something possibly with the rear break even before the take-out crash. Then the contact, and the RD stomping. Just curious if anyone saw anything.

He sure did come up short.

are you saying another "team" sabotage his brakes before the race? is that what you are saying....hmmmmm.
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lumpy790 4/21/2010 7:25am
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Didnt he case each jump in the section coming up to the bail off?
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sharkey 4/21/2010 8:17am
4/21/2010 8:17am
didnt they say that there were some bare spots on thatside of the jump down below and the face was alot worse shape. somehow he lost the drive to get over
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BobbyM 4/21/2010 8:23am
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he also went right about ten feet where he was going left and clearing it earlier in the race, ten feet, hell ten inches can make a huge difference in dirt and stuff. pick yer lines well is a huge factor in mx
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FreshTopEnd 4/21/2010 9:28am
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kardy wrote:
I think I saw a gopher hole on the lip that kicked his rear end up.
Jeff, something tells me your patience is being tried.
neverwasfastenuf 4/21/2010 9:35am
4/21/2010 9:35am
kardy wrote:
I think I saw a gopher hole on the lip that kicked his rear end up.
FreshTopEnd wrote:
Jeff, something tells me your patience is being tried.
Hmmm, Suzuki had a help wanted advertisement in the paper just last Monday that was looking for gophers, but it wasn't a full time job, just needed them for a week I think.
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DanDunes818 4/21/2010 9:41am
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kardy wrote:
I think I saw a gopher hole on the lip that kicked his rear end up.
FreshTopEnd wrote:
Jeff, something tells me your patience is being tried.
neverwasfastenuf wrote:
Hmmm, Suzuki had a help wanted advertisement in the paper just last Monday that was looking for gophers, but it wasn't a full time job, just...
Hmmm, Suzuki had a help wanted advertisement in the paper just last Monday that was looking for gophers, but it wasn't a full time job, just needed them for a week I think.
I think there may be something to this post. This is getting deep. I'm not even sure it's safe to look into this any further.
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Igy 4/21/2010 9:42am
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Igy wrote:
Did RV crash because there was something wrong with his bike? Ralph was babbling about something possibly with the rear break even before the take-out crash...
Did RV crash because there was something wrong with his bike?

Ralph was babbling about something possibly with the rear break even before the take-out crash. Then the contact, and the RD stomping. Just curious if anyone saw anything.

He sure did come up short.

BobbyM wrote:
are you saying another "team" sabotage his brakes before the race? is that what you are saying....hmmmmm.

What I'm saying is, "Where was BobbyM before the race?" Dunt... Dunt.... DAAHHH!

And I'll say this... it takes a brave man to take a bike that might have a problem (RV was looking at something), and a bike that was just used as a battering ram, and a bike that was tromped on by a competitor, and keep hucking it around a SX track at a top speed knowing that the smallest malfunction will likely result in a hospital visit.

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neverwasfastenuf 4/21/2010 9:44am
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Igy wrote:
Did RV crash because there was something wrong with his bike? Ralph was babbling about something possibly with the rear break even before the take-out crash...
Did RV crash because there was something wrong with his bike?

Ralph was babbling about something possibly with the rear break even before the take-out crash. Then the contact, and the RD stomping. Just curious if anyone saw anything.

He sure did come up short.

BobbyM wrote:
are you saying another "team" sabotage his brakes before the race? is that what you are saying....hmmmmm.
Igy wrote:
What I'm saying is, "Where was BobbyM before the race?" Dunt... Dunt.... DAAHHH! And I'll say this... it takes a brave man to take a bike...

What I'm saying is, "Where was BobbyM before the race?" Dunt... Dunt.... DAAHHH!

And I'll say this... it takes a brave man to take a bike that might have a problem (RV was looking at something), and a bike that was just used as a battering ram, and a bike that was tromped on by a competitor, and keep hucking it around a SX track at a top speed knowing that the smallest malfunction will likely result in a hospital visit.
He was kind of cruising under the radar last week. Somethings not right.
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avidchimp 4/21/2010 9:49am
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I think it is because Ryan wasn't wearing the right protection...

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nobhead 4/21/2010 9:56am
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Igy wrote:
Did RV crash because there was something wrong with his bike? Ralph was babbling about something possibly with the rear break even before the take-out crash...
Did RV crash because there was something wrong with his bike?

