Why dont we see great photo's like this nowadays?

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3/31/2010 4:06pm
We didn't get pics like this back then...Seems like a fair trade. The more I look at this pic the crazier it looks. That jump is...
We didn't get pics like this back then...Seems like a fair trade.




The more I look at this pic the crazier it looks. That jump is insane!!!
I would pee in my pants if I ever jump that high!
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3/31/2010 4:32pm
indy_maico wrote:
I love this Charlie Morey pic that was featured in the latest Moto Retro Illustrated 'Ride it Like a 125' Hannah on a Yamaha OW25 250...
I love this Charlie Morey pic that was featured in the latest Moto Retro Illustrated

'Ride it Like a 125'

Hannah on a Yamaha OW25 250 at Southwick in 1976

Man, anything that has to do with Southwick gets my vote! I'm just an 80's baby but man do I love that track and the history in those grains of sand!
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3/31/2010 5:00pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 9:48pm
DeCoster - Carlsbad, USGP...enough said




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3/31/2010 5:58pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 9:49pm
This is as close as I've got. Wink




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4/1/2010 7:19am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 9:49pm
I shot this just this last weekend and I didn't crop any part of it. That picture you posted was boring as hell. Sure it's close but it lacks anything exciting about it. Somebody leaning over a fence could have shot that. There is no seperation of the subject from the background. Everything is in focus from the closest rider to the folks leaning against the fences. That to me is a snapshot, not photography.





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4/1/2010 8:19am
Film does have a texture that is different than digital and sometimes I think its better even if it is not as correct. That being said I know very little about either but the digital offers a lot more options and can produce some pretyy good results even for a novice (like me).
It still comes down to luck and taking a ton of pictures.




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4/1/2010 9:12am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 9:49pm
russerbe wrote:
I shot this just this last weekend and I didn't crop any part of it. That picture you posted was boring as hell. Sure it's close...
I shot this just this last weekend and I didn't crop any part of it. That picture you posted was boring as hell. Sure it's close but it lacks anything exciting about it. Somebody leaning over a fence could have shot that. There is no seperation of the subject from the background. Everything is in focus from the closest rider to the folks leaning against the fences. That to me is a snapshot, not photography.





Well, that's a bit harsh on the opening shot. It does tell a story and convey an image. Yours is technically very good, but there's nothing unique about it to separate it from about 15,000,000 similar shots from the same angle. A good shot to sell to that rider (or his sponsor) but not a classic.


And I wouldn't judge an action shooter from 1976 until you've shot with the equipment he's shooting with. It's one thing to shoot a single rider you've set up and tracked with a modern AI Servo af system that allows you to keep focus with a minimum DOF, as opposed the start of an MX where no one really knows exactly where the action will be and you're stuck with manual focusing you've prefocused on some spot you hope someone will be. The modern picture starts to look more like a snapshot when you consider the different tools and situation.


It also shows up a difference between now and then; there's a lot more styled for commercial purposes today than editorial. There's nothing wrong with that, it just is.


Truly classic "tell a story" shots aren't that common, and easier to get lost these days. But they are around.
4/1/2010 9:24am
One thing to remember is that we do not see all the stuff that is not published and images that are published are selected by the editors for what ever their needs are at the time.

We've run a couple of photo auctions for MX for Children where all the great shooters have been invited to submit images. Paul Buckley, Simon Cudby, Andrew Fredrickson, Steve Giberson, Trevor Hawk, Frank Hoppen, Jeff Kardas, Fran Kuhn, Roddy MacLeod, Geoff Meyer, Chip Morton, Plons and Michael Stusiak have contributed some really great images.

From my perspective, when I shoot a race, which is averaging about 1 a year now, I always try to look for something different. Some people like different while others do not...different for me means trying to infuse images with a human pespective. Which is why I do not focus (no pun intended) on whips or scrubs....
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4/1/2010 9:28am
What makes a good, great photo/image is in the eye of the beholder.

Personally, I don't understand why the OP thinks that shot is something to judge the new photos and photographers work by and really don't get the statement "lack of composition, artistic skills to make a great image".

Besides, there is only so much you can do with the avg. mx rider, which is the focus of most photographers. The pro's have more to work with with the pro riders, but still, there are only so many different angles you can shoot during a race and most probably have been done quite often.

Now if the photo session is set up, then different story.

The photo isn't a "great image" in my eyes. To me, it's not anything special but old and close up.

If he just wants some that are close to the action, there are plenty out there.
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4/1/2010 9:34am
Is this close enough?

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4/1/2010 10:05am
robkinuk wrote:
[IMG]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii59/robkinuk/26474_382885645908_167209720908_368.jpg[/IMG] Why don't we get great photo's like this nowadays? You almost feel like your stood in the middle of the track. I dont know wether...


Why don't we get great photo's like this nowadays? You almost feel like your stood in the middle of the track.
I dont know wether it's digital camera's, those massive lens but todays photographers seem to be lacking in the
composition, artistic skills to make a great image.
Is it because they are no longer allowed into certain areas around the track?

If you think I'm wrong, lets see the modern day Gianatsis, Morey's, Boullands and your work!

No, that sucks, get closer!


"Like this?"


No, your comp and art skills seem to be lacking.

"stay right there while I pick up this rock and huck it all the way across the pond at your stupid ass."

4/1/2010 10:48am
Adam934MX wrote:
This is as close as I've got. ;) [img]http://www.vitalmx.com/images/community_photos/2033/98322410_1262474743.jpg?1262474745[/img] [embed] [/embed]
This is as close as I've got. Wink




This one has my vote.

You got balls dude
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4/1/2010 10:53am
ab5772 wrote:
Is this close enough? [img]http://www.motonews.com/images/fbfiles/images/daytona_start-690bc589b2fd56db1c8fecd3601dceb6.jpg[/img]
Is this close enough?

Thats gonna sting!

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