Ralph was babbling about something possibly with the rear break even before the take-out crash. Then the contact, and the RD stomping. Just curious if anyone saw anything.

He sure did come up short.

BobbyM wrote:
are you saying another "team" sabotage his brakes before the race? is that what you are saying....hmmmmm.
You shall now be know as Captian Conspiracy. I can't even tell if you are serious anymore.
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DownSouth 4/21/2010 10:02am
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If you notice when he leaves the first jump his rear end goes back and to the left.....back and to the left.
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nobhead 4/21/2010 10:04am
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DownSouth wrote:
If you notice when he leaves the first jump his rear end goes back and to the left.....back and to the left.
wow. very nice.
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rmpilot 4/21/2010 10:17am
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DownSouth wrote:
If you notice when he leaves the first jump his rear end goes back and to the left.....back and to the left.
there must have been a second gopher
neverwasfastenuf 4/21/2010 10:21am
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DownSouth wrote:
If you notice when he leaves the first jump his rear end goes back and to the left.....back and to the left.
rmpilot wrote:
there must have been a second gopher
The ad didn't state that they were only looking for one, might be a whole family of them.
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GuyB 4/21/2010 10:39am
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Hey gang, it was confirmed to me that there was NOT an issue with the bike.

Here's something to chew on as well...

I've heard from multiple sources that the reason why he opted to be as aggressive as he was in going by Dungey is that he was having an issue with his goggles, and that he was getting dirt inside them.
neverwasfastenuf 4/21/2010 10:41am
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GuyB wrote:
Hey gang, it was confirmed to me that there was NOT an issue with the bike. Here's something to chew on as well... I've heard from...
Hey gang, it was confirmed to me that there was NOT an issue with the bike.

Here's something to chew on as well...

I've heard from multiple sources that the reason why he opted to be as aggressive as he was in going by Dungey is that he was having an issue with his goggles, and that he was getting dirt inside them.
That seals the deal then, it was either one or more gophers and/or one or more Bobby's. Let the truth be found. I'm going with the gopher hole deal with Bobby screwing with his goggles.
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DanDunes818 4/21/2010 10:47am
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GuyB wrote:
Hey gang, it was confirmed to me that there was NOT an issue with the bike. Here's something to chew on as well... I've heard from...
Hey gang, it was confirmed to me that there was NOT an issue with the bike.

Here's something to chew on as well...

I've heard from multiple sources that the reason why he opted to be as aggressive as he was in going by Dungey is that he was having an issue with his goggles, and that he was getting dirt inside them.
neverwasfastenuf wrote:
That seals the deal then, it was either one or more gophers and/or one or more Bobby's. Let the truth be found. I'm going with the...
That seals the deal then, it was either one or more gophers and/or one or more Bobby's. Let the truth be found. I'm going with the gopher hole deal with Bobby screwing with his goggles.
I can't believe how deep this is getting. I say we call in Scooby ,Shaggy ,Thelma and the whole Mystery Machine gang.

I can hear Bobby M now. "I would of got away with this if it wasn't for you meddling kids!!"
panic revver 4/21/2010 10:49am
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GuyB wrote:
Hey gang, it was confirmed to me that there was NOT an issue with the bike. Here's something to chew on as well... I've heard from...
Hey gang, it was confirmed to me that there was NOT an issue with the bike.

Here's something to chew on as well...

I've heard from multiple sources that the reason why he opted to be as aggressive as he was in going by Dungey is that he was having an issue with his goggles, and that he was getting dirt inside them.
So if he knocked them both down he could have time to adjust them and get back up before RD did. The only problem was as he was trying to pick his bike up RD was standing on it, thus fouling up his whole plan.
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WhKnuckle 4/21/2010 11:27am
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Well, anything a team says about "no problem with the bike" should be taken with a grain of salt. It's like the times the Honda GP team pushed one of their road racers back into the pits with connecting rods sticking out the bottom and issued a press release saying the DNF was due to an "ignition problem". Yeah, the spark plugs stopped working when the pistons smashed them flat. Not saying RV crashed because something was wrong with the bike, but he was definitely looking down at the right side of the bike during the race and when he crashed, he wasn't even close to making it over the same jump he'd been clearing all day. But who knows?

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